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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 12:35:11 GMT -5
I know this was often done to protect some people, but I always was confused with how loosey goosey they were. It sounds like a simple concept, especially the eliminations, but they often made exceptions.
I was trying to write up additional factoids for the Rumble one year & noticed these instances, such as...
1989: Hogan, after being eliminated, throws out Big Bossman & beats him up. Tunney doesn't let Bossman back in, despite Ventura's protests.
1992: Theoretically, Savage should have been eliminated after diving on Jake "the Snake" Roberts.
1996: Vader tosses out half the Rumble after his elimination, but everyone is let back in. This was after the Headhunters (aka The Squat Team) team up after one was tossed out.
1997: This doesn't apply to the Rumble itself but the aftermath, & I know why, but technically Fake Diesel was one of the final four, the basis for the In Your House a few weeks later.
Any other cases?
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Post by fw91 on Jan 13, 2018 12:38:19 GMT -5
2008-Finlay is DQ'd
2010- MVP is allowed in despite not making the ring until after the next entrant made it.
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Post by Stu on Jan 13, 2018 12:39:04 GMT -5
There's no disqualification in the Royal Rumble. Anything goes .....
..... Finlay has been disqualified.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 12:45:16 GMT -5
There's no disqualification in the Royal Rumble. Anything goes ..... ..... Finlay has been disqualified. Oh, here's another one. 2003: Tommy Dreamer brings in hardcore weapons. The referees scramble to get them away from everybody like modern WWE games. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 13, 2018 12:47:03 GMT -5
2008-Finlay is DQ'd 2010- MVP is allowed in despite not making the ring until after the next entrant made it. Im not sure that last one was actually a rule. If it were, then they broke it in 2001 when Austin but got the shit kicked out of him by Triple H as he tried to enter at 27 and laid bloody in the aisleway until Rikishi entered at 30. |
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Post by msc on Jan 13, 2018 13:06:11 GMT -5
The rules are the rules and the rules are fluid depending on the year!
Only two of them really annoyed me (the Macho/Jake one clearly being to cover an error by Savage)...
1. The "can't enter if next person comes out" thing. I dislike 29 men entering only. 1991, 94, 98, the Spike/Scotty stuff in 2004/5.
2. Finlay getting DQ'd. That was stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:14:44 GMT -5
The rules are the rules and the rules are fluid depending on the year! Only two of them really annoyed me (the Macho/Jake one clearly being to cover an error by Savage)... 1. The "can't enter if next person comes out" thing. I dislike 29 men entering only. 1991, 94, 98, the Spike/Scotty stuff in 2004/5. 2. Finlay getting DQ'd. That was stupid. You forgot 2015 with Curtis Axel. |
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Post by msc on Jan 13, 2018 13:32:27 GMT -5
The rules are the rules and the rules are fluid depending on the year! Only two of them really annoyed me (the Macho/Jake one clearly being to cover an error by Savage)... 1. The "can't enter if next person comes out" thing. I dislike 29 men entering only. 1991, 94, 98, the Spike/Scotty stuff in 2004/5. 2. Finlay getting DQ'd. That was stupid. You forgot 2015 with Curtis Axel. Axel got replaced, so it was more like Test in 2004. For me, anyhow. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 13, 2018 14:03:12 GMT -5
What about in 1993 when Giant Gonzalez eliminates Taker despite not officially being in the Rumble? Or does that constitute as since there's no disqualification and thus making the elimination legitimate.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 13, 2018 14:32:09 GMT -5
The rules are the rules and the rules are fluid depending on the year! Only two of them really annoyed me (the Macho/Jake one clearly being to cover an error by Savage)... 1. The "can't enter if next person comes out" thing. I dislike 29 men entering only. 1991, 94, 98, the Spike/Scotty stuff in 2004/5. 2. Finlay getting DQ'd. That was stupid. You forgot 2015 with Curtis Axel. You mean the rightful winner of that Rumble, Curtis Axel. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 13, 2018 14:38:38 GMT -5
There's no disqualification in the Royal Rumble. Anything goes ..... ..... Finlay has been disqualified. I was at that Royal Rumble live and I was making a note on Paper of the Entries and Eliminations, needless to say that messed up my paperwork big time.. I still thought there was one more entry to come after Cena. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 13, 2018 14:43:13 GMT -5
Whatever rules you wish to follow, Scotty 2 Hotty is technically the real winner of the 2005 Royal Rumble.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jan 13, 2018 15:38:00 GMT -5
Vader threw Shawn Michaels over the top rope in the 1996 Rumble but that elimination didn’t count since Vader had already been eliminated.
