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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2017 21:48:37 GMT -5
Ziggler has every right to complain. The only difference I see with him right now and CM Punk in 2014 is he hasn't nearly died for the company. The dude should just go join LIJ. Na LIJ is fine as they are Don't clutter it up with the likes of Dolph
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 22:57:50 GMT -5
Ziggler has every right to complain. The only difference I see with him right now and CM Punk in 2014 is he hasn't nearly died for the company. The dude should just go join LIJ. Na LIJ is fine as they are Don't clutter it up with the likes of Dolph Dolph has Suzuki-gun written all over him, anyway.
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Post by corndog on Dec 3, 2017 23:22:42 GMT -5
Last time I saw Dolph was making $900,000 a year with travel and accommodations covered. That's a pretty big chunk of change I don't see him getting elsewhere. As far as getting booked better, let's be honest, Cody wasn't in a much better position with the company when he left. Dolph would do well in ROH or Lucha Underground. He would get a chance in New Japan.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 4, 2017 0:15:00 GMT -5
It's interesting to see how many posters in this thread turned on Dolph. A lot of them were the ones calling for him to get a huge push due to his Survivor Series performance. Yes, Dolph has every right to be dejected, bitter, and to complain because the company has pushed and de-pushed him so much to the point that it's ridiculous.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2017 0:16:43 GMT -5
It's interesting to see how many posters in this thread turned on Dolph. A lot of them were the ones calling for him to get a huge push due to his Survivor Series performance. Yes, Dolph has every right to be dejected, bitter, and to complain because the company has pushed and de-pushed him so much to the point that it's ridiculous. Minds can change Frankly for me he's done nothing to change himself so while he was different 7 years ago, good 5 years ago, and still above average 3 years ago, time is passing by and he's still standing in place while others pass him
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 4, 2017 7:12:39 GMT -5
The dude should just go join LIJ. Don't say things that you can't take back. Dolph isn't even a stain on Naito or Hiromu's underwear.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 7:33:32 GMT -5
Ziggler is a good wrestler, but I can't help but feel like wherever he goes, whether it's Fox Business or something else, he'll be cutting the same old "I should be the main guy here" schtick about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 9:51:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who wished Miz ran him out of the WWE in 2016? Usually the faces always win the feud, but here was one heel I was wishing rid a face off the roster for good. I recall giving No Mercy a 0 out of 10 on that alone. The win did jack squat for Ziggler; Mix running him out would have been much more interesting.
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Post by Skeletor on Jan 9, 2018 22:04:02 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 9, 2018 22:13:51 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club Why would you put that evil on us?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 9, 2018 22:16:40 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club Remember how adding Del Rio ruined Sheamus/Barrett/Rusev?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 9, 2018 22:20:08 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club Remember how adding Del Rio ruined Sheamus/Barrett/Rusev? No,the idea was pretty crap to begin with. They would still be Roman Job Squad
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 9, 2018 22:20:25 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club Remember how adding Del Rio ruined Sheamus/Barrett/Rusev? It did, but that also had them making the League of Nations center around Alberto too much and Del Rio being a real-life knob. Ziggler's worn out a whole lot of patience with me and good will, but if he was not put on a pedestal, I could maybe be fine with it. Besides, other than Spirit Squad, we haven't really seen him in a stable, so that's at least kind of novel. Not much, but it'd be different from his current schtick.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 9, 2018 22:21:19 GMT -5
Remember how adding Del Rio ruined Sheamus/Barrett/Rusev? No,the idea was pretty crap to begin with. They would still be Roman Job Squad They were actually having fun and the chemistry came across. And then they added Del Rio and it became awful.
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Post by Skeletor on Jan 9, 2018 22:42:49 GMT -5
maybe he'll jump to Raw and join Balor Club Why would you put that evil on us? Seemed like a good idea at the time
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 22:45:50 GMT -5
Why would you put that evil on us? Seemed like a good idea at the time WWE should have that quote framed and hung in their headquarters.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 9, 2018 22:49:34 GMT -5
No,the idea was pretty crap to begin with. They would still be Roman Job Squad They were actually having fun and the chemistry came across. And then they added Del Rio and it became awful. Eh,Sheamus was still really bland too. No mistake,Del Rio just brought it down to the lowest level. But Wade and Rusev were the soul of it all
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 10, 2018 4:50:13 GMT -5
Na LIJ is fine as they are Don't clutter it up with the likes of Dolph Dolph has Suzuki-gun written all over him, anyway. Now I just want Dolph to show up in NJPW acting like he's this cool rebellious badass and being all buddy buddy with Suzuki Gun expecting to join, and Minoru just beats the everloving piss out of him. And I don't even dislike Dolph.
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Post by TGM on Jan 10, 2018 5:35:45 GMT -5
Imagine how insufferable Dolph would be if he joined Bullet Club and started hanging out with Cody and the Bucks.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 10, 2018 7:38:49 GMT -5
I think for Dolph's own sake he needs time away from WWE for a while. Not just to recharge and/or rebrand, but due to the fact that the company's likely resigned him to the category of "yeah he complains, but he's not going anywhere". A departure on his part could not only allow him to expand and grow as a worker outside the WWE system (which is he's really ever known) if he chose to wrestle, and more importantly make it clear to the company he's willing to put his money where his mouth is in regards to his issues with creative.
Ziggler's a talented guy still with a ton of upside, but the current set-up is doing no favors for either side.
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