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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 11:07:29 GMT -5
The praising of Moolah sucks, but anyone who thinks that they should just shrug and forget the shit Chyna said about them and the f***ing porno she did that mocked them and the company is either foolish, or just wants to have something to bitch about when it comes to H/Steph It is a combination of Triple H/Steph hate and the morality card that makes a topic about Chyna go south.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 19, 2017 11:08:21 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm glad I wasn't the only one offended when they mentiones Moolah last night. If you want to make history and honor it, what about acknowledging the 3 women who were actually in the Rumble's past? Chyna Beth Kharma What I don't understand is, Chyna is a saint compared to Moolah yet she continuously gets dogged by WWE and HHH and Steph. What is the obsession with Moolah and the disrespectful nature to Chyna? Because like Vince, Trips and Stephanie can be petty as f***. Do you honestly blame them? Let me call you an abuser, among other things and Ill go make a sex video that mocks you and we can talk about petty. Like, I'm not a big H/Steph person, but people being upset at the idea they're holding a grudge is absolutely baffling to me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 11:10:47 GMT -5
Honestly folks, what happened between Trips and Chyna is their business.
It's funny how people shit on Trips for allegedly cheating on Chyna but worship womanizers like Ric Flair and Bret Hart. I'm sorry, but I don't buy your moral stance.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2017 11:12:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I am not bothered because, frankly, most of Chyna's run that mattered in WWF wasn't really wrestling other women. When she worked a program with Ivory, she outright considered it a demotion and wasn't particularly shy about Ivory knowing it until she gained Chyna's respect over time. She also didn't seem terribly keen to put over Lita when it became clear she was essentially Chyna's heir apparent.
She wasn't a woman wrestler, she was a wrestler who was a woman, and outside of the Ivory feud, didn't really do much of note in the division. Her accolades lay elsewhere.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 19, 2017 11:25:07 GMT -5
WWE has a blind spot for Moolah and Snuka. It's weird.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 19, 2017 11:27:57 GMT -5
Honestly, I am not bothered because, frankly, most of Chyna's run that mattered in WWF wasn't really wrestling other women. When she worked a program with Ivory, she outright considered it a demotion and wasn't particularly shy about Ivory knowing it until she gained Chyna's respect over time. She also didn't seem terribly keen to put over Lita when it became clear she was essentially Chyna's heir apparent. She wasn't a woman wrestler, she was a wrestler who was a woman, and outside of the Ivory feud, didn't really do much of note in the division. Her accolades lay elsewhere. The problem is that the alternative is acknowledging that she was basically promoted as a freakshow, more or less.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 19, 2017 11:45:28 GMT -5
Honestly I'd rather neither person be mentioned. Chyna for her terrible remarks towards the company and that ridiculous porn parody, Moolah because she was a monster. There are plenty of others that pioneered the women's division that wouldn't be embarrassing for the company. Medusa a prime example.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2017 11:51:06 GMT -5
Moolah still gets mentioned rarely because well she died before a lot of people knew of the allegations... and even still the allegations against her aren't THAT well known. It's funny though. Scott and X-Pac had the same demons, if we share going to stick to drugs and alcohol here and good ol HHH helped his boys out here and for the most part the are revered as The Kliq with that DVD release a while back. If it wasn't for the porn career, I'd say Scott Hall had the more destructive lifestyle yet HHH is there for him. Scott Hall and X-Pac didn't go around calling Triple H a pedophile. Forget the drugs, forget the porn career: it's about the fact that Chyna spent years publicly running down the heirs to the company and saying insane shit about them. Even Triple H's remark about his kids Googling her is all completely transparent and it's shocking that people buy it, but the real reason that she's not given any recognition is because of the things she's said and done that make everyone involved just want to forget her. It was very much a PR line so HHH could avoid saying something along the lines of "Chyna is a trainwreck and we don't trust her with a live mic." and starring in professional pornography is a good out due to their PG rating. (especially since as mentioned one of the porns she worked in was a parody of the WWE where she had sex with "Stephanie" and "Vince")
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 19, 2017 12:26:51 GMT -5
WWE has a blind spot for Moolah and Snuka. It's weird. Think for a moment about Vince's relationship with both of them: he allowed Moolah to do all of her bullshit in his company, while even Snuka's own book basically implicates Vince in bribing the police to not arrest him for the murder. Both of them did horrible things that Vince was party to and in the Snuka situation committed a crime during his involvement in it. With how much slimy shit Vince has done, it'd be weirder if he was shunning people for their own horrible shit.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 19, 2017 12:47:20 GMT -5
The praising of Moolah sucks, but anyone who thinks that they should just shrug and forget the shit Chyna said about them and the f***ing porno she did that mocked them and the company is either foolish, or just wants to have something to bitch about when it comes to H/Steph All they would need to do is simply mention her history in the Royal Rumble. Nothing more.
