Mr perfects 1993

[hulksmash87]

He left around survivor series in 93 and was back for mania 10 then left shortly afterwards. What we're the plans for him had he stayed? Would he have still turned on Luger at wm 10? Would they have turned him sooner?

[auph10imitated]

I would have to read the Observer again but I think he was unhappy around this point, maybe he would have been used to put newer people over. I think Perfect was over enough at this point to be considered a main event for sure. Perfect and Bret as two top stars would have worked well IMO.

[auph10imitated]

WO Notes

Nov 15th 1993
Mr. Perfect was pulled from all bookings and will be replaced on the road by Bob Backlund. Both sides claim he asked for time off to take care of family problems. No word on if he'll appear at the PPV but most likely one would think he would.

Dec 2nd
There is no indication Mr. Perfect is coming back at any time in the near future. Apparently he was upset at being bypassed for the IC title that he thought was promised him, although in reality Ramon was a lot more popular. He received an offer from WCW to do Clashes and PPVs but not house shows.

Dec 20th
Mr. Perfect has also left the WWF. He's also contacted independent promoters about being available for dates, and has reportedly negotiated with WCW, but the most likely scenario is that he'll be returning to the WWF in the spring or summer.

March 7th 1994
This is not a definite, but they are trying to get Mr. Perfect in as one of the two special refs. WCW wanted Perfect but his Titan contract doesn't run out until December so they can't make a move until then.

[OGBoardPoster2005]

His 1994 is a bit more interesting. He returns at WM X and sorta screws Luger over. He cuts a heel promo on Raw the next night, but leaves again and is not seen til late 1995. My question is, what direction was Perfect going? I figure maybe he'd face Luger at King of the Ring 1994, but then what?

[SmashTV]

The only real memories I have of him at this time are of his KOTR match with Bret and his WM match with Luger. The match with Shawn at Summerslam should and could have been a classic, but there was just something 'off' about it.

I don't know if it was the back injury or possible ring rust, but Perfect just didn't seem as sharp as he had a couple of years back. That said, he was still one of the more talented guys on the roster.

[evilone]

Don't know what was actually going on in their relationship but WWE should have invested in Perfect a lot more. Problem is they never saw him as the New Gen like Bret, Razor, Diesel and Shawn so he gets shuffled down the line much like Macho. I firmly believe had they pushed him into main event scene or gave him some priority he would have never left the company. Instead they banked on Razor who ditched them before they ditched him like they did with Perfect. Macho and Perfect were a sing on the wall for Bret but Bret refused to believe it could happen to him and he also believed he was next Hulk Hogan cause they told him so.

[fw91]

Another thing, why didn't he wrestle in 95-96 when he was with the company? Was he still hurt?

[The Thread Barbi]

I think he should have got Yokozuna's spot as a heel but is aligned with him and Fuji.

- Wins the Royal Rumble
- Challenges and defeats Bret Hart at Wrestlemania for the title after Yokozuna's interference.
- Shenanigans with Hogan to lose the title immediately.
- Wins the title at King of the Ring, again with interference from Yokozuna. Yokozuna crushes Hulk Hogan with multiple banzai drops to write him off.
- Bret Hart challenges him at Summerslam and wins the title in a classic. Bret has Owen Hart in his corner to counter Yokozuna's interference but Owen Hart gets injured by Yokozuna, sowing the seeds of dissent between the Hart brothers.
- Survivor Series and the Royal Rumble stay cannon except for Yokozuna isn't the champion and his battle with Undertaker is monster vs monster, and Luger and Perfect win the Rumble.

[JTG Fan]

Jan 14, 2018 13:38:10 GMT -5 SmashTV said:

I don't know if it was the back injury or possible ring rust, but Perfect just didn't seem as sharp as he had a couple of years back. That said, he was still one of the more talented guys on the roster.

Nobody ever really wants to talk about it but the truth is he just wasn't the same guy after returning, both after his initial return in 1992 (thought he started off pretty good and just kind of deteriorated) and especially after his return in 1997.

[Aceorton]

Jan 14, 2018 8:13:13 GMT -5 auph10imitated said:

WO Notes
Dec 2nd
There is no indication Mr. Perfect is coming back at any time in the near future. Apparently he was upset at being bypassed for the IC title that he thought was promised him, although in reality Ramon was a lot more popular.

This seems so backwards to me that they were dangling the IC in front of him, and that he would have been content with having that. Yes, his skills weren't quite what they had been, but they absolutely had a window in 1993 where he should have been in contention for the WWF title on reputation and crowd reaction alone. From the time he won the loser-leaves-town match on RAW against Flair until the early summer, he was right up there as a top guy.

Having him lose to Luger at WM was the first mistake. Those two shouldn't have been facing each other in the first place. I'd have had Perfect beat Ramon (who was about to turn face anyway) to set up Perfect challenging for the WWF title. Then have Luger steamroll over Backlund to build up Luger better.

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Jan 14, 2018 17:32:41 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Another thing, why didn't he wrestle in 95-96 when he was with the company? Was he still hurt?

I was always under the impression that Perfect had a similar insurance deal to Rick Rude's for a while where he couldn't wrestle or else lose a crap-ton of money in doing so. That said, when he went to WCW he was wrestling quickly and regularly...so maybe not.

[auph10imitated]

Perfect's direction in 1994 was to be programmed with Luger, he broke is toe (yes seems trivial) in early April which delayed his house show loop with Luger to early May, later in April is transpired he needed foot surgery which pushed it back to end of May.

By early May this was posted in the Observer regarding Perfect quitting (again) and really you can kind of blame this for being the downfall of Luger, as Luger vs Perfect was to e the semi final matches on House Shows leading to what I would assume a match at Summerslam, but with Perfect gone Crush took his place, Crush soon left and they rescrambled with the awful Tatanka fued which was the death of Luger in the WWF.

"In addition, there were four no-shows, with only one announced in the building before the show started (Mr. Perfect) and no refunds offered. Perfect was out with a broken foot anyway, but rumor has it that he quit the promotion on Saturday. On Monday Night Raw, Perfect was buried in a manner that suggests he won't be back, with them saying he no-showed his matches because he was afraid of Luger and has been suspended indefinitely, and mentioned that Crush would be replacing him. Randy Savage went on to say how Crush is much tougher than Perfect. Perfect's WWF contract doesn't expire until November or December, although rumor has it he's in the financial position right now where he doesn't need to work"

[Brandon Walsh is Insane.]

Tatanka/Luger was awesome! It was the follow up to the angle that was horrible.

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Jan 18, 2018 15:09:40 GMT -5 Brandon Walsh is Insane. said:

Tatanka/Luger was awesome! It was the follow up to the angle that was horrible.

I recall it being a pretty "holy crap" swerve to have Tatanka be the one who was heel. Probably very played and obvious if I were to look back at it, but I fell for it. I didn't seem to be phased by the heavy handed crap back then..... I was an oblivious lad.

Once the internet opened my eyes like a year or two later, though, those dull clueless edges were sharpened greatly.

[Mozenrath]

Did he have the coke problem yet? Blunt question, but I mean, it's a valid reason they would have been hesitant to get behind him in a big way.

[brody]

Had he gotten the nod to go over Flair instead of Bret, perhaps we get Perfect vs Flair in a Rumble rematch, however for whatever reason I do not see Yoko vs Perfect being as good as what Hart was able to pull off.

[johnnyk9]

there is a Mr.Perfect episode on Something to Wrestle With Bruce Pritchard where he explains a lot of this