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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 1, 2017 0:22:11 GMT -5
I don't know about Vance Joseph being gone, it all depends on what Elway wants to do. Yeah sounds obvious but what I am getting at is he refused to look at the Broncos as rebuilding after last season, just "reloading", so does he admit his failures as GM and start over or what? Does he deal a Shane Ray or Bradley Roby or CJ Anderson for a pick or a middle of the road vet QB that mentors ANOTHER draft pick? Or does he look to grab an offensive lineman or two and take one more run at it with this defense? To me, between McCoy's offense being too rigid for the team and the line being absolute garbage again, It is hard for me to see this as a team that needs rebuilding. It needs retooling for sure, why Von is dropping back into coverage so much and not rushing more, we need at least one tackle, and a TE would be nice but I think we could get by with a few small changes. Now all that said, we need a long term solution at QB and I am not sold on the current staff. VJ is raved about by the players but is he the right fit? The team seems to be getting away with way too much, too much letting the boys be boys. Woods at DC seems a failure but I have a hard time pinning the issues on him when the offense has sucked so so so badly. McCoy is gone and I like Musgrave but will he be here next year, if so what does this mean for Paxton, Trevor and Brock? Paxton is a first round pick but has never really gotten a chance so tossing that away just makes zero sense. The team is a crazed mess for sure but I just don't know that taking a wrecking ball to it is the answer, yet. I guess at the end of the day, I expect major changes on the offense, probably a trade for a veteran OL and probably drafting two or three as well. Oh and Brock Olivo will be out on his ass. Elway fired a coach the day after hosting a divisional round playoff game. He's not afraid to make the right call and take a gamble instead of playing it safe. After all, doing just that got him a third Super Bowl ring.
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Post by Error on Dec 1, 2017 0:51:16 GMT -5
I don't know about Vance Joseph being gone, it all depends on what Elway wants to do. Yeah sounds obvious but what I am getting at is he refused to look at the Broncos as rebuilding after last season, just "reloading", so does he admit his failures as GM and start over or what? Does he deal a Shane Ray or Bradley Roby or CJ Anderson for a pick or a middle of the road vet QB that mentors ANOTHER draft pick? Or does he look to grab an offensive lineman or two and take one more run at it with this defense? To me, between McCoy's offense being too rigid for the team and the line being absolute garbage again, It is hard for me to see this as a team that needs rebuilding. It needs retooling for sure, why Von is dropping back into coverage so much and not rushing more, we need at least one tackle, and a TE would be nice but I think we could get by with a few small changes. Now all that said, we need a long term solution at QB and I am not sold on the current staff. VJ is raved about by the players but is he the right fit? The team seems to be getting away with way too much, too much letting the boys be boys. Woods at DC seems a failure but I have a hard time pinning the issues on him when the offense has sucked so so so badly. McCoy is gone and I like Musgrave but will he be here next year, if so what does this mean for Paxton, Trevor and Brock? Paxton is a first round pick but has never really gotten a chance so tossing that away just makes zero sense. The team is a crazed mess for sure but I just don't know that taking a wrecking ball to it is the answer, yet. I guess at the end of the day, I expect major changes on the offense, probably a trade for a veteran OL and probably drafting two or three as well. Oh and Brock Olivo will be out on his ass. Elway fired a coach the day after hosting a divisional round playoff game. He's not afraid to make the right call and take a gamble instead of playing it safe. After all, doing just that got him a third Super Bowl ring. There is a difference between firing a guy that has failed 3 years running with a win now team and a guy that is a year in with one just expected to compete. I don't see upending the coaching staff for the 4th time in 5 years as right way to go and I seriously doubt Elway does too. Yeah to the fanbase it can look good but it screams of impatience and incompetence as well. There is a right time for it all, I don't know it, I just have to hope Elway does.
