Kyn
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Post by Kyn on Jan 15, 2018 21:13:05 GMT -5
Tentative yes - tentative, because my opinion might be influenced by the fact when he has a match I'm seeing it for the first time, as opposed to workers from the past where I'm re-watching matches. He's put in impressive work during a relatively short tenure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:03:14 GMT -5
Since I've been watching, yeah. All time, can't say. Hard to judge what I wasn't around for like Backlund or Bruno.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 16, 2018 1:46:09 GMT -5
What constitutes a worker?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 16, 2018 3:45:39 GMT -5
What constitutes a worker? And more importantly, what constitutes a "top" worker? Strictly from an in-ring sense? A more "all around package" sort of deal? Or top as in most important of the technical wrestlers? Because there's several more guys that could fit a few of those bills, but not necessarily all - DiBiase, Dynamite Kid, Cesaro, Owen, the Steiners, Brock when he gave a damn... |
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Post by axebomber on Jan 16, 2018 9:46:08 GMT -5
I've been a fan since the 80s and prefer the less is more style to matches but I'd still put AJ as a top five talent.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 16, 2018 11:16:16 GMT -5
What constitutes a worker? And more importantly, what constitutes a "top" worker? Strictly from an in-ring sense? A more "all around package" sort of deal? Or top as in most important of the technical wrestlers? Because there's several more guys that could fit a few of those bills, but not necessarily all - DiBiase, Dynamite Kid, Cesaro, Owen, the Steiners, Brock when he gave a damn... This. Plus, if we are saying "worker" and not limiting it to "technical wrestlers" then you have to put guys like Hogan, Austin, guys who were the best at working a crowd. |
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jan 16, 2018 11:30:18 GMT -5
What constitutes a worker? And more importantly, what constitutes a "top" worker? Strictly from an in-ring sense? A more "all around package" sort of deal? Or top as in most important of the technical wrestlers? Because there's several more guys that could fit a few of those bills, but not necessarily all - DiBiase, Dynamite Kid, Cesaro, Owen, the Steiners, Brock when he gave a damn... It can mean whatever you want it to mean. I was mainly thinking of entertainment from an in ring standpoint, but I was just trying to gauge where people ranked AJ in WWE history. The criteria of that ranking is up to you and what you deemed important to be a top wrestler, worker, talent, or whatever label you like. |
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Post by Woo on Jan 16, 2018 12:41:36 GMT -5
1. Bret Hart
2. Kurt Angle
3. Steve Austin
4. Randy Savage
5. HBK
6. Chris Benoit
7. Eddie Guerrero
8. Mick Foley
9. Edge
10. Undertaker
If you are basing this on just his WWE run, then no. Those 10 off the top of my head have had far more memorable matches than AJ. Styles is a better worker than Taker, Edge and Foley but thus far does not have a better body of work.
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Post by avenger on Jan 16, 2018 14:37:29 GMT -5
I think what helps AJ at this point is that not only was he pretty much the complete article when he arrived (unlike guys like Angle, Jericho, Perfect), he didn't have to spend a lot of time in an era where a guy his size had to start in a tag team (unlike Bret and Michaels), or have to fight his way up the card (because Eddie, Benoit, Punk and Bryan had paved the way), and he's young enough that he doesn't have a lesser older run that takes away from his body of work (like Backlund or Flair).
At this point though, I'd say he's in.
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Post by tankisfreemason on Jan 16, 2018 21:03:52 GMT -5
Somewhere out there, Triple H is crying.  “Please Vince, I wanna pedigree him just one time.” |
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Post by tankisfreemason on Jan 16, 2018 21:46:45 GMT -5
He was a top 10 before he came to WWE. Now he’s a top 5.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 17, 2018 7:02:24 GMT -5
Somewhere out there, Triple H is crying. atleast he made it to the Bret Hart's top 100 list |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 17, 2018 7:07:28 GMT -5
AJ's one of the best all-around talents the company's ever signed.
He's also had the benefit of working with some of the best workers in WWE's history along the way. I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 17, 2018 7:45:09 GMT -5
Not yet. He's up there as far as pure in-ring acumen, but he needs a longer tenure and a couple of legendary main events (or at least feuds/storylines) under his belt first.
Right now, his work, skilled as it (and he) is, doesn't mean much to WWE lore.
Given time, he should get that, though.
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Post by benstudd on Jan 17, 2018 18:28:03 GMT -5
Being a good worker is delivering classic matchs and I have not seen one from AJ in the WWE yet. That's because your perspective on classic matches seems to be built more around Hogan/Andre or Austin/HBK showmanship. Nothing against that, but its an observation I had. Anyway, I'd argue yes. On top of that, he's been able to be at the top of the promotion. Most guys in these lists were often sound hands but the company looked elsewhere for star power. Styles has been given that chance. I based that on psychology, plus on all the top matches I've seen in the WWE and of AJ's past work before he went to the WWE. |
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Post by benstudd on Jan 17, 2018 18:30:25 GMT -5
He was a top 10 before he came to WWE. Now he’s a top 5. lol what changed? |
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 17, 2018 18:30:27 GMT -5
I mean, if Koko B. Ware can--oh, wait, sorry. Reflex.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 17, 2018 18:31:17 GMT -5
No, because today's generation of wrestlers demonstrate very little match psychology. It could be that they aren't allowed to show it, but I lean more towards thinking it's simply a lost art. He's a great athlete, but that's not enough.
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Post by tankisfreemason on Jan 24, 2018 6:03:48 GMT -5
He was a top 10 before he came to WWE. Now he’s a top 5. lol what changed? The amount of people watching him, he’s more known. The different match ups he’s been able to have provides a different quality of wrestling on his end. The fact that WWE were able to promote dream matches with him, and he knocked it out of the park each time. |
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jan 24, 2018 7:14:10 GMT -5
Honestly I would say he needs one more year and then it’s a no brainer. He’s had some great matches but I feel like people are putting him on that level when his body of work(in WWE) is too short.
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