andrew8798
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 21, 2018 3:51:22 GMT -5
For the past two years I seen people talked about this subject in real depth. Where do you fall on this project? Unfortunately I don't see them being a thing for another 5-10 years
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 21, 2018 3:58:38 GMT -5
screw self-driving cars, where the hell are the damn flying cars already? they lied to us about the future!
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 21, 2018 4:11:02 GMT -5
Technology is always shitter than expected.
My school replaced the regular clock in card punch with a thumb scanner. It's shite. Takes me a dozen goes until it scans.
Self-service check outs. Utter shit, I don't think I've used one without having to call an attendant because I've got an unexpected item in the bagging area.
Self-driving cars will just be as shit.
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jagilki
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Post by jagilki on Jan 21, 2018 4:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by Burst on Jan 21, 2018 4:15:35 GMT -5
A few things... one, I think the media and people in general are exaggerating just how close they are to actually being rolled out in a role past urban taxis.
Two, self-driving cars have gotten infected with all the hubris and "We know better than you what's good for you" Silicon Valley arrogance, leading to tech start-ups trying to make more of a transcendental point than an actual practical mode of transportation, which brings us to number three...
A lot of would-be futurists are getting way too excited and are already arguing that as soon as we've got workable electric self-driving cars we need to ban privately owned cars. Not just in cities. Everywhere. Because a rural population spread out throughout the hills and vales of Appalachia for instance is *totally* going to be well-served by "a small shared fleet of work vehicles". Because I want to have the unpredictability of calling an Uber EVERY time I want to go somewhere. So many times I've seen arguments like this where it is blindingly obvious the author has never left the Bay Area or NYC and either doesn't realize or fully realizes how much it would screw over rural areas to ban private cars.
That, plus a very patronizing/contemptuous attitude towards people that might actually like to drive or like fast cars, has *really* turned me off the idea.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 21, 2018 4:43:03 GMT -5
Flying cars already exist.
They're called Aeroplanes
Been going for a good 100+ years now.
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jagilki
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Post by jagilki on Jan 21, 2018 4:46:48 GMT -5
I have an Uncle who has a self driving car.
He frequently falls asleep driving and his car drives itself off the road into a ditch and into a fence.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jan 21, 2018 4:54:21 GMT -5
Like many things, people dragging their feet is the problem.
People with money want to keep their money and until we find a way to properly pay off the people with money we can’t have progress like this and the hyperloop and infrastructure that actually makes sense to match the needs of population. Not to mention, gasoline and coal and oil are antiquated means of fuel that won’t go away either for the same reasons.
I swear, people scoff at the horse and buggy tales where those types once predicted the flop of the automobile. They get all high and mighty when making fun of the ones who said the Internet was just a fad. But then they get older and they seem to become no different than those in the past who thumbed their noses at progress destined to change the world and copped the “worked for me when I was young’un, why change it?” card.
Part of it too is those people with money who have the hands of those without money tied up like a kidnapping target.
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Post by Burst on Jan 21, 2018 5:03:09 GMT -5
Like many things, people dragging their feet is the problem. People with money want to keep their money and until we find a way to properly pay off the people with money we can’t have progress like this and the hyperloop and infrastructure that actually makes sense to match the needs of population. Not to mention, gasoline and coal and oil are antiquated means of fuel that won’t go away either for the same reasons. I swear, people scoff at the horse and buggy tales where those types once predicted the flop of the automobile. They get all high and mighty when making fun of the ones who said the Internet was just a fad. But then they get older and they seem to become no different than those in the past who thumbed their noses at progress destined to change the world and copped the “worked for me when I was young’un, why change it?” card. Part of it too is those people with money who have the hands of those without money tied up like a kidnapping target. I think a lot of it is that while I agree there needs to be progress in moving past internal combustion cars to the next big thing whether that's hyperloop or just rebuilding the rail infrastructure, people have latched on to self-driving cars to the detriment of everything else. I've been following development news for one of the major cities I live near, and there was a city council member who more or less said "we're gonna have self driving cars, why do we need to even look at light rail or commuter rail proposals anymore?" Reducing the number of transportation modes isn't the answer. And in regards to your last point, I've seen some very good counterpoint articles that basically point out that all these utopian let's-ban-regular-cars proposals all seem to overlook that self-driving cars are probably decades away from being as accessible and affordable as say, a late-model Civic for $1500. Completely removing used cars from the market like some folks are proposing completely and utterly f***s over so much of your working class it's offensive, yet the response seems to be "Oh well they can use the shared fleet oh they can use the bus" even when you're also talking about cutting back on other transportation methods. Hell I've even seen it argued "Oh they'll just have to move to the city then. We'll have skyscraper farms by then anyway." In general it feels like there is too much of a desire to "disrupt the industry" for the sake of that buzzword without caring what happens to the people they're disrupting.
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