WhatCulture mass exodus

[Feargus McReddit]

Oct 25, 2017 18:24:41 GMT -5 Giul T. said:

Oct 25, 2017 18:14:25 GMT -5 Facetious said:

I get he's a big part of the group, but why? I've seen a lot of wrestling fans praising the dude for having the balls to come out before the shit hit the fan, but he's damaged goods right now. Anyone with half a brain sees that his apology isn't for being a creep, but more for being sorry for being caught.

How much of the content they had ready to go featured him?

I think that’s pretty much it. If he’s a big aspect of the launch and the content for the channel, they would have to reshuffle everything they’ve set up already to accommodate that and it might not be the best they can do with what has happened.

Not to compare the two, but consider how big Harvey Weinstein was at TWC and how many projects he was involved with or was going to be. The company is in tatters because of how many deals they’ve lost or are going to do and it’s just chaos essentially. It’s probably the same here on a much smaller scale.

[Facetious]

Oct 25, 2017 18:24:41 GMT -5 Giul T. said:

Oct 25, 2017 18:14:25 GMT -5 Facetious said:

I get he's a big part of the group, but why? I've seen a lot of wrestling fans praising the dude for having the balls to come out before the shit hit the fan, but he's damaged goods right now. Anyone with half a brain sees that his apology isn't for being a creep, but more for being sorry for being caught.

How much of the content they had ready to go featured him?

Good point. I didn't think about that. Makes a lot more sense.

[lucas_lee]

Oct 25, 2017 18:29:09 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

Oct 25, 2017 18:01:11 GMT -5 Giul T. said:

Good lord, some of the responses to that Tweet. I mean yeah, the stuff Adam did was shitty, but he recognized what he did and took responsibility for it; give the guy a chance to get the help he seems to want before writing him off.

To me it seems like he did this in the face of Weinsteins accusations so he's not the next to face a cavalcade of accusations

[fw91]

damn Plumpy...

[Final Countdown Jones]

Oct 25, 2017 17:19:59 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

This seems to keep happen with figures from Youtube, and it's always disappointing. Is it that hard not to be exploitative?

I've long held that there when you hit like 10,000 subscribers you have to take a mandatory session with some kind of PR person who lays out some really basic shit and explains consequences, since almost nobody who does Youtube for a living has an agent and they're all fumbling around like blind idiots.

[mattperiolat]

You know... I’m willing to give Adam the benefit of the doubt. What he did is awful and he did ruin lives, not just his own. The product he produced is now tainted because, no matter how good it is, it was made by someone who did something wrong. But I’m not so absolute as to believe there is no redemptive path as long as he is truly sorry and honestly makes efforts to make amends and not commit such acts again. That may just be my religious background, but I believe in mercy and forgiveness if one is not just sorry, but attempts to make amends going forward.

Now, I also know this is not a popular point of view. That I am willing to forgive someone that hurt a woman, especially in this ugly climate and time. I willing to take my lumps as long as it is understood that I do not ever, nor will I ever, condone sexual assault, rape, molestation or any acts harmful to men and women and their basic human dignity. Any final forgiveness and contrition is up to the women Adam hurt. Therefore, I can only take the position of willing to forgive as long as this never happens again and he makes amends.

There you have it. Crucify me if you must, but that’s my take.

[lucas_lee]

Oct 25, 2017 20:14:43 GMT -5 mattperiolat said:

You know... I’m willing to give Adam the benefit of the doubt. What he did is awful and he did ruin lives, not just his own. The product he produced is now tainted because, no matter how good it is, it was made by someone who did something wrong. But I’m not so absolute as to believe there is no redemptive path as long as he is truly sorry and honestly makes efforts to make amends and not commit such acts again. That may just be my religious background, but I believe in mercy and forgiveness if one is not just sorry, but attempts to make amends going forward.

Now, I also know this is not a popular point of view. That I am willing to forgive someone that hurt a woman, especially in this ugly climate and time. I willing to take my lumps as long as it is understood that I do not ever, nor will I ever, condone sexual assault, rape, molestation or any acts harmful to men and women and their basic human dignity. Any final forgiveness and contrition is up to the women Adam hurt. Therefore, I can only take the position of willing to forgive as long as this never happens again and he makes amends.

There you have it. Crucify me if you must, but that’s my take.

I'm the complete opposite, I think it should be up to the women to forgive. We're in no position to forgive since he didn't really affect us. But that's just me too.

[Moppy]

What a mess.

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

After going though the Cultaholic twitter feed I really can't help but feel that this is getting blown way out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong what Adam did was both sleazy and not very nice but the people on twitter who are calling him a sexual predator on twitter really need to claim down.

[Facetious]

Oct 25, 2017 21:27:14 GMT -5 Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster said:

After going though the Cultaholic twitter feed I really can't help but feel that this is getting blown way out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong what Adam did was both sleazy and not very nice but the people on twitter who are calling him a sexual predator on twitter really need to claim down.

Dude pretended to be a "ally to feminist" then took advantage of girls 10 years younger than him to get nudies. Dude's an absolute predator.

[FinalGwen]

Also, I strongly suspect that this confession (causing controversy days before their big new website launch) was probably not his own idea to be a nice new reflective person and was probably done because someone was trying to raise attention to what he'd done in the past and he's just furiously trying to save face now.

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Oct 25, 2017 21:40:29 GMT -5 Facetious said:

Oct 25, 2017 21:27:14 GMT -5 Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster said:

After going though the Cultaholic twitter feed I really can't help but feel that this is getting blown way out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong what Adam did was both sleazy and not very nice but the people on twitter who are calling him a sexual predator on twitter really need to claim down.

