Jeff Jarrett's TNA legacy

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

In his podcast, Bruce Prichard discussed Jarrett's tenure in the wwe and it got me thinking that there's a chance he won't return to tna/gfw after the whole Triplemania debacle.

Here's a link of what happened youtu.be/R45Uwtx_28w

I started thinking about his whole run in tna. The period from 2002 until 2006. That reign of terror would make Triple H blush. I never got why he put himself as champion. Surely Raven and Monty Brown were a better choice or even AJ Styles.

Then right after BFG 2006 he stepped down as the perennial main eventer to deal with his late wife Jill's bout with cancer. For the most part Jeff stayed out of the spotlight until his relationship with Karen became public and Dixie pretty much fired him.

Some time later Jeff decided to leave and form GFW were he proclaimed that a boom was coming, I'm still waiting for it. Those gfw shows were ran in what appeared to be empty arenas.

I think that Jeff's legacy in tna is that of being delusional. Sure tna has been around for 15 years but at what cost? Of all those 15 years they were profitable for only one perhaps.

[Deleted]

I've been a Jeff Jarrett mark since I started watching wrestling in 2000. I don't know what it was about him I liked but I just did. I liked him all the way through WCW and all the way through TNA.

Then he got roped into a ponzi scheme and I just cannot look at him the same way ever.

His legacy to me is now gold bars.

Congratulations, Jeff!

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Sept 16, 2017 0:51:16 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

In his podcast, Bruce Prichard discussed Jarrett's tenure in the wwe and it got me thinking that there's a chance he won't return to tna/gfw after the whole Triplemania debacle.

Here's a link of what happened youtu.be/R45Uwtx_28w

I started thinking about his whole run in tna. The period from 2002 until 2006. That reign of terror would make Triple H blush. I never got why he put himself as champion. Surely Raven and Monty Brown were a better choice or even AJ Styles.

Then right after BFG 2006 he stepped down as the perennial main eventer to deal with his late wife Jill's bout with cancer. For the most part Jeff stayed out of the spotlight until his relationship with Karen became public and Dixie pretty much fired him.

Some time later Jeff decided to leave and form GFW were he proclaimed that a boom was coming, I'm still waiting for it. Those gfw shows were ran in what appeared to be empty arenas.

I think that Jeff's legacy in tna is that of being delusional. Sure tna has been around for 15 years but at what cost? Of all those 15 years they were profitable for only one perhaps.

I'm curious what would be the profitable year?

I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd figure they were either profitable for at least a bit longer than that or never profitable at all. I'm just guessing here, but if I could point to a stretch of time for TNA to be profitable I would think it would be 2006-2008. They had the Spike deal, but at the same time it was before they really went nuts with signing former WWE talent. I'd think 2006 would probably be the most profitable.

[Final Countdown Jones]

It's hard not to see Jeff's TNA legacy being that of a guy who booked himself to be on top as hard as he possibly could, and when he was stopped personal reasons and then conniving company politics, he bided his time until he could break away and start another vanity promotion for himself all over again, where as the Amped thread and Dragonfly's recaps prove, the whole thing is just Jarrett puffing himself up as the besterest ever. With him supposed to have faced Alberto at Bound for Glory I have no doubt in my mind he would have booked himself to the top again eventually.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Sept 16, 2017 9:16:50 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Sept 16, 2017 0:51:16 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

In his podcast, Bruce Prichard discussed Jarrett's tenure in the wwe and it got me thinking that there's a chance he won't return to tna/gfw after the whole Triplemania debacle.

Here's a link of what happened youtu.be/R45Uwtx_28w

I started thinking about his whole run in tna. The period from 2002 until 2006. That reign of terror would make Triple H blush. I never got why he put himself as champion. Surely Raven and Monty Brown were a better choice or even AJ Styles.

Then right after BFG 2006 he stepped down as the perennial main eventer to deal with his late wife Jill's bout with cancer. For the most part Jeff stayed out of the spotlight until his relationship with Karen became public and Dixie pretty much fired him.

Some time later Jeff decided to leave and form GFW were he proclaimed that a boom was coming, I'm still waiting for it. Those gfw shows were ran in what appeared to be empty arenas.

