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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jan 22, 2018 23:22:53 GMT -5
Both had major success in NXT, and both ultimately ended up being destroyed by legends conveniently prior to the Royal Rumble. Who got it worse tho?
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Post by corndog on Jan 22, 2018 23:23:45 GMT -5
Honestly, right now it's pretty much even. But we will see how long the Revival are employed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 23:24:21 GMT -5
Can i pick the fans as a write in vote?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 22, 2018 23:26:07 GMT -5
Acension
They never even got an inkling of the push the Revival got
They are getting treated like this because they got injured twice in the middle of a push so they have to take their lumps until they prove they can be healthy
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 22, 2018 23:27:55 GMT -5
Revival can at least rebuild from here through their in-ring stuff. Ascension have never gotten as good there to be able to do that even some three years later.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 22, 2018 23:28:28 GMT -5
Acension They never even got an inkling of the push the Revival got They are getting treated like this because they got injured twice in the middle of a push so they have to take their lumps until they prove they can be healthy Ascension were NXT Tag Team Champions just like The Revival were, people forget that. I get injuries maybe played a part but this whole "Ah they'll be fine" shit gets to me as a fan, because I've heard it a million times and seen a million careers flounder and die and I feel like this is going to be the same shit. I feel like I just saw the end of what could have been an amazing team. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 22, 2018 23:29:58 GMT -5
Revival can at least rebuild from here through their in-ring stuff. Ascension have never gotten as good there to be able to do that even some three years later. Implying The Revival will ever be pushed again or get TV Time, which after that well I don't even know, they were basically treated like the biggest jokes imaginable and yet people are like "Oh well their past record dictates they'll bounce back!" This is the WWE, current year WWE, I'm expecting the worst. If that makes me cynical, sorry, but I've seen it too many times. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 22, 2018 23:29:59 GMT -5
Acension They never even got an inkling of the push the Revival got They are getting treated like this because they got injured twice in the middle of a push so they have to take their lumps until they prove they can be healthy I get injuries maybe played a part but this whole "Ah they'll be fine" shit gets to me as a fan, because I've heard it a million times and seen a million careers flounder and die and I feel like this is going to be the same shit. I feel like I just saw the end of what could have been an amazing team. Annnnnndddddd. They were tag champs when NXT tag division was at their weakest To be frank you're grasping at straws. They got injured and have to work their way back like they did in NXT to get noticed It's way too early for the doom and gloom |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 22, 2018 23:34:34 GMT -5
Ascension were NXT Tag Team Champions just like The Revival were, people forget that. I get injuries maybe played a part but this whole "Ah they'll be fine" shit gets to me as a fan, because I've heard it a million times and seen a million careers flounder and die and I feel like this is going to be the same shit. I feel like I just saw the end of what could have been an amazing team. Annnnnndddddd. They were tag champs when NXT tag division was at their weakest To be frank you're grasping at straws. They got injured and have to work their way back like they did in NXT to get noticed It's way too early for the doom and gloom They lost clean to The Club in less than Five Minutes and got beat down by a bunch of old dudes, I'll be as Doom and Gloom as I like until something different happens to tell me to not be. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 22, 2018 23:36:51 GMT -5
Annnnnndddddd. They were tag champs when NXT tag division was at their weakest To be frank you're grasping at straws. They got injured and have to work their way back like they did in NXT to get noticed It's way too early for the doom and gloom They lost clean to The Club in less than Five Minutes and got beat down by a bunch of old dudes, I'll be as Doom and Gloom as I like until something different happens to tell me to not be. That's you bruh. Jump off that cliff if you want I stated my position on this. Anderson/Gallows was just losing matches for months clean and now they are back up because of Finn Revival will find their footing again once they prove they can stay healthy. Injuries happen but sadly for them it happened in the middle of two pushes in which one they destroyed the Usos and The Hardys as kick starters So they have to start from the bottom and work their way back up |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 23:37:28 GMT -5
Revival can at least rebuild from here through their in-ring stuff. Ascension have never gotten as good there to be able to do that even some three years later. Yeah. Tonight means nothing in the long term of WWE. Hell, by now we should all know that nothing they do on RAW or Smackdown means anything in the long term since they book on the fly. Finn Balor was buried by Kane and The Club spent their entire run meaning nothing and now are a featured part of RAW. The Revival returned maybe a month ago and had no program, until now it seems. Basically everyone is one show away from being a top guy. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 22, 2018 23:39:06 GMT -5
Revival can at least rebuild from here through their in-ring stuff. Ascension have never gotten as good there to be able to do that even some three years later. Yeah. Tonight means nothing in the long term of WWE. Hell, by now we should all know that nothing they do on RAW or Smackdown means anything in the long term since they book on the fly. Finn Balor was buried by Kane and The Club spent their entire run meaning nothing and now are a featured part of RAW. The Revival returned maybe a month ago and had no program, until now it seems. Basically everyone is one show away from being a top guy. And I think that's a long standing problem with RAW as a whole. They expect their fans to have a short memory and also seemingly think what they do with certain people is absolutely meaningless, and as a writer when you're producing a story driven show, that drives me absolutely crazy... |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 22, 2018 23:39:09 GMT -5
The Revival will be tag champs in WWE by year's end. I'll have a second can of sauerkraut at the ready if I'm wrong but I highly doubt I'll have to even glance at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 23:39:50 GMT -5
Revival.
