AlexaBliss4Life
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jan 4, 2018 14:20:14 GMT -5
"I would try to figure out a way if there's one more run in CM Punk. And 'one more run' to me means this: a WrestleMania, not 10, not two, not three, a WrestleMania. "Start with let's build to the right build and the crescendo is WrestleMania. And the only other way I'd do him is have him return at WrestleMania and not be on television. "Sign, train, vignettes, vignettes, little angle, boom. His first match is WrestleMania. Yeah, that way there's no pressure on anybody." I'm all for bringing Punk back in, but this would be the worst way of doing it. Punk coming back to Raw, in Detroit? That could be magical. And building a feud or "little angle" when the guy doesn't even show up? Ask Bray Wyatt how well that worked with the Undertaker. I'm not saying he needs to work house shows or anything, but if you're bringing Punk back it needs to be better than that. To be fair, we don't know how his body is right now, so JR could be on to something there. |
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 4, 2018 15:00:02 GMT -5
Punk didn't walk out, he flew to the show and spoke to Vince. He virtually got permission to leave. There was nothing unprofessional about it. Plus, his contract was up in what....June/July? So what would we/WWE really have gotten, had Punk stuck around to fulfill his entire contract? Probably a match at the February ppv with Kane, which he would have lost due to Authority interference, setting up the match with Triple H. The match at WM with Trips, which, despite their telling him that Punk would have won, I seriously doubt that would have been the case, especially if they knew Punk was leaving. And then what? 2-3 months of him piddly farting around, waiting for his contract to run out, while we all complained about Punk "phoning it in" every week. Plus, Punk being involved with that WM would have denied Daniel Bryan his big WM victories, which, by that point, was what we wanted to see more than a Punk/Triple H match that didn't mean crap in 2014 (2011, yes, but not 2014). Punk actually made the best decision for all parties by just walking away (well, except for Trips, who probably wanted to bust one more on Punk's forehead on his way out of the company). |
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 4, 2018 15:06:00 GMT -5
New Ram GM: CM Punk Fans: OH MY GOD, THIS IS GREAT 2 months later.... Fans: Man, this shit is still going on. I mean, I think the Rams like the GM they have right now. Easy for ewe to say. |
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 4, 2018 15:07:29 GMT -5
AJ enters the Women's Rumble from a surprise number 30. Everyone flips out and assumes it means they've buried the hatchet with Punk too. 3 hours of anticipation later, number 30 counts down in the men's match...IT'S CM PUNK! The crowd goes wild! You've never seen anything like this before! People are crying with joy! Cole weeps at how twitter has crashed! Booker says Punk is looking real jacked baby. He's in the best shape of his life as he announces that clobbering time is upon us.
Kane eliminates him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 15:15:17 GMT -5
AJ enters the Women's Rumble from a surprise number 30. Everyone flips out and assumes it means they've buried the hatchet with Punk too. 3 hours of anticipation later, number 30 counts down in the men's match...IT'S CM PUNK! The crowd goes wild! You've never seen anything like this before! People are crying with joy! Cole weeps at how twitter has crashed! Booker says Punk is looking real jacked baby. He's in the best shape of his life as he announces that clobbering time is upon us. Kane eliminates him. Kane eliminates AJ too. |
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Post by repomark on Jan 4, 2018 15:23:02 GMT -5
