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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 18, 2018 15:04:33 GMT -5
This is why Renee is the best in the game and it's not even close. Her segments with Sami in NXT were amazing, so much chemistry between them, more than she has with her actual husband on the main roster. She's still the best but even she's more stilted on the main roster. Before Samoa Joe got injured, those backstage bits where he taunted her about Ambrose's injury were solid.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 18, 2018 16:18:29 GMT -5
They usually go like this: Bethany Brigstock: "I'm here backstage with WWE Superstar....the Hungarian Horntail....GRIGOR, who is just two weeks away from defending his WWE Western Hemisphere Championship at the WWE OUT FOR REVENGE event, tell me, Grigor, what do you think about your chances at the WWE OUT FOR REVENGE event when you face the number one contender, the Skull Carnage, Jordan Johnson?" Grigor: "Well, let me tell you something Bethany, it has been an honour to entertain the WWE Universe as WWE Western Hemisphere Champion since I won the championship at the WWE ONLY ONE SURVIVES event when I defeated the Japanese rockstar artist Fujimora Fujisaki in a Money In The Pocket match...." *camera cuts to the crowd watching the interview on the Titantron* Grigor: ".....but the WWE Universe will see something even better when the Skull Carnage gets his title opportunity in this very ring on Sunday at the WWE OUT FOR REVENGE event" Bethany Brigstock: "Grigor, thankyou for your time" *Grigor leaves and Bethany watches him go....for 12 seconds* This is a masterpiece. My new stable of CAWs is going to be Dick Duckling backed up by the Hungarian Horntail, Grigor, and the Skull Carnage, Jordan Johnson. These guys always say stuff like this but current people usually say if you adlib you're not rewarded like days past. They seen out of touch with the current climate which is weird because Jericho has been around. I don't think you actually read what either of them said, bruh.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Feb 18, 2018 17:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by Gummydavidson on Feb 18, 2018 17:30:53 GMT -5
So the WWE 2K16 interview segments were actually super realistic?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 17:35:11 GMT -5
It's obvious that the WWE NEEDS to lure Clint Bobski out of retirement and have him be the lead backstage interview guy.
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Post by axebomber on Feb 18, 2018 17:37:46 GMT -5
This is good to see. I was complaining about the interviewers staring off into space a few weeks ago on here.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 18, 2018 17:41:02 GMT -5
I think Renee gets a little bit of leeway with the producers since her relationship with Ambrose can be mined for feud potential, but all of the Interchangeable Charley Clones really suck the life out of things otherwise.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 18, 2018 18:33:05 GMT -5
There's almost nothing, in my opinion, that works about the way WWE structures its promos, whether backstage, in front of the audience, with or without an interviewer, or a backstage skit. That doesn't mean they don't get some good promos out of their setup, mind, just that the structures themselves are largely counterproductive and detract from accomplishing nearly anything positive the bulk of the time.
Therefore it's not surprising I'd agree with what Austin and Jericho say, here; the way they do stuff with backstage interviewers gives no life to the proceedings, always end awkwardly, and don't manage to make what's happening feel real, sports-like, or even like a generally organic-feeling environment where people act and respond to the actions of others like a human being would. More than that, what it does is create a ridiculous trope; the idea behind an interviewer having nothing to say and just staring as the wrestler walks off is that it should only be done if the wrestler did or said something extraordinary; when they do it after every interview the gesture becomes utterly meaningless.
I imagine some might ask "well, Gene Okerlund and even Sean Mooney got to show personality, why can't they?", and beyond the whole "Vince is old and nuts and micromanages/overscripts everything", I imagine some might respond "well, these new guys aren't on Gene Okerlund's level"...to which the proper response would be "how will they ever get there like this, though?"
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 18, 2018 18:37:15 GMT -5
There's almost nothing, in my opinion, that works about the way WWE structures its promos, whether backstage, in front of the audience, with or without an interviewer, or a backstage skit. That doesn't mean they don't get some good promos out of their setup, mind, just that the structures themselves are largely counterproductive and detract from accomplishing nearly anything positive the bulk of the time. Therefore it's not surprising I'd agree with what Austin and Jericho say, here; the way they do stuff with backstage interviewers gives no life to the proceedings, always end awkwardly, and don't manage to make what's happening feel real, sports-like, or even like a generally organic-feeling environment where people act and respond to the actions of others like a human being would. More than that, what it does is create a ridiculous trope; the idea behind an interviewer having nothing to say and just staring as the wrestler walks off is that it should only be done if the wrestler did or said something extraordinary; when they do it after every interview the gesture becomes utterly meaningless. I imagine some might ask "well, Gene Okerlund and even Sean Mooney got to show personality, why can't they?", and beyond the whole "Vince is old and nuts and micromanages/overscripts everything", I imagine some might respond "well, these new guys aren't on Gene Okerlund's level"...to which the proper response would be "how will they ever get there like this, though?" They have promos being written by bad writers in a vacuous, sterile environment where they have stripped out so many different elements and made it all so unbearably samey and empty that it sets everyone involved up for failure. Which is the case for most of what WWE does honestly. The whole structure of what their product is and how they present it is desgined in a way that almost makes you wonder if they don't want anyone to be over at all, save for how completely ludicrous that sounds. Like it's clearly not working, but they don't ever seem to care or try to change that to make something work, they just push on deeper and further into f***ing nonsense.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 18, 2018 19:11:27 GMT -5
It’s amazing how obvious this is to every person under the sun except for Vince and a handful who say, “be horrible at your job, and here’s how we want to film it.”