Yet in 2005 and 2006 Shawn Michals was eliminated by Angle and Shane (one was already eliminated and the other wasn’t even in the match) yet those eliminations counted.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Jan 13, 2018 15:54:45 GMT -5
I know this was often done to protect some people, but I always was confused with how loosey goosey they were. It sounds like a simple concept, especially the eliminations, but they often made exceptions. I was trying to write up additional factoids for the Rumble one year & noticed these instances, such as... 1989: Hogan, after being eliminated, throws out Big Bossman & beats him up. Tunney doesn't let Bossman back in, despite Ventura's protests. 1992: Theoretically, Savage should have been eliminated after diving on Jake "the Snake" Roberts. 1996: Vader tosses out half the Rumble after his elimination, but everyone is let back in. This was after the Headhunters (aka The Squat Team) team up after one was tossed out. 1997: This doesn't apply to the Rumble itself but the aftermath, & I know why, but technically Fake Diesel was one of the final four, the basis for the In Your House a few weeks later. Any other cases? With 1997, Fake Diesel was eliminated by Bret. An already "eliminated" Austin had nothing to do with his elimination. Austin threw out Taker, Vader and Bret upon returning to the ring. |
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jan 13, 2018 16:13:36 GMT -5
The Model wasn't fairly eliminated from the 1991 Rumble.
He went through the ropes, climbed the corner and was then dropkicked out by Bulldog.
He technically didn't re-enter the ring!
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 13, 2018 16:21:48 GMT -5
You forgot 2015 with Curtis Axel. Axel got replaced, so it was more like Test in 2004. For me, anyhow. No, he wasn't replaced. Erick Rowan wasn't an official participant. |
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jan 13, 2018 16:29:52 GMT -5
What about in 1993 when Giant Gonzalez eliminates Taker despite not officially being in the Rumble? Or does that constitute as since there's no disqualification and thus making the elimination legitimate. You could get away with it by saying Taker abandoned the Rumble to go after Gonzalez once he recovered from the attack. |
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Post by msc on Jan 13, 2018 16:47:07 GMT -5
Axel got replaced, so it was more like Test in 2004. For me, anyhow. No, he wasn't replaced. Erick Rowan wasn't an official participant. The Mabel Precedent makes that more ambigious, though Rowan didn't eliminate anyway so it matters less. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 13, 2018 16:57:46 GMT -5
Obviously it varies from year to year with whatever WWE have planned, but I've always looked at it kayfabe wise that the referees are the ones in charge and they can disqualify somebody if they feel the need to, like Finlay whatever year that was or Scotty Too Hotty was DQ'd the many times he was beaten up before entering.
Also in the 2000 Rumble, Rock hit the ground before Big Show but the referees decided he'd won the match. X Pac went out earlier thanks to Rock but snuck back in to eliminate Kane before being officially eliminated by Big Show.
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Post by mrtumoursmisery on Jan 13, 2018 18:20:03 GMT -5
With 1997, Fake Diesel was eliminated by Bret. An already "eliminated" Austin had nothing to do with his elimination. Austin threw out Taker, Vader and Bret upon returning to the ring. In that case, the In Your House match probably should've been a triple threat match between Bret, Taker, and Vader. They were wrongfully eliminated from the Rumble by Austin, so they deserved a second chance. But, Austin was eliminated from the Rumble fair and square. It doesn't seem right to honor his illegal win by including him in the In Your House match. I don't see the logic in it from a strictly kayfabe perspective. But, that's wrestling for ya. And, the In Your House match was awesome. I wouldn't change a thing about it. |
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