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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Nov 5, 2017 13:12:37 GMT -5
What happens? As we're seeing more and more people come forward about sexual misconduct within the entertainment industry I couldn't help but wonder how the WWE as a whole would handle it if Vince wound up on the wrong side of allegations. For that matter, how would the company handle anyone having accusations made against them? Thoughts?
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Post by Cyno on Nov 5, 2017 13:16:13 GMT -5
They'll hunker down and nothing short of a shareholders' revolt or tons of external pressure from WWE's sponsors and partners will force their hand.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 5, 2017 13:16:26 GMT -5
He already has been.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 13:17:10 GMT -5
That might be the one name out of this whole entertainment sexual assault rise that I don't have a response towards. I don't know what'll happen but I get a feeling the company, most wrestling fans and the wrestling industry around the world would sweep it under the rug. Hell, even if the entertainment industry lit a fire under the WWE I doubt they'd change anything. Wrestling fans and the wrestling industry are too loyal. Vince could kill someone and he'd still be welcomed back as sad and pathetic as that is. After that Hogan bullshit and seeing people welcome him back I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Nov 5, 2017 13:19:34 GMT -5
True. However, in today's climate, it would probably be handled a lot differently. In the past few weeks we've seen seen powerful and influential people be blackballed and lose jobs at the drop of a hat. If someone were to come forward now I'm almost certain it wouldn't go down like last time.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 5, 2017 13:24:12 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to see if Rita Chatterton's complaints would be taken more seriously in the current climate than they were at the time.
But given how WWE gets away with having multiple sex offenders celebrated to this day in their Hall Of Fame, it might still have the 'garbage business' associations and avoid the worst of it.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Nov 5, 2017 13:37:30 GMT -5
to be honest, I think they would just move HHH/steph up to chairman and push vince to an in name only no power role in the company, if they didn't already have the paperwork set up already for such a situation.
they must have plans for a lot of things, waiting to go in case anything happens to vince.. his ego wouldn't allow his lifes work to crumble to dust the moment he no longer has the ability to affect it.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 5, 2017 13:38:03 GMT -5
If they make a highlight reel of the stuff he's done on tv can they set it to this
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 5, 2017 13:38:33 GMT -5
That might be the one name out of this whole entertainment sexual assault rise that I don't have a response towards. I don't know what'll happen but I get a feeling the company, most wrestling fans and the wrestling industry around the world would sweep it under the rug. Hell, even if the entertainment industry lit a fire under the WWE I doubt they'd change anything. Wrestling fans and the wrestling industry are too loyal. Vince could kill someone and he'd still be welcomed back as sad and pathetic as that is. After that Hogan bullshit and seeing people welcome him back I wouldn't be surprised. It would be impossible to sweep it under the rug if something like Weinstein was levied at Vince. Wrestling fans and the "wrestling industry" don't matter in this regard. Kevin Spacey still has supporters right now, do you think Netflix is giving a crap about what they think when they cancelled one of their anchor shows? It's advertisers and stockholders that matter and with WWE, USA Network matters the most because their bread and butter is still the TV deal. I guarantee you if enough noise was made, WWE would lose sponsors immediately and USA almost certainly have an outclause in their deal with WWE for things like this (Id be shocked if they didnt after Benoit) and could threaten the TV deal. It would be bad for Vince, but WWE would survive. Just as its bad for Weinstein (who was once thought untouchable) and Spacey. WWE has positioned themselves in the entertainment industry for years now. WWE Films etc, would all be potentially adversely affected. It's not 1985 anymore. It's pretty clear what would happen. Vince is in his 70s now. He'd likely step down and Stephanie would be named in his place. Vince would continue to have influence in the background because he's Vince, but he wouldnt have direct leverage in the legal respect.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 5, 2017 13:39:00 GMT -5
Vince is the type who isn't going to slink away at just the accusation, no matter how much people scream at him to give up and f*** off forever.
Now, if anyone could actually put him dead to rights, I don't know what he'd do (I assume sell all his shares to Stephanie at a gift rate).
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Nov 5, 2017 13:41:51 GMT -5
If Rita Marie, the tanning salon employee from 2006 or several other possible people kicked up a stink again now it might be the point the board decides he needs to be kicked upstairs.
