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Post by stealthamo on Jun 25, 2017 21:12:27 GMT -5
I'm not too familiar, but he's only a thing because his dad is a really obnoxious promoter, right? I think you're talking about Lonzo, the kid that just got drafted. And yeah, if it weren't for LaVar (his dad) then there wouldn't have been nearly as much talk about him. And whether you love or hate LaVar, I gotta admit that I wouldn't know nearly as much about Lonzo if it weren't for him, so the dude's doing his job. Also, Lonzo was pretty hilarious in this Foot Locker ad:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 21:14:22 GMT -5
LaVar's a hell of a promo and dude's hilarious. Just watch these highlights.
I can't tell you the amount of times I was laughing through this.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 25, 2017 21:36:36 GMT -5
I actually think WWE has way more mainstream presence than we give them credit for. Not anywhere near boom period levels obviously, but between reality shows, movie roles and appearances on other shows up and down the dial, most WWE talents aren't exactly anonymous nobodies.
Issue is, the mainstream is so damn fragmented these days as fanbases become increasingly insular, that there are increasingly fewer and fewer faces that EVERYONE around the world knows who they are and what they're famous for.
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Post by somsta on Jun 25, 2017 21:45:02 GMT -5
I'm a huge Lakers fan, so I listen to a lot of LA sports radio. For weeks they've been comparing Lavar to WWE stars. I've heard him called the Ric Flair, the Bobby Heenan, and the Paul Heyman of the NBA, among others.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Jun 25, 2017 22:12:56 GMT -5
Well its a good thing WWE gives most of a shit about its american audience over secondary markets. And good luck on him going away. If his son takes off, he'll be around for a long time. (Youtube fame > NBA Star. God, how ridiculous are we wrestling fans sometimes. Geeeeeeez.) Again, unless your name is Lebron, nobody outside of America gives a shit about the NBA. That's an airball if I've ever seen one. A ton of people care about basketball around the globe, but it must have not gotten to that rock you live under yet.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jun 25, 2017 23:35:38 GMT -5
LaVar's a hell of a promo and dude's hilarious. Just watch these highlights. I can't tell you the amount of times I was laughing through this. I had never seen him before now, but I think he's my favorite person on the planet now. Everyone being negative in this thread better prepare for a pancake meal.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on Jun 25, 2017 23:41:12 GMT -5
It's because the people in charge of WWE try to get celebrities who are 'with it' because they are flashes in the pan and soon thereafter 'without it'. They are memes in human form. They are Bart Simpson after people stopped caring about "I didn't do it" (which in itself is already an incredibly dated reference). By association, this fetish for celebrities who really don't give a shit about wrestling makes WWE even look more corny, out of date, and out of touch because the company is forever behind on cultural trends, and can only coast in the wake of the impact that B-and-C list celebrities have had on popular culture. For every Arnold Schwarzenegger-as-WWF-champion or Barack Obama pre-tape segment, there are dozens of others that feature the Nic Turturros and Snookis of the world. Right, but look at it this way - booking a celebrity is not something done with the long term in mind. Do you think anyone cares about Kevin Federline or that guy from the Burger King ads in 2017? No. But they were famous at the time they were on TV, and that's what mattered. It got them press at the time and made people watching go "hey, that's that one guy I know from that one thing". I mean freaking Snooki had a match at Wrestlemania and nobody gives a shit about her now, but at the time, Jersey Shore was popular. LaVar is exactly that right now. He's the hot thing on Twitter and he's discussed almost daily on basketball shows. Right now he's culturally relevant and most people know his name. Maybe he will fizzle out in time, and maybe people might not care about him this time next year, but right now, that doesn't matter, because it isn't next year, it's right now, and right now, LaVar is popular and well covered in the media. I see nothing wrong with WWE capitalising on someone who's popular right now. Hell, the complaint I usually see is that WWE is behind on what's popular and can't keep up with modern media. Granted, WWE could look worse. Like it did a couple of years ago when it reached out to another athlete who was making a lot of news. www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/02/wwe-awkwardly-invites-michael-sam-to-be-on-raw/?utm_term=.fc5bcdaf23aaWhich garnered a lot of the same responses that Ball, if he in fact shows, is getting right now. officialfan.proboards.com/thread/507420/michael-sam-invited-raw
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 23:42:45 GMT -5
LaVar's a hell of a promo and dude's hilarious. Just watch these highlights. I can't tell you the amount of times I was laughing through this. I had never seen him before now, but I think he's my favorite person on the planet now. Everyone being negative in this thread better prepare for a pancake meal. With the strawberries on em!
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Post by somsta on Jun 25, 2017 23:43:09 GMT -5
I know LaVar's persona is a natural heel, but I doubt he wants to get booed in LA, considering his son is being announted the new face of the Lakers.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 26, 2017 0:00:24 GMT -5
I hope people who think LeVar Ball isn't relevant realize we're nearing an 8 Page Discussion on the forum about him, good or bad, it's what LeVar wants boys and you're provin his own points
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 26, 2017 0:05:26 GMT -5
LaVar's a hell of a promo and dude's hilarious. Just watch these highlights. I can't tell you the amount of times I was laughing through this. Dude is honestly on some other shit. It really makes you realize how lame and corny the Titus stuff is when you watch the real deal.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on Jun 26, 2017 0:19:23 GMT -5
I hope people who think LeVar Ball isn't relevant realize we're nearing an 8 Page Discussion on the forum about him, good or bad, it's what LeVar wants boys and you're provin his own points You shouldn't confuse the quantity of discussion for the quality or meaningfulness of the subject being discussed. Threads for episodes of Raw generate over 100 pages, but plenty of people will say, week after week, that the show is awful.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 26, 2017 0:57:55 GMT -5
I hope people who think LeVar Ball isn't relevant realize we're nearing an 8 Page Discussion on the forum about him, good or bad, it's what LeVar wants boys and you're provin his own points You shouldn't confuse the quantity of discussion for the quality or meaningfulness of the subject being discussed. Threads for episodes of Raw generate over 100 pages, but plenty of people will say, week after week, that the show is awful. You whiffed on my point entirely. LeVar Ball don't care if you know him and don't care if you hate him. His whole personality is about hyping up his brand, and talking about it in whatever light is exactly what he wants.