Punk didn't walk out, he flew to the show and spoke to Vince. He virtually got permission to leave. There was nothing unprofessional about it. I don’t really know the ins and outs of the conversations they had, but I very much doubt that he got Vince’s blessing just judging by how Punk was regarded immediately after his departure by WWE (even before the whole doctor stuff). He may have agreed to let him walk - but he was by no means happy about it. Punk was advertised to appear that night then didn’t - which is in my view unprofessional. Furthermore, given Punk had been heavily promoted as an attraction at Wrestlemania (his Axxess appearance was already sold out) to me the professional thing to do would be to see out the contract or at the very least leave after Mania season. I don’t know the details of his contract of course - which I don’t think any of us do in detail - but he failed to see it out and terminated it prematurely and abruptly. That is why in my view it remains unprofessional. I fully agree that the independent contractor loophole exploited by WWE is utter nonsense and heinous, but I didn’t think that had anything to do with Punk’s reason for departing (at least initially). I do hope Punk comes back, I just don’t think he covered himself in glory in this whole thing. |
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Jan 4, 2018 15:54:48 GMT -5
AJ enters the Women's Rumble from a surprise number 30. Everyone flips out and assumes it means they've buried the hatchet with Punk too. 3 hours of anticipation later, number 30 counts down in the men's match...IT'S CM PUNK! The crowd goes wild! You've never seen anything like this before! People are crying with joy! Cole weeps at how twitter has crashed! Booker says Punk is looking real jacked baby. He's in the best shape of his life as he announces that clobbering time is upon us. Kane eliminates him. Correction...Roman eliminates him despite not being in the rumble |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 4, 2018 16:12:05 GMT -5
Punk didn't walk out, he flew to the show and spoke to Vince. He virtually got permission to leave. There was nothing unprofessional about it. I don’t really know the ins and outs of the conversations they had, but I very much doubt that he got Vince’s blessing just judging by how Punk was regarded immediately after his departure by WWE (even before the whole doctor stuff). He may have agreed to let him walk - but he was by no means happy about it. Punk was advertised to appear that night then didn’t - which is in my view unprofessional. Furthermore, given Punk had been heavily promoted as an attraction at Wrestlemania (his Axxess appearance was already sold out) to me the professional thing to do would be to see out the contract or at the very least leave after Mania season. I don’t know the details of his contract of course - which I don’t think any of us do in detail - but he failed to see it out and terminated it prematurely and abruptly. That is why in my view it remains unprofessional. Health concerns trump Vince's blessing, advertised appearances, or working through Mania season. MRSA is nothing to f*** around with, especially when the doctor who ultimately treated Punk told him he should be dead after ignoring it for so long. |
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Post by repomark on Jan 4, 2018 16:17:54 GMT -5
I don’t really know the ins and outs of the conversations they had, but I very much doubt that he got Vince’s blessing just judging by how Punk was regarded immediately after his departure by WWE (even before the whole doctor stuff). He may have agreed to let him walk - but he was by no means happy about it. Punk was advertised to appear that night then didn’t - which is in my view unprofessional. Furthermore, given Punk had been heavily promoted as an attraction at Wrestlemania (his Axxess appearance was already sold out) to me the professional thing to do would be to see out the contract or at the very least leave after Mania season. I don’t know the details of his contract of course - which I don’t think any of us do in detail - but he failed to see it out and terminated it prematurely and abruptly. That is why in my view it remains unprofessional. Health concerns trump Vince's blessing, advertised appearances, or working through Mania season. MRSA is nothing to f*** around with, especially when the doctor who ultimately treated Punk told him he should be dead after ignoring it for so long. Absolutely, but as I understood it the health issues were not the reason for him walking out initially and that came to light further down the line. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 4, 2018 16:23:51 GMT -5
Here's how you bring him back.
1- Punk's music hits
2- Fans go apeshit
That's it.
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Post by Fade on Jan 4, 2018 16:38:54 GMT -5
I don't think he's making a proper return ever again, more like a Legends, unsteady alliance thing. Probably in part if WWE offers to induct AJ Lee into the HOF.