I think that Jeff's legacy in tna is that of being delusional. Sure tna has been around for 15 years but at what cost? Of all those 15 years they were profitable for only one perhaps.

I'm curious what would be the profitable year?

I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd figure they were either profitable for at least a bit longer than that or never profitable at all. I'm just guessing here, but if I could point to a stretch of time for TNA to be profitable I would think it would be 2006-2008. They had the Spike deal, but at the same time it was before they really went nuts with signing former WWE talent. I'd think 2006 would probably be the most profitable.

I think 2006 was the only year they were profitable, in my opinion signing Kurt Angle never balanced their checkbooks again.

I was listening to the tvtrax YouTube channel and after hearing some of the wrestling shows, the only good thing they could say about Jeff was his commitment. Like the guy never quits despite failing over and over again. But at some point that is a bad thing because it doesn't matter how much you keep trying you won't be able to recoup the losses.

Regarding the amped recaps yeah it was just a stupid vehicle for Jarrett. He's not interested in making money he just wants to put himself on top.

[Acrtress Flavor Saver]

Um, creating it?

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Really I'd say everything with TNA has pretty much buried how Jarrett's career will be perceived down the line. If after WCW went under he'd just stuck to indies and eventually settled into retirement as an agent somewhere or something, he'd probably be remembered as a solid midcarder who had some good moments over the years and did the best he could with being pushed out of his depth in the dying days of WCW, might've even eventually made it into the WWE Hall of Fame as a kind of filler name since Vince patches things up with everybody eventually.

With TNA and GFW, though? I think he's pretty much doomed to be perceived as someone who was only ever any good as a midcarder but was hopelessly obsessed with the idea of being a headliner to the point he built two different companies to facilitate it, all while showing he doesn't have the slightest bit of business sense or booking ability.

[wankah]

During his reign of terror there was enough of other enticing stuff happening to keep you interested. Though having said that, defeating Raven while handcuffed and surviving the ECW alumni beatdown along the way was f***ing pathetic.

The formula for TNA seemed to be to take the good stuff of WCW and mix it with some sorta more modern approach, along some old time southern vibe added to it. Obviously that changed drastically along the way, but when that shit really started to happen, it had very little to do with Jarrett anymore as there were other idiots calling the shots.

He is definitely way too high on himself and things like having other people put him over even as a promoter is really petty bullshit, but I also think his vision regarding the product overall isn't as bad as some claim it to be. It's just the case of turning that vision to concrete where he lacks because of his stubborness and nowadays also the lack of resources.

But yeah, his TNA legacy? Cutting off Toby Keith at the first ever PPV was the best thing he ever did and then there's all kinds of other shit competing for the worst thing he did spot. His GFW legacy is that he got to join the Bullet Club and sold gold bars.

He also seems to get ousted a lot.

[cabbageboy]

Jarrett's main problem is that he desperately wants to be a territory headliner like his dad or Lawler were in Memphis. That's the sad reality of Jarrett to me. If the WWF national expansion had never happened and cable TV never became a reality then Jerry Jarrett could have turned over the reigns to Jeff and he could have kept Memphis going and likely been a well liked local babyface star. That's his fatal flaw I think. He wants to pretend it's 1972 and he can run his own territory and be the top star, but do it on some national level.

I think Jarrett's lasting legacy is being someone that spent 80% of his career being miscast. He's simply not a good heel, yet every promotion featured him as either a wimpy heel, or a "too big for his britches" type heel, and even he booked himself in TNA like a poor man's HHH. The sad thing is that Jarrett WAS a good wrestler in Memphis, equally adept at mixing it up in a technical match or a wild hardcore brawl with the Moondogs.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Sept 17, 2017 8:54:41 GMT -5 wankah said:

During his reign of terror there was enough of other enticing stuff happening to keep you interested. Though having said that, defeating Raven while handcuffed and surviving the ECW alumni beatdown along the way was f***ing pathetic.

The formula for TNA seemed to be to take the good stuff of WCW and mix it with some sorta more modern approach, along some old time southern vibe added to it. Obviously that changed drastically along the way, but when that shit really started to happen, it had very little to do with Jarrett anymore as there were other idiots calling the shots.