You can shit on him all you want, you're talking about him and getting into in depth discussions about him, it is exactly what he wants.
Also comparing the RAW Threads isn't that great considering it's a three hour show that is constantly going and people are reacting to what they're seeing. This is one general discussion about one entity, and usually if a thread breaks near 10 Pages that isn't a show/spoilers thread it's something. Good or bad like I said, and in LeVar's case, he don't care, he's doin' him and his brand and people are talking.
He's essentially the Roman Reigns WWE seems to be trying to build up, but they f***ing suck at writing, LeVar don't need a script, he just does him, and it works. Kinda one of the reasons people say WWE sucks a lot lately. They constantly try and either copy mainstream stuff for certain gimmicks, and abysmally fail, or a guy like LeVar Ball, a normal dude, does a better job at being a gimmick and a promo than the guys they're trying to build as their top sellers for a living.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 26, 2017 4:06:23 GMT -5
I actually think WWE has way more mainstream presence than we give them credit for. Not anywhere near boom period levels obviously, but between reality shows, movie roles and appearances on other shows up and down the dial, most WWE talents aren't exactly anonymous nobodies. Issue is, the mainstream is so damn fragmented these days as fanbases become increasingly insular, that there are increasingly fewer and fewer faces that EVERYONE around the world knows who they are and what they're famous for. It's this weird paradigm with professional wrestling in general, not just WWE, that is both in the mainstream and not . On one hand, WrestleMania is probably at a lower mainstream status than it was in the 80s (mostly due to it not being as everywhere but also because of the Network making PPV promotion less nessesary) but on the other hand, there are more places that cover pro wrestling in general and do articles about it (Rolling Stone with Ziggler and Princess Kimberlee when she won the CHIKARA Grand Championship, every website having Raw reports etc). I mean, WrestleCircus was the first indie to get a streaming deal with Twitch and Lucha Underground is on Netflix (in most places). Those aren't minor things considering the amount of people that use both. As a less minor note, Kenny King's on the latest season of The Batchelorette. Bullet Club's in Tekken, which would like if The Shield ended up in Mortal Kombat. We can argue about whether WWE's more watched than ever before or whether those are just old fans (which I argue against because it's a weird coincidence that sales would go up across the board for almost every major indie if all of them were just hardcore fans that weren't aware of their local indie) until the cows come home but things aren't that cold. If anything, pro wrestling's creeping up a bit in the mainstream overall. Heck, I was about to end it with "We're not exactly going to see someone from the main roster host SNL or anything but still" until I remembered John Cena just hosted SNL not long ago.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jun 26, 2017 8:47:04 GMT -5
LaVar's a hell of a promo and dude's hilarious. Just watch these highlights. I can't tell you the amount of times I was laughing through this. This is incredible. Am I allowed to wear Big Baller Brand if I'm not a big baller and I'm actually dead broke? Because i feel like that's all I ever want to wear from now on.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2017 8:58:34 GMT -5
Again, unless your name is Lebron, nobody outside of America gives a shit about the NBA. That's an airball if I've ever seen one. A ton of people care about basketball around the globe, but it must have not gotten to that rock you live under yet. Not really , not even Lebron is that much of a talk. People know NBA and play their games,but the people? They are more focused on their own countries's sport stars Now lets avoid the snappy juvenile shots and attitudes everyone.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 26, 2017 9:04:28 GMT -5
That's an airball if I've ever seen one. A ton of people care about basketball around the globe, but it must have not gotten to that rock you live under yet. Not really , not even Lebron is that much of a talk. People know NBA and play their games,but the people? They are more focused on their own countries's sport stars Now lets avoid the snappy juvenile shots and attitudes everyone. The NBA outside of America is super popular, I think people are underestimating that.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2017 9:05:27 GMT -5
Not really , not even Lebron is that much of a talk. People know NBA and play their games,but the people? They are more focused on their own countries's sport stars Now lets avoid the snappy juvenile shots and attitudes everyone. The NBA outside of America is super popular, I think people are underestimating that. People enjoy their games,they don't care about the players or team(as much) basically
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 26, 2017 9:09:58 GMT -5
The NBA outside of America is super popular, I think people are underestimating that. People enjoy their games,they don't care about the players or team(as much) basically Doesnt even matter because this would be for the American audience. Their home base and most important audience period.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 26, 2017 9:15:27 GMT -5
The NBA outside of America is super popular, I think people are underestimating that. People enjoy their games,they don't care about the players or team(as much) basically In my home country the Philippines, the NBA players are treated like legends and they know all the teams and such, it might not be that way in Europe but in South America and Asia the NBA is gaining a lot of steam in terms of worldwide exposure. And they do for the most part care about the teams and players
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