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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 1, 2018 12:02:57 GMT -5
And the best part, Hogan knew all along that tna was a fourth string outfit. In a deposition he was asked the difference between the wwe and tna, he basically said that wrestlemania does more than one million ppv buys while bound for glory would be lucky to sell more than ten thousand buys. He also was asked how come he never did interviews with major outlets in which he promoted tna, Hogan said that he wouldn't waste an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno to talk about TNA. Nah you know what, that shit is on Hogan. His f***ing ego was so big that he didn't want to talk about the company paying him millions of dollars and where he was able to get jobs for his washed up friends and his daughter, but his ego apparently wasn't so big that he still took the millions from the small time nothing company. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 1, 2018 12:48:25 GMT -5
And the best part, Hogan knew all along that tna was a fourth string outfit. In a deposition he was asked the difference between the wwe and tna, he basically said that wrestlemania does more than one million ppv buys while bound for glory would be lucky to sell more than ten thousand buys. He also was asked how come he never did interviews with major outlets in which he promoted tna, Hogan said that he wouldn't waste an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno to talk about TNA. Nah you know what, that shit is on Hogan. His f***ing ego was so big that he didn't want to talk about the company paying him millions of dollars and where he was able to get jobs for his washed up friends and his daughter, but his ego apparently wasn't so big that he still took the millions from the small time nothing company. Allegedly, according to Prichard's tna podcast, Brooke Hogan was a Dixie hiring and Hulk apparently wasn't happy about it, that he didn't wanted her associated with the company. Another major appearance of Hogan in the mainstream was in the Howard Stern Show right after the teaser of the sex tape was revealed, the only time they mentioned TNA was Stern making fun of the name and saying that TNA should be the name of the sex tape. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 1, 2018 13:18:45 GMT -5
I still remember the arguments with someone here who insisted that Hogan was great for TNA, even as ratings and buyrates tanked, because the Hulkamania tour did so well (it lost money) and he was on Howard Stern a lot (not promoting TNA in any way). Good times.
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Post by corndog on Feb 1, 2018 13:38:53 GMT -5
I still remember the arguments with someone here who insisted that Hogan was great for TNA, even as ratings and buyrates tanked, because the Hulkamania tour did so well (it lost money) and he was on Howard Stern a lot (not promoting TNA in any way). Good times. Before the 1/4 show they said that, but I don't remember too many positive posts about Hogan afterwards. Then again that was 8 years ago, so I'm not going to remember everything that well. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 1, 2018 15:45:50 GMT -5
Hogan was a fool, but I refuse to put the death of a company at his feet, and not at the person who continually hired Vince Russo, even to the detriment of television deals.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 1, 2018 17:48:16 GMT -5
Also means we are approaching ten years since the sex tape was released.
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Post by Woo on Feb 1, 2018 20:45:47 GMT -5
The Main Event Mafia was always eventually going to be dethroned by AJ Styles. 2009 ended on such a high then Hogan joined and I have up. I told Dixie to her face Hogan would kill her company. I don't believe for a moment they would have lost to AJ. There would have always been a reason to keep them on top. Well AJ closed the year on top having beaten the MEM leader Sting for the title at their biggest PPV, so yeah it did happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 20:54:09 GMT -5
Hulk stern destroys everything that he touches these days. He’s like a reverse Midas, it’s really quite amazing.
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Feb 1, 2018 21:52:19 GMT -5
As a die hard 2008-2009 was so much fun to watch.
Hell the PPV before they took over finally had "Daniels" in the main even if i recall correctly.
It took literally one show to ruin all of it.
I stuck with it, but it was f***ing horrible.
I hated Hogan in the 80's as a wee lad, I hated Hogan in the 90's, I hated Hogan in 2000's.
This made me hate him even more.