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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 1, 2017 2:24:35 GMT -5
Elway fired a coach the day after hosting a divisional round playoff game. He's not afraid to make the right call and take a gamble instead of playing it safe. After all, doing just that got him a third Super Bowl ring. There is a difference between firing a guy that has failed 3 years running with a win now team and a guy that is a year in with one just expected to compete. I don't see upending the coaching staff for the 4th time in 5 years as right way to go and I seriously doubt Elway does too. Yeah to the fanbase it can look good but it screams of impatience and incompetence as well. There is a right time for it all, I don't know it, I just have to hope Elway does. Fox never let the team just give up like they have. I mean this is a top five defense playing like a bottom five defense.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 1, 2017 3:19:38 GMT -5
Interestingly, Chuck Pagano has done a much better job coaching this year than he has in any of their playoff runs. Let me explain:
First, this was the first season where the Colts appeared to be ready for almost all of their games. In years past the Colts usually fell behind because the other team was better prepared. This year they have been competitive in all but one game through the third quarter. Unfortunately, the game is played for 4 quarters and the Colts lack of depth leads to the defense wearing out and shitting the bed in the fourth quarter and giving up the lead and the game.
Let’s not forget that the Colts have also been chewed up with injuries. Four offensive starters (including Luck), 4 defensive starters ( not including Vintage Davis), and at least 3 other contributors went on the IR or started the season ona long term PUP list. It’s pretty hard to win like that.
Finally, it is worth noting that the Colts are still busting their asses and no one is going into business for themselves. Many losing teams cannot say that. It might get him a reprieve, and that would be a shame if it costs them a chance at Harbaugh.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 1, 2017 9:30:42 GMT -5
Colts have also had a pretty tough schedule this season too. Jacoby Brissett has actually been pretty solid while not being asked to so much.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 2, 2017 13:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 3, 2017 9:22:59 GMT -5
Ben McAdoo could be future endevored as early as tomorrow.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 3, 2017 12:06:09 GMT -5
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 3, 2017 18:21:51 GMT -5
judging by the 7-10 score at the end of the 3rd, McAdoo is going to be wished the best in his future endeavors tomorrow morning.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 3, 2017 20:13:06 GMT -5
Safe to say that Gronk has to be gone for a game or 2
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Post by Sam Punk on Dec 3, 2017 20:43:08 GMT -5
Safe to say that Gronk has to be gone for a game or 2 No doubt. That was dirty.
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 3, 2017 20:50:23 GMT -5
and mcAdoo's fate is sealed, he lost the game and shall probably be sent to the Phantom Zone, the Giants' fans suffering will be short, McAdoo's... Forever, I made a Supergirl (1984) refrence
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 4, 2017 7:12:11 GMT -5
Safe to say that Gronk has to be gone for a game or 2 He'll probably get a game and given that he owned up right away postgame and has absolutely no history of stuff like that before, a game is what he *should* get.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 4, 2017 8:03:24 GMT -5
Looked like White was already knocked stupid before Gronk gave him the cheap roaring elbow.
I think Gronk gets a game, probably fair.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 4, 2017 8:33:17 GMT -5
and mcAdoo's fate is sealed, he lost the game and shall probably be sent to the Phantom Zone, the Giants' fans suffering will be short, McAdoo's... Forever, I made a Supergirl (1984) refrence I really don't want to alter your Supergirl reference because I loved that movie. But I feel like "Phantom Zone" needs to be replaced with something much darker and more hellish, The Browns.
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Post by BRV on Dec 4, 2017 11:27:08 GMT -5
Safe to say that Gronk has to be gone for a game or 2 He'll probably get a game and given that he owned up right away postgame and has absolutely no history of stuff like that before, a game is what he *should* get. I'll begrudgingly accept it if it's one game. It was a dirty, cheap, unnecessary hit that could have led to a serious injury. But no more than one game. Rob Gronkowski has no prior record, he's got a clean sheet on and off the field, and he's never shown any inklings to being a cheap shot artist.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 4, 2017 11:31:27 GMT -5
He'll probably get a game and given that he owned up right away postgame and has absolutely no history of stuff like that before, a game is what he *should* get. I'll begrudgingly accept it if it's one game. It was a dirty, cheap, unnecessary hit that could have led to a serious injury. But no more than one game. Rob Gronkowski has no prior record, he's got a clean sheet on and off the field, and he's never shown any inklings to being a cheap shot artist. When you take into consideration guys like Suh, Alonzo and Burfict seem to get off generally scot free despite being repeat offenders and being guilty of actions worse than Gronkowski, anything more than a game, I'd appeal the f*** out of
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 11:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 4, 2017 11:35:14 GMT -5
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Post by Error on Dec 4, 2017 11:46:59 GMT -5
Reese is out in NY as well
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