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Post by thegame415 on Jan 3, 2018 17:33:45 GMT -5
WWE/F obviously did, and were acknowledged as a competitor.
What about ECW? Does anyone know of any mentions of it?
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Post by agent817 on Jan 3, 2018 17:47:50 GMT -5
When Mike Awesome debuted, he was referred to as the ECW World Heavyweight champion. That's all I can think of at the moment.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 3, 2018 17:48:39 GMT -5
When they became desperate yes.
The announcers recognized Mike Awesome as the ECW champion when he debuted. Dreamer also said on the Steve Austin podcast that Bischoff called him to plan an ECW invasion on WCW, he told Heyman the plans but Paul rejected it telling Tommy that Vince would go crazy if that were to happen. At that moment Dreamer suspected that Heyman was in Vince's pocket.
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Post by cjh on Jan 3, 2018 18:28:48 GMT -5
When they became desperate yes. The announcers recognized Mike Awesome as the ECW champion when he debuted. Dreamer also said on the Steve Austin podcast that Bischoff called him to plan an ECW invasion on WCW, he told Heyman the plans but Paul rejected it telling Tommy that Vince would go crazy if that were to happen. At that moment Dreamer suspected that Heyman was in Vince's pocket. Was that a separate situation from Heyman catching Tod Gordon talking to Terry Taylor in 1997 about Gordon, Bill Alfonso, Sandman, and a few others jumping ship to do an invasion angle in WCW? Dreamer has mentioned that he, Bubba Ray Dudley, and Taz went to Heyman's house, and Heyman played them the phone messages between Gordon and Taylor talking about it. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 3, 2018 18:35:55 GMT -5
Raven mentioned that DDP got signed to the big leagues while Raven languished in "barbed wire city" which I guess meant ECW.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:51:28 GMT -5
Raven mentioned that DDP got signed to the big leagues while Raven languished in "barbed wire city" which I guess meant ECW. Stretching, but Public Enemy saying they were going to take someone to the EXTREME next week on Nitro. More direct? In one of the NWO announce booth takeover moments, Eric Bischoff is talking about how he can buy out anyone in wrestling. Hall or Nash ask what about ECW, leading to Hall joking "The sweet thing is you can play bingo and watch wrestling at the same time!" |
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 3, 2018 18:54:15 GMT -5
When Ric Flair became "President of WCW" in early 1999, he threatened a wrestler (it's been nearly 20 years, I forget which one) with termination, saying there were two other wrestling promotions he could go wrestle for. Bobby Heenan quipped that he didn't even know there WERE two other companies, which I took as a direct shot at ECW.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 3, 2018 19:13:04 GMT -5
When they became desperate yes. The announcers recognized Mike Awesome as the ECW champion when he debuted. Dreamer also said on the Steve Austin podcast that Bischoff called him to plan an ECW invasion on WCW, he told Heyman the plans but Paul rejected it telling Tommy that Vince would go crazy if that were to happen. At that moment Dreamer suspected that Heyman was in Vince's pocket. Was that a separate situation from Heyman catching Tod Gordon talking to Terry Taylor in 1997 about Gordon, Bill Alfonso, Sandman, and a few others jumping ship to do an invasion angle in WCW? Dreamer has mentioned that he, Bubba Ray Dudley, and Taz went to Heyman's house, and Heyman played them the phone messages between Gordon and Taylor talking about it. No that was Tod's friends jumping at wcw once their contracts were up, when Bischoff called Dreamer he pitched that both companies worked together, like when ecw appeared on raw in 96. |
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Post by cjh on Jan 3, 2018 19:20:31 GMT -5
Was that a separate situation from Heyman catching Tod Gordon talking to Terry Taylor in 1997 about Gordon, Bill Alfonso, Sandman, and a few others jumping ship to do an invasion angle in WCW? Dreamer has mentioned that he, Bubba Ray Dudley, and Taz went to Heyman's house, and Heyman played them the phone messages between Gordon and Taylor talking about it. No that was Tod's friends jumping at wcw once their contracts were up, when Bischoff called Dreamer he pitched that both companies worked together, like when ecw appeared on raw in 96. I was referencing the "mole" thing from 1997. Sandman was supposedly one of the guys involved, but he didn't jump to WCW until a year later. Bill Alfonso was definitely involved, and he was with ECW almost to the end. Gordon made it sound like (on Heyman's WWE DVD) that Public Enemy was involved, but they left for WCW almost 2 years before whatever happened between Gordon and Heyman. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 3, 2018 21:02:46 GMT -5
Raven mentioned that DDP got signed to the big leagues while Raven languished in "barbed wire city" which I guess meant ECW. Stretching, but Public Enemy saying they were going to take someone to the EXTREME next week on Nitro. More direct? In one of the NWO announce booth takeover moments, Eric Bischoff is talking about how he can buy out anyone in wrestling. Hall or Nash ask what about ECW, leading to Hall joking "The sweet thing is you can play bingo and watch wrestling at the same time!" Oh, Scotty. You'd be wrestling there in a couple of years. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 3, 2018 21:33:03 GMT -5
Pretty much everything existed in WCW canon because they treated wrestling like a sport. When someone debuted, they were treated like a new free agent signing rather than a new character. I can't think of many moments, particularly in Bischoff's time, that they didn't expect you to at least be aware of a guy's history with other promotions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:36:22 GMT -5
Pretty much all wrestling exists in the same canon.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 3, 2018 22:36:40 GMT -5
Did they bring it up at all during the later-day Flair/Douglas feud?
