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Post by psychokiller on Dec 19, 2017 21:40:05 GMT -5
I guess it comes down to money & getting exposure most of the time? 90% of the time anyone that signs with WWE, they usually aren’t even used right & just don’t have any momentum at all. Styles is an exception since he’s probably the best in the world currently. But supposedly Ricochet for instance is signing with WWE, but I just don’t get why since the odds are he’s just going to be an afterthought & not do much at all while in the company. It’s just a repeating pattern of hardly anyone being used right.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 19, 2017 21:47:28 GMT -5
In short - In slightly longer - Money, stability, publicity, and cache. It also can offer some extra opportunities that can give talent something to do outside of the wrestling bubble. How one is being used by creative is probably less of a worry to most people when concerned with whether they'll cover their bills and/or have future jobs lined up. It's possible to make a life on the indy scene, but it takes a special kind of grind and hustle to make it. A lot of people don't want to deal with all that.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2017 21:48:28 GMT -5
I guess it comes down to money & getting exposure most of the time? 90% of the time anyone that signs with WWE, they usually aren’t even used right & just don’t have any momentum at all. Styles is an exception since he’s probably the best in the world currently. But supposedly Ricochet for instance is signing with WWE, but I just don’t get why since the odds are he’s just going to be an afterthought & not do much at all while in the company. It’s just a repeating pattern of hardly anyone being used right. In Ricochet’s case, what is he going to do elsewhere? He wanted out of Lucha Underground, TNA is a giant pit, New Japan he’s never going to be anything other than a Junior.
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Post by RedSmile on Dec 19, 2017 21:51:54 GMT -5
Guys like Ricochet are betting on themselves that their talent will speak for itself. Plus, he gets a shot at being on Wrestlemania, which is every wrestlers goal, I'm sure.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 19, 2017 21:56:06 GMT -5
Money, fame, protection if injured, wanting to be in WWE and work Wrestlemania, touring the world, not giving a shit about being "used right", being home/not in Japan or the UK most of the time, and/or having one last place to go before calling it a career.
Those just off the top of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 21:57:30 GMT -5
To (badly, probably) paraphrase a quote from CM Punk around the time he signed.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 19, 2017 21:58:20 GMT -5
Hmmm I can either have the opportunity to earn a steady paycheck and have the opportunity to become a big star on tv or I can rassle in dilapidated churches basements.
Not everybody is the Young Bucks and can make a living by hustling shirts and most people struggle in the indies. Adam Cole has been ROH champion more times than anyone and he couldn't wait to get a developmental deal.
There's still a big discrepancy between WWE and the competition. New Japan pays good but Karl Anderson admitted on the Jericho podcast that traveling back and forth to Japan took a toll on him and his family.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2017 22:00:03 GMT -5
Money, recognition, plus, let's be honest: having a toy of yourself and being in a video game would be pretty awesome. It makes me hope NJPW's expansion attempts involve getting a toy deal sometime.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Dec 19, 2017 22:07:33 GMT -5
Money, exposure, and the fact that WWE will pay for your surgery if you get hurt in their ring. Good luck if you get hurt on the indies.
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Post by abjordans on Dec 19, 2017 22:15:32 GMT -5
I guess it comes down to money & getting exposure most of the time? 90% of the time anyone that signs with WWE, they usually aren’t even used right & just don’t have any momentum at all. Styles is an exception since he’s probably the best in the world currently. But supposedly Ricochet for instance is signing with WWE, but I just don’t get why since the odds are he’s just going to be an afterthought & not do much at all while in the company. It’s just a repeating pattern of hardly anyone being used right. Dude, what are you even talking about? Who are these signings being used so terribly? There have been a lot of melodramatic posts lately. Like, seriously, what kind of question is why do pro wrestlers sign with WWE?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 22:21:18 GMT -5
I'd imagine it's still easier to make big money with the WWE than it is with other companies. Which is to say, Luke Harper probably makes more than Dalton Castle. Bobby Roode likely makes more than Kota Ibushi. Just because you aren't a main eventer in WWE doesn't mean you aren't making good money to secure a stable life after wrestling. The Impact Zone probably won't be offering a comparable alternative to WWE in this regard for a long time, and there's only so much room in the upper strata of the NJPW/CMLL/ROH partnership.
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Post by Rican on Dec 19, 2017 22:29:13 GMT -5
Worst case scenario you make a shit ton of money to fall back on and go back to the indies after a few years if you really wanted to.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 19, 2017 22:33:43 GMT -5
To (badly, probably) paraphrase a quote from CM Punk around the time he signed. Funny putting this quote now.Guy saved his money,has a good but regular riszed house and was very unhappy with the way he and others were used by the end(among other things he was unhappy with).But guess that was more about disrespect and dumb decisions than just not being booked right.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 19, 2017 22:35:18 GMT -5
It’s the same reason why first-choice internationals play for teams like Stoke.