They were in Match of the Year canidate matches as part of a very strong tag team divsion.
The Ascension were...well, Ascension. They had no cred other than being tag champs in a weak division.
Revival were one of the best tag teams in North Amercia when they were in NXT. Now they're being treated like absolute chumps.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 22, 2018 23:39:55 GMT -5
Revival can at least rebuild from here through their in-ring stuff. Ascension have never gotten as good there to be able to do that even some three years later. Yeah. Tonight means nothing in the long term of WWE. Hell, by now we should all know that nothing they do on RAW or Smackdown means anything in the long term since they book on the fly. Finn Balor was buried by Kane and The Club spent their entire run meaning nothing and now are a featured part of RAW. The Revival returned maybe a month ago and had no program, until now it seems. Basically everyone is one show away from being a top guy. Hence no need for Doom and Gloom Shit is too all over the place in WWE to worry about what dude or dudes isn't going to make it or getting treated badly As you said Finn was just getting sacrificed to Kane and now look at him |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 22, 2018 23:41:21 GMT -5
If Revival stays the course then it's not great, but I think they also have a higher ceiling, and any time you talk about an act being done wrong you need to factor that into the equation. The Ascension were top of the tag division for a very long time because the division was so sparse and just not there, while The Revival tore the house down with American Alpha, DIY, and AOP in major matches that put out some of the top matches of the two years they were involved at the top. It's a bit early to tell where The Revival is going to end up while it feels like The Ascension is stuck there unless Vince suddenly starts really fixating on them for some reason, but there's hope for The Revival, and I imagine once the new regime does take over Triple H is going to greatly favour a team that very much feels like they've been molded in the persuasion of some of his idols. So they'll still have that to fall back on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 23:41:45 GMT -5
The Ascension is clearly worse off, but the Revival has time to catch up. They are certainly doing step by step the exact same things that killed the Ascension so far. If by next year the Revival is still jobbers, then I will say they have equaled the Ascension (whom I would be surprised to hear if they still have a job next year).
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 22, 2018 23:56:35 GMT -5
Yeah. Tonight means nothing in the long term of WWE. Hell, by now we should all know that nothing they do on RAW or Smackdown means anything in the long term since they book on the fly. Finn Balor was buried by Kane and The Club spent their entire run meaning nothing and now are a featured part of RAW. The Revival returned maybe a month ago and had no program, until now it seems. Basically everyone is one show away from being a top guy. Hence no need for Doom and Gloom Shit is too all over the place in WWE to worry about what dude or dudes isn't going to make it or getting treated badly As you said Finn was just getting sacrificed to Kane and now look at him Yeah but you really need to be fair here, the WWE has eliminated all passes for benefits of the doubt at this point. Their ADD booking style could mean a push or depush almost at the snap of a finger anymore. I would love to see Revival recover and yes it's hard to say they have it worse when we've SEEN how Ascension have been treated since, but it just wasn't the best sign. I hope I'm wrong, I would LOVE to be wrong, and have Revival be amazing heels and champions, please let me be. |
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Post by The Trashman on Jan 22, 2018 23:58:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 23:59:08 GMT -5
My favorite thing about their presentation tonight was that last week the Revival said that none of these Monday Night Raw fools were oldschool enough for their taste and then they show up tonight in their cool retro Monday Night Raw themed T-shirt.
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