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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Nov 24, 2017 9:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 24, 2017 10:01:46 GMT -5
Not cool.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 24, 2017 10:33:51 GMT -5
Appalling.
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Post by Skeletor on Nov 24, 2017 10:45:44 GMT -5
This is the worst day in the history of this era
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:29:35 GMT -5
235 now. Jesus christ.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2017 12:52:38 GMT -5
Awful news. Has anyone claimed responsibility yet? I know the Sinai Peninsula's been pretty unstable since the Mubarak regime collapsed with both Al Qaeda and ISIL getting their fingers into the mix. Still, to attack people who only wanted to pray in peace is disgusting.
I hope that this horrific attack will ingrain in certain peoples' heads that Muslims are as much the victims of these terrorist groups as anyone else, if not moreso.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 24, 2017 13:22:11 GMT -5
Awful news. Has anyone claimed responsibility yet? I know the Sinai Peninsula's been pretty unstable since the Mubarak regime collapsed with both Al Qaeda and ISIL getting their fingers into the mix. Still, to attack people who only wanted to pray in peace is disgusting. I hope that this horrific attack will ingrain in certain peoples' heads that Muslims are as much the victims of these terrorist groups as anyone else, if not moreso. Definitely moreso. What's even sadder is the double whammy that not only are most terror victims in these situations Muslim, those Muslims then often have to deal with intolerance from other groups who develop Islamophobia over it all. And this particular situation is just a damn nightmare. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 24, 2017 13:23:49 GMT -5
Damn... my condolences to the families of the victims.
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 24, 2017 13:28:34 GMT -5
It's amazing that MSNBC did not cover this when the death toll had already reached 200. I don't know if they have since then.
In the Arab world, we often complain that international media does not care about deaths that happen in places like Egypt. When I saw that the 200 deaths didn't even merit a mention, or even a few hours of coverage on what is already a quiet post-holiday, I was hardpressed to disagree.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 24, 2017 13:38:43 GMT -5
It's amazing that MSNBC did not cover this when the death toll had already reached 200. I don't know if they have since then. In the Arab world, we often complain that international media does not care about deaths that happen in places like Egypt. When I saw that the 200 deaths didn't even merit a mention, or even a few hours of coverage on what is already a quiet post-holiday, I was hardpressed to disagree. I’ve said for a while now that part of why we in the Us and parts of Europe get so paranoid over terror attacks and resort to drastic measures in our desire to prevent them is their comparative rarity to us. In certain parts of the world this is a regular occurrence, and it is that kind of desensitization to it that breeds further radicalization. You ha e to look at the causes, not just react to the effect. |
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 24, 2017 13:50:18 GMT -5
It's amazing that MSNBC did not cover this when the death toll had already reached 200. I don't know if they have since then. In the Arab world, we often complain that international media does not care about deaths that happen in places like Egypt. When I saw that the 200 deaths didn't even merit a mention, or even a few hours of coverage on what is already a quiet post-holiday, I was hardpressed to disagree. I’ve said for a while now that part of why we in the Us and parts of Europe get so paranoid over terror attacks and resort to drastic measures in our desire to prevent them is their comparative rarity to us. In certain parts of the world this is a regular occurrence, and it is that kind of desensitization to it that breeds further radicalization. You ha e to look at the causes, not just react to the effect. Yeah. I get that to a point. But... it's a rarity in Egypt as well. They've been through attacks, certainly, even similar attacks, but I study journalism. In textbooks, you're told, 200+ dead is absolutely the kind of thing that's out of the ordinary and merits coverage. From what I read a few hours, none of the news networks are bringing this up. And again, it's the day after Thanksgiving. The namebrand anchors are probably stuffed and sleeping. They have nothing else to talk about. There's no reason the attack shouldn't be covered, 'breaking news' banners and all. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:54:50 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Nov 24, 2017 14:01:38 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers. My belief, not to bring religion in (which will probably get this thread locked), is that they view them as not part of their group, therefore they are eligible to be killed. "With us or against us" is their mentality. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 24, 2017 14:30:09 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers. Not commenting on it further than this, and we certainly ask that everybody here stick with rules pertaining to religious talk and maybe leave it at this, but one of the more common books found among the possessions of captured/killed ISIS members is pretty much entitled "Islam for Dummies". The sad truth is that some people are just desperate for a cause to fight for and get violent over, and they'll warp and bastardize any philosophy, religion, political ideal, or general idea to justify their monstrous actions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 14:32:30 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers. The terrorist organizations also conform to certain sects which have very long and violent histories with one another. In much the same way Christianity has many variations. So just being of the same overall religion is not actually enough to prevent them from targeting you. |
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Nov 24, 2017 17:48:10 GMT -5
Friday prayers are the biggest gathering and most tightly packed congregations you'll see at any Mosque, outside of Eid prayers which happen twice a year.
In the middle of prayer, any sort of spread attack is likely to hit a large amount of people and even if the initial impact didn't affect many, the ensuing chaos and rushing out of the disaster zone would be mayhem.
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Post by montee916 on Nov 24, 2017 17:49:38 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers. The terrorist organizations also conform to certain sects which have very long and violent histories with one another. In much the same way Christianity has many variations. So just being of the same overall religion is not actually enough to prevent them from targeting you. Pretty much this. I mean, Catholics and Protestants more or less believe the same thing, but that didn't stop parts of Ireland going to pieces for how many years? |
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 24, 2017 22:15:45 GMT -5
How does attacking a mosque reconcile with even the most twisted view of Islam? I’m not trying to make this about religion, I’m just genuinely curious how this is rationalized to their followers. Islam itself is divided into a number of branches and philosophies. The victims of this atrocity are Sufi, which is a form of Islam which has a more mystical element to it. The perpetrators are almost certainly Salafists, which is an ultra fundamentalist movement which regards Sufism as heretical. |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Nov 25, 2017 3:45:54 GMT -5
I hope that this horrific attack will ingrain in certain peoples' heads that Muslims are as much the victims of these terrorist groups as anyone else, if not moreso. Definitely moreso. When terror attacks strike here, it's huge news because even nowadays, those are rare and isolated events, but in the Middle-East, they have to deal with it on a daily basis. As much as Islamist terrorists hates non-Muslims, they hate moderate Muslims even more, as they view them as traitors to their cause (especially in Daech's case since their goal is to cause a war that will lead to the apocalypse, making peaceful Muslims the biggest obstacle in their way). Just look at what they do to Kurdish groups that oppose them (and yeah, that's another thing people tend to forget or not now: by far the largest and strongest opposition to Daesh and other Islamist groups is from other Muslim people). |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 25, 2017 5:54:34 GMT -5
My sympathies with those poor kids. Terrorism doesn't make sense to me.
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