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Post by abjordans on Jan 3, 2018 23:24:32 GMT -5
Pretty much everything existed in WCW canon because they treated wrestling like a sport. When someone debuted, they were treated like a new free agent signing rather than a new character. I can't think of many moments, particularly in Bischoff's time, that they didn't expect you to at least be aware of a guy's history with other promotions. Isn’t this how wrestling has always been prior to 80s WWF, and has gone back to being today? |
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Post by agent817 on Jan 3, 2018 23:27:50 GMT -5
Pretty much all wrestling exists in the same canon. Well, in ECW, they freely mentioned WCW and the WWF. I remember in the WWF, they mentioned WCW in a somewhat vague sense. |
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Post by DJ Maniak on Jan 3, 2018 23:30:07 GMT -5
Pretty much all wrestling exists in the same canon. Well, in ECW, they freely mentioned WCW and the WWF. I remember in the WWF, they mentioned WCW in a somewhat vague sense. Like they do with New Japan and IMPACT now. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 4, 2018 10:23:38 GMT -5
Raven mentioned that DDP got signed to the big leagues while Raven languished in "barbed wire city" which I guess meant ECW. Stretching, but Public Enemy saying they were going to take someone to the EXTREME next week on Nitro. More direct? In one of the NWO announce booth takeover moments, Eric Bischoff is talking about how he can buy out anyone in wrestling. Hall or Nash ask what about ECW, leading to Hall joking "The sweet thing is you can play bingo and watch wrestling at the same time!" I was going to post it being mentioned by name during one of the NWO announce booth takeovers too. I believe Bischoff replied with something along the lines of, “Anybody got three dollars?” and then they all laughed. |
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jan 4, 2018 11:14:16 GMT -5
Didn't they refer to ECW as "independent organization in Philadelphia"?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 4, 2018 11:17:05 GMT -5
I think they were going to have a relatjonship similar to what SMW had with WCW. Theg did have a talent exchange with Cactus Jack going to ECW and I think Sabu did some WCW shows in 1993? Anyway it be wr go the ppv stage abecause Heyman nixed it. Gordon seemingly was in favor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 20:14:14 GMT -5
Pretty much all wrestling exists in the same canon. Well, in ECW, they freely mentioned WCW and the WWF. I remember in the WWF, they mentioned WCW in a somewhat vague sense. What I mean is that it's all one "universe". For example, Hulk Hogan is a multi time WWE Champion. No matter what organization you are watching, this is true. Rey Mysterio in Lucha Underground is the same Rey Mysterio from Mexico, ECW, WCW, and WWE. Chris Jericho in NJPW is Chris Jericho from WCW and WWE. AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Gallows, and Anderson are all still former Bullet Club guys and this is acknowledged. The history of a wrestler is never erased, unless they are playing a new character like when Isaac Yankem became Kane or something like that. The only example ever I can think of where wrestling didn't share canon, was in the early days of ROH and TNA. TNA would have guys that were arch enemies in ROH as tag partners and friends on their show. |
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