He is definitely way too high on himself and things like having other people put him over even as a promoter is really petty bullshit, but I also think his vision regarding the product overall isn't as bad as some claim it to be. It's just the case of turning that vision to concrete where he lacks because of his stubborness and nowadays also the lack of resources.

But yeah, his TNA legacy? Cutting off Toby Keith at the first ever PPV was the best thing he ever did and then there's all kinds of other shit competing for the worst thing he did spot. His GFW legacy is that he got to join the Bullet Club and sold gold bars.

He also seems to get ousted a lot.

That match he had with Raven drew their biggest house at the Nashville Fairgrounds. After Jeff decided to book himself as superman, he killed that town.

That match never made sense Jeff just wanted to be the man.

[Push R Truth]

Meh on his best days, dumpster fire on the rest.

[chrom]

Jarrett has what I'd call Spotlight lust. Meaning if he's not in the spotlight than no one's going to be in it. Same with Flair, Hogan, Michaels, HHH and many others

[Hanky McCranky Jr.]

He was second-rate everything. He tried to make TNA into a second-rate WCW and later WWE. He was a career midcarder who booked himself as world champion and treated TNA like a vanity promotion more than a legitimate business. Even his heel persona in TNA was a second-rate Triple H.

[King Devitt: What Plants Crave]

Jeff Jarrett's legacy:

Buy into company.
Insecure.
Make self champion.
Insecure.
Make self champion a bunch more times.
Much Insecure.
Run company into the ground.
Because Insecure.
Get fired from company.
Create new company.
Still Insecure.
Gold Bars.
Drunk in Mexico.
The Jeff Jarrett Story.
The End.

[Deleted]

Jeff Jarrett's superman push where he was beating everyone and overcoming all manner of odds for non-stop title reigns was some of the funniest stuff that I've ever seen.

Dude is a mid-carder no matter how much he or any of his self-booked promotions try to convince us otherwise.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Sept 17, 2017 19:13:57 GMT -5 @akeemresurrection said:

Jeff Jarrett's superman push where he was beating everyone and overcoming all manner of odds for non-stop title reigns was some of the funniest stuff that I've ever seen.

Dude is a mid-carder no matter how much he or any of his self-booked promotions try to convince us otherwise.

Even his daddy said that he isn't world champion material.

[Welfare Willis]

Broken a thousand guitars and threw a dozen tortillas. A true carny.

[dreamer75]

Sept 17, 2017 9:53:26 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

Jarrett's main problem is that he desperately wants to be a territory headliner like his dad or Lawler were in Memphis. That's the sad reality of Jarrett to me. If the WWF national expansion had never happened and cable TV never became a reality then Jerry Jarrett could have turned over the reigns to Jeff and he could have kept Memphis going and likely been a well liked local babyface star. That's his fatal flaw I think. He wants to pretend it's 1972 and he can run his own territory and be the top star, but do it on some national level.

I think Jarrett's lasting legacy is being someone that spent 80% of his career being miscast. He's simply not a good heel, yet every promotion featured him as either a wimpy heel, or a "too big for his britches" type heel, and even he booked himself in TNA like a poor man's HHH. The sad thing is that Jarrett WAS a good wrestler in Memphis, equally adept at mixing it up in a technical match or a wild hardcore brawl with the Moondogs.

I will say this about Jarrett as a performer he is "good" at everything (wrestling, selling, promos as heel/face) but not "great" at anything.

Honestly he is best at the level where Miz is nowadays, perennial upper midcarder/gatekeeper to the main event who could fill in multiman matches (fatal 4 ways for the #1 contender/world title or the elimination chambers) and have a believable chance of winning. He isn't a "build your company around this guy" type, but could give the audience their money's worth.

Like most of you said 2002-2006 kinda ruins most people's opinion of the guy as a performer, but I still enjoyed his work. I just hated his booking.

[Reflecto]

The best example of the Peter Principle in pro wrestling.

As a midcard heel or a good hand, he's excellent.

As an upper card heel, he's capable.

As a main event player, he reaches his level of incompetence.

The only problem is that he got the taste for being a main event player and forced it and made himself a plot tumor.

[cabbageboy]

I still remember the ending of that KOTM match from Slammiversary 2006. I don't think I've seen a negative reaction against a match that equaled it since. And it seemed like total negative heat, not actual heel heat.