Dude pretended to be a "ally to feminist" then took advantage of girls 10 years younger than him to get nudies. Dude's an absolute predator.

How did he take advantage of her? He flirted with her, she flirted back and sent him totally consensual photos. He's not in a position of power over her. They have no relationship outside some twitter flirting.

This is not a comparable scenario to the cases that blow up around people, this is a small, personal, sleazy thing that affects Adams and the two women involved. I don't understand the uproar.

[Reflecto]

Oct 25, 2017 21:57:50 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Also, I strongly suspect that this confession (causing controversy days before their big new website launch) was probably not his own idea to be a nice new reflective person and was probably done because someone was trying to raise attention to what he'd done in the past and he's just furiously trying to save face now.

And this alone has a similar problem...why is it somehow evil for the person to admit it themselves and admit their wrongdoings personally?

We have to get some level where everyone who's done something wrong has to be exposed for the evil person they are, and admitting to it themselves and expecting to get run through the coals just isn't good enough...some wannabe Woodward and Bernstein has to be the one to reveal how evil someone is so they get to trend on Twitter and get famous for bringing them down?

Things like this- even if it's done to save face, should be seen as nothing wrong, if only because it would make sure someone gets punished for their own actions and not have it hidden until someone decides to take them down.

In the era post- Weinstein and with all of these sexual harassment charges, a little more immediacy to the punishment should be lauded and not vilified because someone else would rather let a monster get away with it a little while longer if they can't get the credit for taking them down.

[FinalGwen]

Oct 25, 2017 23:29:20 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Oct 25, 2017 21:57:50 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Also, I strongly suspect that this confession (causing controversy days before their big new website launch) was probably not his own idea to be a nice new reflective person and was probably done because someone was trying to raise attention to what he'd done in the past and he's just furiously trying to save face now.

And this alone has a similar problem...why is it somehow evil for the person to admit it themselves and admit their wrongdoings personally?

We have to get some level where everyone who's done something wrong has to be exposed for the evil person they are, and admitting to it themselves and expecting to get run through the coals just isn't good enough...some wannabe Woodward and Bernstein has to be the one to reveal how evil someone is so they get to trend on Twitter and get famous for bringing them down?

Things like this- even if it's done to save face, should be seen as nothing wrong, if only because it would make sure someone gets punished for their own actions and not have it hidden until someone decides to take them down.

In the era post- Weinstein and with all of these sexual harassment charges, a little more immediacy to the punishment should be lauded and not vilified because someone else would rather let a monster get away with it a little while longer if they can't get the credit for taking them down.

When people are actively complimenting the guy who just admitted to exploiting women, something is really messed up. We shouldn't really be applauding him for seeing where things are going and making sure his version of the narrative gets heard before the victims. Is that such a weird concept?

[Reflecto]

Oct 25, 2017 23:35:45 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Oct 25, 2017 23:29:20 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

And this alone has a similar problem...why is it somehow evil for the person to admit it themselves and admit their wrongdoings personally?

We have to get some level where everyone who's done something wrong has to be exposed for the evil person they are, and admitting to it themselves and expecting to get run through the coals just isn't good enough...some wannabe Woodward and Bernstein has to be the one to reveal how evil someone is so they get to trend on Twitter and get famous for bringing them down?

Things like this- even if it's done to save face, should be seen as nothing wrong, if only because it would make sure someone gets punished for their own actions and not have it hidden until someone decides to take them down.

In the era post- Weinstein and with all of these sexual harassment charges, a little more immediacy to the punishment should be lauded and not vilified because someone else would rather let a monster get away with it a little while longer if they can't get the credit for taking them down.

When people are actively complimenting the guy who just admitted to exploiting women, something is really messed up. We shouldn't really be applauding him for seeing where things are going and making sure his version of the narrative gets heard before the victims. Is that such a weird concept?

Honestly, it is, simply because no matter who brings him down, it shouldn't matter as long as he goes down for it.

To vilify him for what he did is fine, but to also vilify him for admitting what he did first and getting it out there is just as messed up as applauding him for that.

To wait for someone else to reveal it and say they have to be exposed for what they did- never mind the fact it could take far longer to see them brought to justice than it would be- is basically saying "improving yourself? A load of crap. I want BLOOD for what you did"- which is fair for righteous indignation, but also goes further than that to "I don't even care if you go down, just as long as I am the one who brings you down in the first place. I want to be seen as Woodward and Bernstein, taking down a corrupt evil person! Heck, I don't even care what you did or if it's worthy of taking you down, I WANT MY TWITTER FAME, DAMMIT!"

What's important is that he's been found out and he's being raked through the coals, not who gets credit for exposing him and raking him through the coals.

[mcstoklasa]

This doesn't seem like a big deal. The guys a shit boyfriend and a bit of a c*** but a predator? Um..

[Alice Syndrome]

Oct 25, 2017 17:19:59 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

This seems to keep happen with figures from Youtube, and it's always disappointing. Is it that hard not to be exploitative?

It happens to a lot of people who get a rapid rise to fame. It goes straight to their heads, or other body parts.

[Gawk Rivers]

10 Things WhatCulture Doesn't Want You To Know About Adam

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

Oct 26, 2017 1:58:36 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

10 Things WhatCulture Doesn't Want You To Know About Adam

Also ten things WhatCulture/Cultaholic want you to forget about Adam Blampied.

[Mozenrath]

Oct 26, 2017 1:58:36 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

10 Things WhatCulture Doesn't Want You To Know About Adam

7. He likes the Psycho remake more than the original.

8. He keeps stealing buttons from Hot Topic for shows he doesn't even watch.