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Post by MAD TITAN on Jan 4, 2018 16:45:11 GMT -5
Have John Cena (and Nikki Bella) sit ringside at Punk's UFC fight and conduct an interview. When Punk walks by, have Cena ask him "You wanna do it?" The interview gets posted to youtube. Three years later, there's a match for Wrestlemania. I'm just laughing at this because John Cena at an MMA event is hilarious alone. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 4, 2018 17:06:40 GMT -5
Health concerns trump Vince's blessing, advertised appearances, or working through Mania season. MRSA is nothing to f*** around with, especially when the doctor who ultimately treated Punk told him he should be dead after ignoring it for so long. Absolutely, but as I understood it the health issues were not the reason for him walking out initially and that came to light further down the line. Then you're simply not understanding. You're making it out like his health had no effect on his decision. In the final months with the company he performed with the MRSA infection, broken ribs, a knee injury that required surgery, and had several concussions, all of which combined to make his life miserable whether at home or on the road. Every time he asked for time off to heal up he was given the old "Just work through it, we'll owe you one" line (plus a mountain of Z-Packs for the Z-Pack-resistant MRSA). In the end he felt he couldn't go on, and the company didn't give the old school workhorse in him a reason to continue working after all his contractual obligations had been met. So yes, while the booking might have been the final straw, the health issues were the primary reason for his decision. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 4, 2018 17:47:28 GMT -5
Health concerns trump Vince's blessing, advertised appearances, or working through Mania season. MRSA is nothing to f*** around with, especially when the doctor who ultimately treated Punk told him he should be dead after ignoring it for so long. Absolutely, but as I understood it the health issues were not the reason for him walking out initially and that came to light further down the line. the dude was so sick he was shitting his pants mid match, he had a gross green lump on his ass which he'd been begging the doctor to get rid of for months, he had broken ribs and an injured hip because they let some sloppy gashead throw him off a 10 foot platform onto concrete, and he had a concussion they wanted to clear him from because he was too important to lose despite feuding with who-gives-a-shit Corporate Kane. It was health related. |
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 4, 2018 19:05:07 GMT -5
It begins and ends with HHH.
He has to apologize to him because he was offended when he walked out on the WWE.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 4, 2018 19:07:16 GMT -5
It begins and ends with HHH. He has to apologize to him because he was offended when he walked out on the WWE. They'd also have to fire Chris Amann, if they haven't already. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 4, 2018 19:17:24 GMT -5
It begins and ends with HHH. He has to apologize to him because he was offended when he walked out on the WWE. They'd also have to fire Chris Amann, if they haven't already. Amann's still there and his lawsuit against Punk and Cabana is still ongoing, and reportedly on WWE's dime. As long as that is the case, Punk's not coming back. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 19:17:26 GMT -5
Hold on...
the hell?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 4, 2018 19:23:24 GMT -5
Punk didn't walk out, he flew to the show and spoke to Vince. He virtually got permission to leave. There was nothing unprofessional about it. I don’t really know the ins and outs of the conversations they had, but I very much doubt that he got Vince’s blessing just judging by how Punk was regarded immediately after his departure by WWE (even before the whole doctor stuff). He may have agreed to let him walk - but he was by no means happy about it. Punk was advertised to appear that night then didn’t - which is in my view unprofessional. Furthermore, given Punk had been heavily promoted as an attraction at Wrestlemania (his Axxess appearance was already sold out) to me the professional thing to do would be to see out the contract or at the very least leave after Mania season. I don’t know the details of his contract of course - which I don’t think any of us do in detail - but he failed to see it out and terminated it prematurely and abruptly. That is why in my view it remains unprofessional. I fully agree that the independent contractor loophole exploited by WWE is utter nonsense and heinous, but I didn’t think that had anything to do with Punk’s reason for departing (at least initially). I do hope Punk comes back, I just don’t think he covered himself in glory in this whole thing. He'd already fulfilled his appearances portion of his contract. WWE contracts are for however many years and however many appearances. So essentially, if they use up all your contracted appearances by overbooking you, you may legally be able to sit at home for the remainder of your contract. He didn't owe them anything at that point. And by going to the building and having a meeting with Vince, he handled his business professionally. I know he comes off like a prick, but in regards to his leaving, he was completely justified. The guy was sick and wanted time away to get it sorted out. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 4, 2018 19:25:29 GMT -5
Yeah No Pressure it's just the biggest show of the year and all... |
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