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Post by freeze Austin on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:37 GMT -5
Moolah never slept with Paul. Or with porns version of Batista, Lee Stone.
To sane people that's not as bad as forcing young girls into prostitution against their will and hooking them on hard drugs, but this is WWE where pettiness rules the day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 13:30:22 GMT -5
There are so many good options to go with even if you don't go with Chyna. Madusa would be perfect, and lord knows Wendi Richter is long overdue for some praise.
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Post by doinkmark on Dec 19, 2017 16:43:29 GMT -5
In fairness they didnt mention Moolah at all during the Mae Young Classic, they just seem to pick and choose who they name drop. Given the nature of Chyna's death its going to be a long time before they celebrate her. It's funny though. Scott and X-Pac had the same demons, if we share going to stick to drugs and alcohol here and good ol HHH helped his boys out here and for the most part the are revered as The Kliq with that DVD release a while back. If it wasn't for the porn career, I'd say Scott Hall had the more destructive lifestyle yet HHH is there for him. X Pac, Chyna's porn co-star, appeared on the same damn episode of Raw where after the show Trips mentioned how Chyna might not be good to have on their show again due to her porn career. Chyna has taken Savage's place as that person who should be in the HOF but seemingly never will be because Trips and her used to date. It's honestly as simple as that IMO. It's not like WWE doesn't know how to corporate spin people's reputations.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2017 16:47:12 GMT -5
It's funny though. Scott and X-Pac had the same demons, if we share going to stick to drugs and alcohol here and good ol HHH helped his boys out here and for the most part the are revered as The Kliq with that DVD release a while back. If it wasn't for the porn career, I'd say Scott Hall had the more destructive lifestyle yet HHH is there for him. X Pac, Chyna's porn co-star, appeared on the same damn episode of Raw where after the show Trips mentioned how Chyna might not be good to have on their show again due to her porn career. Chyna has taken Savage's place as that person who should be in the HOF but seemingly never will be because Trips and her used to date. It's honestly as simple as that IMO. It's not like WWE doesn't know how to corporate spin people's reputations. Again as an aside that the Porn thing was Triple H giving a PR answer instead of calling her a train wreck. Amateur porn which X-pac starred in. And Professional Pornography (including one where she had sex with people pretending to be the owner of the company and his daughter) like Chyna did. Are two completely different scenarios. but again the point was Chyna spent pretty much all of her time otherwise doing things like publicly calling HHH a pedophile and just in general being a public train wreck. the WWE were never going to honor her until she could prove they could trust her with an open mic... and that meant getting clean which unfortunately she seemingly never wanted to do.
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Post by Fade on Dec 19, 2017 17:58:36 GMT -5
I get them not mentioning Chyna. I get the hypocrisy in mentioning Moolah. Again, WWE comes off as hypocritical and moronic. Their PR corporate days are going to look so cringey in the future...just mention Medusa, Ivory, Trish, Lita, etc
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 19, 2017 18:21:44 GMT -5
The problem with Moolah is almost everything is hearsay, literally decades removed from the present. I have absolutely zero doubt that it's true, and Moolah deserves to be confined to the same black hole as the Buck Zumhofes of this business, but you have to go digging for the dirt on her. In comparison someone can spend 10 seconds Googling on their phone and find photos and videos of Chyna getting railed by a Vince McMahon look-a-like. As long as that can happen she'll never get the recognition she deserves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 18:28:24 GMT -5
The real shame is that Mildred Burke never gets mentioned despite the current direction of women’s wrestling owing a lot more to her than Moolah’s bullshit hair mares and so forth.
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