Original Cena-Nakamura Finish

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

[The Rick Jericho]

Aug 3, 2017 7:21:29 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

Let's hope Cena vetoed it because he respects Shinsuke and wanted to put him over clean.

[HMARK Center]

Aug 3, 2017 7:23:11 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Aug 3, 2017 7:21:29 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

Let's hope Cena vetoed it because he respects Shinsuke and wanted to put him over clean.

Seriously: while by all accounts it was a good match, it was bad enough to limit what they could do by putting it on free TV given the marquee names attached, it would've been far worse if they couldn't even be bothered with a clean finish.

Having Nakamura win cleanly gives him an avenue to become SD's top star, if they choose to book him that way. A tainted win would have people saying "Cena will get #17 soon enough."

[Final Countdown Jones]

That would have been dumb as f***

[Dub H]

While having Corbin consider Nakamura the bigger threat is still nice to put Nakmura over,this was much better

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

It was definitely changed late, like even the original writeup for the Mahal v Nakamura title match referenced the interference like it had actually happened.

[Jokaine]

Aug 3, 2017 7:21:29 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

This is a story that makes me believe people really do tell Meltzer 10 ideas that get briefly discussed for a possible angle or match and he reports on the worst one and tells it in such a way that it was originally THE finish but got switched.

In reality it may have never gotten beyond somebody at the table saying, "Hey, how about..." It's a terrible idea, however so people will give it attention, and it's technically based in truth so Meltzer maintains his credibility and didn't create his own news. Win-win for him.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Aug 3, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -5 Jokaine said:

Aug 3, 2017 7:21:29 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

This is a story that makes me believe people really do tell Meltzer 10 ideas that get briefly discussed for a possible angle or match and he reports on the worst one and tells it in such a way that it was originally THE finish but got switched.

In reality it may have never gotten beyond somebody at the table saying, "Hey, how about..." It's a terrible idea, however so people will give it attention, and it's technically based in truth so Meltzer maintains his credibility and didn't create his own news. Win-win for him.

No, it was definitely planned to have Corbin involved.

As EoE stated the original Mahal vs. Nakamura write up mentioned the phantom run in.

[Swamp Trout]

Naaaah a clean finish always looks better and puts the winner way over in such a decisive/important match

[HMARK Center]

Aug 3, 2017 8:23:47 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Aug 3, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -5 Jokaine said:

This is a story that makes me believe people really do tell Meltzer 10 ideas that get briefly discussed for a possible angle or match and he reports on the worst one and tells it in such a way that it was originally THE finish but got switched.

In reality it may have never gotten beyond somebody at the table saying, "Hey, how about..." It's a terrible idea, however so people will give it attention, and it's technically based in truth so Meltzer maintains his credibility and didn't create his own news. Win-win for him.

No, it was definitely planned to have Corbin involved.

As EoE stated the original Mahal vs. Nakamura write up mentioned the phantom run in.

Yeah, not going to say Meltzer is automatic gospel, journalists are often subject to what they can get from their sources, but Big Dave's been at this a long time, he mostly knows what he's talking about on stuff like this.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

There was a match? All I remember is 200 f***ing commercials.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

That would have been f***ing horrible. I'm glad at this stage of his career Cena realizes he doesn't need this bullshit protection because it's ruined so many people he's fought before him, and we're already seeing it repeat with Roman.

Nakamura getting a fluke win because of Corbin is also a really confusing way for him to win since he's supposed to be an uber face. You make him look really bad that he needed help to win. So really happy this shit didn't happen...

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Aug 3, 2017 7:36:15 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

That would have been dumb as f***

Jinder is the champion and we just had the first ever meeting of Nakamura and John Cena on free TV.

I think we're well past dumb as f*** and well into 'why does it hurt when I touch the fire?'

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Aug 3, 2017 7:23:11 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Aug 3, 2017 7:21:29 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Meltzer said on Observer Radio today that the original finish for the Cena-Nakamura match was Sninsuke getting the win following Corbin accidentally taking out Cena while trying to cost Nakamura the match. Dave didn't know why the change was made.

Let's hope Cena vetoed it because he respects Shinsuke and wanted to put him over clean.

Serious question: Why do you hope this is the case?

[Friday Night SmackOwn]

Aug 3, 2017 8:23:47 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Aug 3, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -5 Jokaine said:

This is a story that makes me believe people really do tell Meltzer 10 ideas that get briefly discussed for a possible angle or match and he reports on the worst one and tells it in such a way that it was originally THE finish but got switched.

In reality it may have never gotten beyond somebody at the table saying, "Hey, how about..." It's a terrible idea, however so people will give it attention, and it's technically based in truth so Meltzer maintains his credibility and didn't create his own news. Win-win for him.

No, it was definitely planned to have Corbin involved.

As EoE stated the original Mahal vs. Nakamura write up mentioned the phantom run in.

Probably also why they decided to do the Network overrun angle with Corbin attacking Nakamura before Cena fought him off to have another way to set up the Summerslam match.

[Perd]

Corbin actually botched this. He was supposed to do the run in, but caught a glimpse of himself in a mirror and fell asleep.

[The Rick Jericho]

Aug 3, 2017 18:45:07 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Aug 3, 2017 7:23:11 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Let's hope Cena vetoed it because he respects Shinsuke and wanted to put him over clean.

Serious question: Why do you hope this is the case?

If Cena is going away after Summerslam, why not put over someone clean as a sheet. Helps the product.

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Aug 5, 2017 8:50:00 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Aug 3, 2017 18:45:07 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Serious question: Why do you hope this is the case?

If Cena is going away after Summerslam, why not put over someone clean as a sheet. Helps the product.

What I'm asking is why does it matter if Cena wanted to do it or was told to? Maybe he doesn't respect Nakamura at all. Either way the result is the same.

[-Lithium-]

Aug 5, 2017 13:00:46 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Aug 5, 2017 8:50:00 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

If Cena is going away after Summerslam, why not put over someone clean as a sheet. Helps the product.

What I'm asking is why does it matter if Cena wanted to do it or was told to? Maybe he doesn't respect Nakamura at all. Either way the result is the same.

You don't want to believe that finally the face of the company realized than losing a fake match and helping someone is better than winning a fake match and hurting them? When do we ever have someone come along with that mindset in a late stage of his career? You want him to be like Hogan and just gobble people up for no reason other than the fact that he'd rather make one million and win than make five and lose?

But whats so cool about this is that Cena doesn't even really have anything to gain by losing. Forget losing and making five, hes supposedly losing and making the same amount. Who wouldn't want to believe that's how hes thinking?