Especially considering that his wife's job probably puts him closer to the wind than some.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 5, 2017 13:42:33 GMT -5
to be honest, I think they would just move HHH/steph up to chairman and push vince to an in name only no power role in the company, if they didn't already have the paperwork set up already for such a situation. they must have plans for a lot of things, waiting to go in case anything happens to vince.. his ego wouldn't allow his lifes work to crumble to dust the moment he no longer has the ability to affect it. They definitely have contingency plans. They surely have one for something like a disaster (i.e. a plane crash). I think they're required by law to have this kind of thing in place because they're public.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 5, 2017 13:43:31 GMT -5
It's worth bearing in mind that all the people so far accused have been dropped by people higher than them, or by people equally as high who've decided to walk away from doing business with them. Spacey got dropped by the people making his biggest show, and by his agent. These are people who don't need to even exert pressure, they just make a decision and he's got to live with the consequences of his actions. Vince isn't only the king of his castle he's the kind of the entire business. He also comes from an "old" time and possesses a strange lack of shame by all accounts, so I can see him trying to just duck underground for a few months. It'll take sponsors twisting his arm to get him out of that position.
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Post by Johnny on Nov 5, 2017 13:45:27 GMT -5
I can't believe we're having this conversation.
Vince McMahon is not a sexual predator. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a sexual predator, but he is NOT a porn star!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 13:48:11 GMT -5
That might be the one name out of this whole entertainment sexual assault rise that I don't have a response towards. I don't know what'll happen but I get a feeling the company, most wrestling fans and the wrestling industry around the world would sweep it under the rug. Hell, even if the entertainment industry lit a fire under the WWE I doubt they'd change anything. Wrestling fans and the wrestling industry are too loyal. Vince could kill someone and he'd still be welcomed back as sad and pathetic as that is. After that Hogan bullshit and seeing people welcome him back I wouldn't be surprised. It would be impossible to sweep it under the rug if something like Weinstein was levied at Vince. Wrestling fans and the "wrestling industry" don't matter in this regard. Kevin Spacey still has supporters right now, do you think Netflix is giving a crap about what they think when they cancelled one of their anchor shows? It's advertisers and stockholders that matter and with WWE, USA Network matters the most because their bread and butter is still the TV deal. I guarantee you if enough noise was made, WWE would lose sponsors immediately and USA almost certainly have an outclause in their deal with WWE for things like this (Id be shocked if they didnt after Benoit) and could threaten the TV deal. It would be bad for Vince, but WWE would survive. Just as its bad for Weinstein (who was once thought untouchable) and Spacey. WWE has positioned themselves in the entertainment industry for years now. WWE Films etc, would all be potentially adversely affected. It's not 1985 anymore. It's pretty clear what would happen. Vince is in his 70s now. He'd likely step down and Stephanie would be named in his place. Vince would continue to have influence in the background because he's Vince, but he wouldnt have direct leverage in the legal respect. I don't care if they don't matter, I'm still saying wrestling fans and the wrestling industry would still take Vince back and I'm saying that in a negative light. I wouldn't take Vince back if this situation came out but I'm mentioning those already in wrestling and the fans in general. After that Hogan bullshit that's just how it is. As for what happens outside of wrestling fans as in the entertainment industry and what they've do, sponsors and shareholders, in my post I mostly wasn't even talking about them. Hell I said "if they lit a fire under the WWE" as in if they responded to the backlash against Vince IE "if they want to take him down." Basically I wasn't really talking about how the entertainment industry would respond, I was talking about fans and those in the industry. I'm not saying "the entertainment industry wouldn't do a thing to Vince" and this is furthermore highlighted by the fact I said "if they lit a fire under the WWE." They probably would respond back.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 5, 2017 13:48:27 GMT -5
I think it would be the end of WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 13:50:12 GMT -5
I said this in some other thread a while back, but it's only a matter of time until wrestling is brought into the discussion re. sexual harassment/assault. The rumors have been there for years, and there was some seriously shady stuff going on back during the Rita Chatterton/ring boys scandal time frame. If it is true and ever comes out it's going to ruin the fandom of a lot of a lot of people because it's not just Vince that has ever done things like this in the WWF/E.
As for the question: Stephanie will take over as it would be good PR to have a female in charge and Vince would still be behind the scenes contributing wherever he could. Whether the WWE would survive this is another discussion entirely.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 5, 2017 13:53:29 GMT -5
I think it would be the end of WWE. They have the benefit of the heir to the company being female (as unlikable as she otherwise is). Steph is pretty much the buffer against screaming heads demanding that WWE be put out of business.
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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 5, 2017 13:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 13:58:19 GMT -5
I said this in some other thread a while back, but it's only a matter of time until wrestling is brought into the discussion re. sexual harassment/assault. The rumors have been there for years, and there was some seriously shady stuff going on back during the Rita Chatterton/ring boys scandal time frame. If it is true and ever comes out it's going to ruin the fandom of a lot of a lot of people because it's not just Vince that has ever done things like this in the WWF/E. As for the question: Stephanie will take over as it would be good PR to have a female in charge and Vince would still be behind the scenes contributing wherever he could. Whether the WWE would survive this is another discussion entirely. Back in the 80s, I think it was Rick Rude who said it is good to keep the wives out of the business because of ring rats and the rudeness of some wrestlers.
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