I've never seen his appeal.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Feb 2, 2018 14:17:12 GMT -5
As a die hard 2008-2009 was so much fun to watch. Hell the PPV before they took over finally had "Daniels" in the main even if i recall correctly. It took literally one show to ruin all of it. I stuck with it, but it was f***ing horrible. I hated Hogan in the 80's as a wee lad, I hated Hogan in the 90's, I hated Hogan in 2000's. This made me hate him even more. I've never seen his appeal. Next PPV had Daniels lose to VAL VENIS! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:04:59 GMT -5
I don't believe for a moment they would have lost to AJ. There would have always been a reason to keep them on top. Well AJ closed the year on top having beaten the MEM leader Sting for the title at their biggest PPV, so yeah it did happen. And did any of them go away? Had AJ vanquished the heels? They stayed around, mostly on top and mostly booked stronger than AJ. WCW mark 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 18:17:44 GMT -5
Was his first Impact the one where they showed him driving up in a limo and then he came out and said he had been watching in the back all day
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 3, 2018 1:43:07 GMT -5
Was his first Impact the one where they showed him driving up in a limo and then he came out and said he had been watching in the back all day Yep. Hogan was a fool, but I refuse to put the death of a company at his feet, and not at the person who continually hired Vince Russo, even to the detriment of television deals. Yeah, Hogan was a symptom not a cause. For one thing Dixie still ok'd every stupid idea Hogan had and could have shot down anything but didn't. |
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Post by Woo on Feb 4, 2018 6:28:54 GMT -5
Well AJ closed the year on top having beaten the MEM leader Sting for the title at their biggest PPV, so yeah it did happen. And did any of them go away? Had AJ vanquished the heels? They stayed around, mostly on top and mostly booked stronger than AJ. WCW mark 2. Angle was in an upper midcard feud with Desmond Wolfe and the rest were midcarding while AJ, Joe and Daniels were the main eventers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 6:55:56 GMT -5
And did any of them go away? Had AJ vanquished the heels? They stayed around, mostly on top and mostly booked stronger than AJ. WCW mark 2. Angle was in an upper midcard feud with Desmond Wolfe and the rest were midcarding while AJ, Joe and Daniels were the main eventers. And how long did that last? It was a throwaway main event biding time until Hogan came in. Daniels ended up jobbing to Val Venis, Joe's tenure slipped and slipped and AJ ended up floundering as Flair 2.0 Beating the MEM should have established AJ as the main eventer he became in his very late time there. Instead Angle, okay he feuded with Desmond, but he was pushed back over AJ, and they all hung around much longer than they needed to. How many more PPVs did AJ, Joe and Daniels main event off the back of that? The MEM was running roughshod all year, took one loss sure, but did nothing to establish any younger TNA guys as the new stars of the company. I can see it's one of those things where you liked the angle and thought it achieved what it meant to. I didn't, I hated it, it was everything the TNA I enjoyed from a couple of years prior wasn't meant to be and was the final straw for me. |
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Post by corndog on Feb 4, 2018 10:41:14 GMT -5
Hogan was a fool, but I refuse to put the death of a company at his feet, and not at the person who continually hired Vince Russo, even to the detriment of television deals. Vince Russo is a complete tool and I hate defending the guy, but... he was a contributing writer in the 2008/09 period that everyone loves and became the head of creative in July 2009, which started a very strong and hopeful period leading into the Hogan fiasco. Yes, he continued being the "head of creative" throughout 2010, but I think once Hogan/Bischoff came in it turned into "too many cooks in the kitchen". It's pretty obvious, Bischoff and Hogan had pull with all of their friends they brought into the company after Hogan's arrival. I don't think we can discount the harm they did to the company and at the same time pin all of the blame on Russo. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 4, 2018 10:50:34 GMT -5
Hogan was a fool, but I refuse to put the death of a company at his feet, and not at the person who continually hired Vince Russo, even to the detriment of television deals. Hogan isn't a guy I'd pin as the main contributor to the company's downfall, but definitely a player in it. His push to get onto the road when they didn't have the money or the fanbase for it was a huge part of the money troubles that went on to plague the company and plunge it into new heights of debt. Yes he shouldn't have been hired, yes the company did nothing to rein him in or make him earn his fat paycheck like they should have, but he made moves within the company that were equivalent to punching holes into the side of the ship, and that can't be overlooked. |
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Post by hargh on Feb 4, 2018 11:16:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Hogan still with TNA while he was a playable character in that WWE All Stars video game?
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Post by Woo on Feb 4, 2018 14:23:54 GMT -5
Angle was in an upper midcard feud with Desmond Wolfe and the rest were midcarding while AJ, Joe and Daniels were the main eventers. And how long did that last? It was a throwaway main event biding time until Hogan came in. Daniels ended up jobbing to Val Venis, Joe's tenure slipped and slipped and AJ ended up floundering as Flair 2.0 Beating the MEM should have established AJ as the main eventer he became in his very late time there. Instead Angle, okay he feuded with Desmond, but he was pushed back over AJ, and they all hung around much longer than they needed to. How many more PPVs did AJ, Joe and Daniels main event off the back of that? The MEM was running roughshod all year, took one loss sure, but did nothing to establish any younger TNA guys as the new stars of the company. I can see it's one of those things where you liked the angle and thought it achieved what it meant to. I didn't, I hated it, it was everything the TNA I enjoyed from a couple of years prior wasn't meant to be and was the final straw for me. That was all because of Hogan coming in and bringing his buddies with him and making the company do a full reset, it was nothing to do with the MEM angle. I hated what became of AJ, Joe and Daniels too but I know it was clearly the fault of Hogan and was not part of the original angle. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 4, 2018 14:30:48 GMT -5
Hogan was a fool, but I refuse to put the death of a company at his feet, and not at the person who continually hired Vince Russo, even to the detriment of television deals. Vince Russo is a complete tool and I hate defending the guy, but... he was a contributing writer in the 2008/09 period that everyone loves and became the head of creative in July 2009, which started a very strong and hopeful period leading into the Hogan fiasco. Yes, he continued being the "head of creative" throughout 2010, but I think once Hogan/Bischoff came in it turned into "too many cooks in the kitchen". It's pretty obvious, Bischoff and Hogan had pull with all of their friends they brought into the company after Hogan's arrival. I don't think we can discount the harm they did to the company and at the same time pin all of the blame on Russo. They weren't pinning it all on Russo. They were pinning it on Dixie. the person who routinely hired Russo despite his consistent track record of failure, and let Hogan do whatever the hell he wanted. |
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