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Post by fg on Jan 3, 2018 23:29:20 GMT -5
I have the anthology version of this event and I think that the Warriors/Heenan Family match is great. Here are some moments
Since Tully got fired, Bobby Heenan took his place. Gorilla was upset at this but you know if Heenan was a face, Gorilla would have no problem with this and would have praised him.
Since Andre got eliminated in the first few seconds and that Bobby Heena was on the team, the heels were REALLY screwed
Gorilla won't not even acknowledge Bobby as a participant and if the match was three-on-three, Jesse would say "So in your mind it's 3-2?" Gorilla's funny response would be "Absolutely." Jesse "Really?" Gorilla "ABSOLUTELY" Gorilla was hilarious here.
Gorilla gets upset when Bobby refused to be tagged in.
When Bobby tagged in, kicked his opponent a few times and tagged out, Jesse said "He did his damage." Gorilla "Did what?" Jesse "Kicked him in the guts."
Jesse accused Gorilla of leading the crowd in chants of "Weasel! Weasel!" Jesse "Pay attention and do your job."
And the coup de grace, Bobby getting squashed by the Ultimate Warrior.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 4, 2018 3:00:06 GMT -5
You didn't even mention that in the record books, Bobby Heenan eliminated Marty Janetty.
Hell it even worked as a way to write out both Brainbusters, with Tully's no show and Arn getting progressively more annoyed at Bobby contributing absolutely nothing to the team.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 4, 2018 7:50:17 GMT -5
I loved how it started with a fracas, and Warrior wasn't even out from backstage yet.
He then runs out and knocks out cold the biggest monster in wrestling.
It really sold me on his clotheslines, because if a few can knock out Andre the Giant, what must it do to a normal sized wrestler?!
- I also loved the ridiculous chemistry between Jim Neidhart and Warrior.
Why were the Harts split up anyway?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 4, 2018 10:19:35 GMT -5
It was attempt #2 at a Bret solo run.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jan 4, 2018 12:21:01 GMT -5
This is my favourite PPV ever and although it’s one of the few shows from the 80s where Hogan wasn’t in the final match, the decision to put this on last makes sense (especially as Hogan’s match has so many DQs in it). Arn’s spinebuster was always great to see but the one he hits on Shawn here is a thing of beauty.
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Post by Aceorton on Jan 4, 2018 13:46:27 GMT -5
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I've always considered this an extremely underwhelming finale and a weak attraction in general.
- You knew from the second they announced the match that Neidhart wouldn't be surviving. It would have made far more sense and strengthened the storyline to have Hercules on Warrior's team instead of Neidhart (since Herc was a bigger singles star and had his own issues with the Heenan Family over the previous year). Then the Harts and Rockers can stay together on their respective teams, and Bret's singles push (whatever was to come of it) develops out of his performance in the Savage match.
- Tully's firing/quitting was bad enough for weakening the Heenan side ... so why get rid of Andre so fast on top of it? If his back is hurting him, at least leave him on the apron for a while to keep up the illusion of the Heenan team being a threat.
- Haku and Arn really worked their tails off, to be fair.
- What would they have done if Heenan hadn't been able to work in the ring that night? Brought back Rude for double duty? That could have been an interesting wrinkle, actually. The infighting and Tully's absence means Rude, who's exhausted from the Piper match earlier, has to come back and wrestle again and is pissed at everyone because of it.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 4, 2018 14:40:49 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels really did well during that match.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 5, 2018 6:14:44 GMT -5
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I've always considered this an extremely underwhelming finale and a weak attraction in general. - You knew from the second they announced the match that Neidhart wouldn't be surviving. It would have made far more sense and strengthened the storyline to have Hercules on Warrior's team instead of Neidhart (since Herc was a bigger singles star and had his own issues with the Heenan Family over the previous year). Then the Harts and Rockers can stay together on their respective teams, and Bret's singles push (whatever was to come of it) develops out of his performance in the Savage match. - Tully's firing/quitting was bad enough for weakening the Heenan side ... so why get rid of Andre so fast on top of it? If his back is hurting him, at least leave him on the apron for a while to keep up the illusion of the Heenan team being a threat. - Haku and Arn really worked their tails off, to be fair. - What would they have done if Heenan hadn't been able to work in the ring that night? Brought back Rude for double duty? That could have been an interesting wrinkle, actually. The infighting and Tully's absence means Rude, who's exhausted from the Piper match earlier, has to come back and wrestle again and is pissed at everyone because of it. Maybe, but it had a purpose, to get Warrior over as a mega face with some big moments, I think it accomplished them. Main event, knocking out the Giant in 10 seconds, sole survivor, eliminated 3/4 of the other team, gets to humiliate Bobby Heenan. I think it put him in a perfect position heading into the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2018 0:27:35 GMT -5
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I've always considered this an extremely underwhelming finale and a weak attraction in general. - You knew from the second they announced the match that Neidhart wouldn't be surviving. It would have made far more sense and strengthened the storyline to have Hercules on Warrior's team instead of Neidhart (since Herc was a bigger singles star and had his own issues with the Heenan Family over the previous year). Then the Harts and Rockers can stay together on their respective teams, and Bret's singles push (whatever was to come of it) develops out of his performance in the Savage match. - Tully's firing/quitting was bad enough for weakening the Heenan side ... so why get rid of Andre so fast on top of it? If his back is hurting him, at least leave him on the apron for a while to keep up the illusion of the Heenan team being a threat. - Haku and Arn really worked their tails off, to be fair. - What would they have done if Heenan hadn't been able to work in the ring that night? Brought back Rude for double duty? That could have been an interesting wrinkle, actually. The infighting and Tully's absence means Rude, who's exhausted from the Piper match earlier, has to come back and wrestle again and is pissed at everyone because of it. I think one of Andre's conditions for putting over Warrior was he was only going to be out there for like 30 seconds max or the least amount of time as humanly possible. |
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