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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 2, 2017 8:27:25 GMT -5
Give it up, Dolph. There's nowhere that you're going to go that you're going to be treated like the primary featured performer.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Dec 2, 2017 8:44:59 GMT -5
Dolph has won more titles than some people will ever see one of in their careers, dude should be blessed to be where he is. If he wants to do more, then do it, but while his booking could have been way better, don't act like your career doesn't qualify for the Hall of Fame at this point...
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 2, 2017 10:59:01 GMT -5
Dolph has won more titles than some people will ever see one of in their careers, dude should be blessed to be where he is. If he wants to do more, then do it, but while his booking could have been way better, don't act like your career doesn't qualify for the Hall of Fame at this point... To be fair, given WWE's booking, did most of those title wins actually mean anything? Given how they pass belts around and do the whole "we're putting the belt on so-and-so but not actually pushing them" thing, I don't think title wins mean very much. |
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Dec 2, 2017 11:17:40 GMT -5
Give it up, Dolph. There's nowhere that you're going to go that you're going to be treated like the primary featured performer. And with good reason. He's not good enough in any aspect to be the featured performer. Ringwork? WWE is loaded with great wrestlers now, Dolph's top tier at selling but not really at anything else. Promos? Nope, there's better. Charisma? There's better. Look? There's better. Overness? There's people more popular. In 2013-14, Dolph was a good candidate to give a proper chance- the roster was still talented but not AS stacked as now, and he was doing good work and was over. Now? The ship has completely sailed on Dolph. I don't dislike him but I'm over him as anything above a gatekeeper, and I don't blame WWE for feeling the same. |
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Post by PTBartman on Dec 2, 2017 16:00:57 GMT -5
To piggy back on the response I just left on the Owens Zayne thread. Dolph would actually do great with a neutral alignment. It might be the onlything left to save his character.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Dec 2, 2017 21:27:46 GMT -5
Dolph has won more titles than some people will ever see one of in their careers, dude should be blessed to be where he is. If he wants to do more, then do it, but while his booking could have been way better, don't act like your career doesn't qualify for the Hall of Fame at this point... To be fair, given WWE's booking, did most of those title wins actually mean anything? Given how they pass belts around and do the whole "we're putting the belt on so-and-so but not actually pushing them" thing, I don't think title wins mean very much. But he's still a Triple Crown Champion and a Two Time World Champion, a Five Time IC Champion, factor in his US and Tag Title holdings he is a Grand Slam Champion. Some of those wins meant something and they can't just say he didn't win them so yeah, he has a HoF level career. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 21:53:54 GMT -5
To be fair, given WWE's booking, did most of those title wins actually mean anything? Given how they pass belts around and do the whole "we're putting the belt on so-and-so but not actually pushing them" thing, I don't think title wins mean very much. But he's still a Triple Crown Champion and a Two Time World Champion, a Five Time IC Champion, factor in his US and Tag Title holdings he is a Grand Slam Champion. Some of those wins meant something and they can't just say he didn't win them so yeah, he has a HoF level career. He was literally handed his first world and lost it later that night. The WHC was pretty clearly an upper midcard title the second time he won it. That's a case of an accomplishment sounding way better on paper than it was in reality. Outside of that, he has the typical resume of any vaguely popular midcarder who stuck around for a while during the last 20 years. Has he ever main evented a PPV in a one on one match? Considering how over he was for a while, I can see why he wanted more. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 2, 2017 22:23:00 GMT -5
To be fair, given WWE's booking, did most of those title wins actually mean anything? Given how they pass belts around and do the whole "we're putting the belt on so-and-so but not actually pushing them" thing, I don't think title wins mean very much. But he's still a Triple Crown Champion and a Two Time World Champion, a Five Time IC Champion, factor in his US and Tag Title holdings he is a Grand Slam Champion. Some of those wins meant something and they can't just say he didn't win them so yeah, he has a HoF level career. I kind of see it the way I heard Sheamus being described recently: that the guy's a multi-time world champ, midcard champ, tag champ, Rumble and KotR winner, etc., and while Sheamus is very good it's just a byproduct of this era that all those accolades mean basically nothing considering guys like Sheamus and Ziggler are firmly in the midcard. That's not me bashing the wrestlers, more bashing the way the company has worked over the past 15 years or so. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 3, 2017 0:10:03 GMT -5
Give it up, Dolph. There's nowhere that you're going to go that you're going to be treated like the primary featured performer. And with good reason. He's not good enough in any aspect to be the featured performer. Ringwork? WWE is loaded with great wrestlers now, Dolph's top tier at selling but not really at anything else. Promos? Nope, there's better. Charisma? There's better. Look? There's better. Overness? There's people more popular. In 2013-14, Dolph was a good candidate to give a proper chance- the roster was still talented but not AS stacked as now, and he was doing good work and was over. Now? The ship has completely sailed on Dolph. I don't dislike him but I'm over him as anything above a gatekeeper, and I don't blame WWE for feeling the same. I mean even at the time dude never really had a character or personality outside of *hairflip* and then wearing shirts and stuff that say show off ... or talk about stealing the show... but... he never really did. He's had good matches with people and all but I never once thought Dolph was the guy to have the Match of the Night... let alone one who constantly had the match of the night. That said he was really over for a good chunk of time and the WWE did him a disservice... but that ship is long gone at this point. |
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 3, 2017 0:37:58 GMT -5
I would much rather watch Miz wrestle than Dolph these days.