Xherdan Shaqiri could go home and play for Basel and compete for a Swiss title and have a shot at the Champions League every year, but the money and exposure from the Premier League trumps that.
For better or worse, the WWE remains the biggest game in town and will still be where people strive towards going.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 19, 2017 22:35:59 GMT -5
I'd imagine it's still easier to make big money with the WWE than it is with other companies. Which is to say, Luke Harper probably makes more than Dalton Castle. Bobby Roode likely makes more than Kota Ibushi. Just because you aren't a main eventer in WWE doesn't mean you aren't making good money to secure a stable life after wrestling. The Impact Zone probably won't be offering a comparable alternative to WWE in this regard for a long time, and there's only so much room in the upper strata of the NJPW/CMLL/ROH partnership. Isn't Kota Ibushi a big f***ing deal in Japan? I assume he gets more/same than Bobby
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 19, 2017 23:06:55 GMT -5
Also if you get used enough in WWE, that helps get your name out there a bit when you return to the indys, like James Ellsworth. Still sad he's gone, but he's handling it like a pro and getting some good press from it. Considering how most of his year in WWE went, that's not so bad.
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Post by psychokiller on Dec 19, 2017 23:10:03 GMT -5
I guess it comes down to money & getting exposure most of the time? 90% of the time anyone that signs with WWE, they usually aren’t even used right & just don’t have any momentum at all. Styles is an exception since he’s probably the best in the world currently. But supposedly Ricochet for instance is signing with WWE, but I just don’t get why since the odds are he’s just going to be an afterthought & not do much at all while in the company. It’s just a repeating pattern of hardly anyone being used right. Dude, what are you even talking about? Who are these signings being used so terribly? There have been a lot of melodramatic posts lately. Like, seriously, what kind of question is why do pro wrestlers sign with WWE? About 80% of the current roster are complete afterthoughts. Who outside of Styles, The Shield, Braun, Owens, The Bar, New Day & veterans/ part timers are actually used good or decent? Balor is doing nothing these days & supposedly Vince doesn’t see much in him anymore. Nakamura almost feels like he hasn’t even been there for the past few months, Zayn got his heel turn but he loses almost every match still. Wyatt has been booked like a huge jobber & isn’t a threat. Matt finally turned broken but it’s going to be a much more watered down version of the character. Who on the roster is actually used good? There’s a reason why guys like Neville, Barrett, Swagger & Cody want/wanted to leave.
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Post by psychokiller on Dec 19, 2017 23:17:56 GMT -5
I'd imagine it's still easier to make big money with the WWE than it is with other companies. Which is to say, Luke Harper probably makes more than Dalton Castle. Bobby Roode likely makes more than Kota Ibushi. Just because you aren't a main eventer in WWE doesn't mean you aren't making good money to secure a stable life after wrestling. The Impact Zone probably won't be offering a comparable alternative to WWE in this regard for a long time, and there's only so much room in the upper strata of the NJPW/CMLL/ROH partnership. I guess a lot of it comes down to how content they are in their position with the company. Like Ziggler for example, he’s highly likely never going to be in a bigger position than as a mid card talent. A lot of these guys waste their primes as being used as low carders/mid carders so it comes down to whether they’re okay with that & to make the money or to go elsewhere & try to make a name for themselves to prove WWE wrong. Than there’s guys like Omega & Young Bucks that have the luxury of never needing WWE to make a good living & having a nice spot on the shows they’re on.
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Post by abjordans on Dec 19, 2017 23:27:33 GMT -5
Dude, what are you even talking about? Who are these signings being used so terribly? There have been a lot of melodramatic posts lately. Like, seriously, what kind of question is why do pro wrestlers sign with WWE? About 80% of the current roster are complete afterthoughts. Who outside of Styles, The Shield, Braun, Owens, The Bar, New Day & veterans/ part timers are actually used good or decent? Balor is doing nothing these days & supposedly Vince doesn’t see much in him anymore. Nakamura almost feels like he hasn’t even been there for the past few months, Zayn got his heel turn but he loses almost every match still. Wyatt has been booked like a huge jobber & isn’t a threat. Matt finally turned broken but it’s going to be a much more watered down version of the character. Who on the roster is actually used good? There’s a reason why guys like Neville, Barrett, Swagger & Cody want/wanted to leave. I mean, this is subjective I guess, because everyone you named is used prominently. The Hardy/Wyatt program is the hottest in the company, if it is watered down remains to be seen. Joe is used well, Roode can't complain about the way he has been booked he is over as hell. The only guy I think has a real complaint is Nakamura, and even still he may get a WM main event. What, do you expect these people to just be artist? You seem to really mean "why do they sign with WWE instead of do what entertains me more". You have to understand why they really sign with WWE, right?
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Post by DJ Maniak on Dec 19, 2017 23:41:01 GMT -5
Money, recognition, plus, let's be honest: having a toy of yourself and being in a video game would be pretty awesome. It makes me hope NJPW's expansion attempts involve getting a toy deal sometime. Came in to post this verbatim.
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