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Post by schma on Feb 18, 2018 19:23:38 GMT -5
I would give the one guy a pass since he's probably focused on not falling over or splitting his pants open when he has to squat in order to seem shorter.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Feb 18, 2018 21:30:01 GMT -5
So the backstage interviewers don't do tosses anymore?
That's like one of the first things you learn about in broadcasting school: the art of the smooth transition from one segment to the next.
Hell if you're going to do that you might as well just randomly cut away from the interview in mid sentence. Keep the audience guessing about what they were going to say.
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Post by The Barber on Feb 18, 2018 22:00:01 GMT -5
Whatever else can be said, Mean Gene Okerlund had a personality and charisma that has never been replicated in a backstage interview host. The way he would banter with the wrestlers and react off them added so much. I think the closest anyone has come is Joey Styles in the old school ECW. I think Lauren Thompson a.k.a Brooke, was the best interviewer in TNA history and (in my opinion) one of the top 5 best backstage interviewers in wrestling history. She put emotion in her interviews and more people should do that.
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Post by Larryhausen on Feb 18, 2018 23:50:10 GMT -5
I think Renee gets a little bit of leeway with the producers since her relationship with Ambrose can be mined for feud potential, but all of the Interchangeable Charley Clones really suck the life out of things otherwise. And that's not even touching on the problem of being Mike Tom or Tom Mike.
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Post by bog on Feb 18, 2018 23:53:59 GMT -5
Thank god people are addressing the awkward stare off into space interview. They also have the interviewers ask generic questions, leading to the wrestler calling them stupid for asking such a boring question, and then going onto whatever they want to talk about regardless. With the way they film these things, there's absolutely no reason for the interviewer to be there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 23:55:58 GMT -5
So the backstage interviewers don't do tosses anymore? That's like one of the first things you learn about in broadcasting school: the art of the smooth transition from one segment to the next. Hell if you're going to do that you might as well just randomly cut away from the interview in mid sentence. Keep the audience guessing about what they were going to say. Generally speaking pretty much every backstage interview ends in the person storming off and then a lingering shot on the interviewer looking confused. I think the intention's supposed to be to put over that they're stunned by what was just said, but when it happens in every single segment it just makes it look like WWE employs a bunch of morons who get lost easily.
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Post by captainhindsite on Feb 19, 2018 0:40:51 GMT -5
Well we wouldn't want them to get too over. Just ask the guy who paused for ONE FALL!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 19, 2018 1:06:54 GMT -5
Thank god people are addressing the awkward stare off into space interview. They also have the interviewers ask generic questions, leading to the wrestler calling them stupid for asking such a boring question, and then going onto whatever they want to talk about regardless. With the way they film these things, there's absolutely no reason for the interviewer to be there. Which is where this gets doubly weird; I think the idea is that they have the heel get heat by being a dick to the interviewer, but if you don't care about the interviewer because they're an interchangeable drone with no personality traits or reason to care, then it's not going to get heat. If someone was a dick to Mean Gene that would mean something, because people could care about Mean Gene. When they do it to Dead-Eyed Brunette #4 it's nothing.
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Post by trollrogue on Feb 19, 2018 1:59:11 GMT -5
If anyone used to watch Attack of the Show on G4TV, I WISH the WWE woulda hired some of these guys along with The Miz as backstage interviewers... you KNOW they aren't staying on script.
It's really not hard, this is why you hired Charly Caruso and Renee Young, they have experience hosting live shows so why are they being heavily-scripted in said live show?!? Let them do their magic, but obviously Talking Smack is something too precious for this world.
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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 19, 2018 19:26:40 GMT -5
I personally think that Renee is better than Gene, but i did not grow up with him and only saw it later in my life. The other girl is generic as hell , thats true.
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