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Post by Dean-o on Dec 3, 2017 2:46:26 GMT -5
But he's still a Triple Crown Champion and a Two Time World Champion, a Five Time IC Champion, factor in his US and Tag Title holdings he is a Grand Slam Champion. Some of those wins meant something and they can't just say he didn't win them so yeah, he has a HoF level career. Outside of that, he has the typical resume of any vaguely popular midcarder who stuck around for a while during the last 20 years. Has he ever main evented a PPV in a one on one match? Considering how over he was for a while, I can see why he wanted more. TLC 2012 vs. John Cena is the only one that comes to mind. |
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Post by dreidemy on Dec 3, 2017 5:43:46 GMT -5
The Dolph hate makes me sad but I can't say that I cared about the guy since the botched heel turn
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 3, 2017 5:50:24 GMT -5
if I was Dolph at this point i'd consider doing something else with more potential and respect like knocking on people's houses in the middle of the night asking if they'd like him to clean up their place for them for money
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 3, 2017 20:50:16 GMT -5
Ziggler has every right to complain. The only difference I see with him right now and CM Punk in 2014 is he hasn't nearly died for the company.
The dude should just go join LIJ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 20:52:07 GMT -5
The Dolph hate makes me sad but I can't say that I cared about the guy since the botched heel turn Yeah, honestly I think he's better as a face. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 21:12:16 GMT -5
Poor guy's career is Dead in the Water. He had that brief resurgence in popularity when he lasted forever in that Survivor Series match and then Sting saved him (because the ref was stupid), but ever since he's been nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 21:21:26 GMT -5
Poor guy's career is Dead in the Water. He had that brief resurgence in popularity when he lasted forever in that Survivor Series match and then Sting saved him (because the ref was stupid), but ever since he's been nothing. Him winning that Career vs. Title match with Miz was a very cool moment, but then they had him drop it back to Miz and then not only lose the ladder match but get completely shit on by Miz after it on the mic (which i thought was stupid). Never been able to bounce back from that, but he did have that funny moment where he beat Apollo down with the chair and got cheered for it. |
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 3, 2017 21:24:26 GMT -5
This guy needs an ECW. He is the pretty boy who goes down there to get roughened up like Tommy Dreamer. Comes back more hardcore. We all win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 21:24:41 GMT -5
Poor guy's career is Dead in the Water. He had that brief resurgence in popularity when he lasted forever in that Survivor Series match and then Sting saved him (because the ref was stupid), but ever since he's been nothing. And it was supposed to be a The Ryback in that spot but they picked Dolph when they realized Ryback couldn’t do it and Dolph winning wouldn’t matter seconds later cause it’d be all about HHH and Sting. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Dec 3, 2017 21:30:30 GMT -5
Poor guy's career is Dead in the Water. He had that brief resurgence in popularity when he lasted forever in that Survivor Series match and then Sting saved him (because the ref was stupid), but ever since he's been nothing. And it was supposed to be a The Ryback in that spot but they picked Dolph when they realized Ryback couldn’t do it and Dolph winning wouldn’t matter seconds later cause it’d be all about HHH and Sting. Ryback? This screamed Reigns, to the point where I think people are on record as saying that it was going to be his victory spot before he got put out with that hernia issue. I mean, who else would have a finisher so powerful that Rollins was out a good five minutes before the face made the pin and STILL win? |
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