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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 24, 2018 13:10:33 GMT -5
I still don't understand any of the logic there. Send a guy out there to shoot on Kurt Angle and then get mad at him for shooting on Kurt Angle. It was more that they sent him out to get shot on by Kurt Angle in some kind of insane televised rookie stretching because WWE is just the worst, and they didn't expect someone to actually fight back because something something muh respect for dis bizness. Angle was pissed and Puder got heat for shit that was entirely Angle and the company's fault.
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Post by TGM on Feb 24, 2018 14:11:16 GMT -5
I still don't understand any of the logic there. Send a guy out there to shoot on Kurt Angle and then get mad at him for shooting on Kurt Angle. It's WWE.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 24, 2018 19:19:29 GMT -5
I want to believe that nobody backstage would be stupid enough to think “he hurt one of the most popular guys, so let’s give him a push” would work. But the same company thought that “retiring the Undertaker” would get fans to cheer Roman Reigns.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Feb 24, 2018 23:34:53 GMT -5
Puder just makes me think what shitheads Guerrero, Benoit and Holly were during that Rumble. According to Holly's book he was told by Jimmy Wang Yang that Puder was bragging about beating a particular wrestler and making it seem like he legit beat them. You see Guerrero kind of felt bad for him while Benoit and Holly were doing the most damage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 4:39:47 GMT -5
I still don't understand any of the logic there. Send a guy out there to shoot on Kurt Angle and then get mad at him for shooting on Kurt Angle. It was more that they sent him out to get shot on by Kurt Angle in some kind of insane televised rookie stretching because WWE is just the worst, and they didn't expect someone to actually fight back because something something muh respect for dis bizness. Angle was pissed and Puder got heat for shit that was entirely Angle and the company's fault. Yeah this. He'd already injured 2 kids in this bizarre setup where they'd already been made to eat pasta, drink gallons of milk then run shuttles until they vomited. Then they get to the ring, do hack squats and the person who lasts longest gets told their reward is Angle shooting on them. Then he offers the open challenge to a trained MMA guy and nearly gets screwed. Part of me sometimes thinks Korderas shouldn't have called the audible just to let everyone in the company, especially Angle at this stage, how stupid this was.
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Post by sfvega on Feb 25, 2018 4:51:27 GMT -5
Puder goes down in history as being a f***ing psychopath who shoot broke the arm of Kurt Angle, who as someone people liked would have positioned him as hardly a folk hero. He'd be fired overnight, and probably get offers to show up in TNA where he'd show up, brag about breaking Kurt's arm, and then get a gimmick where he keeps on the kimura too long and puts people on the shelf. But at the same time, you also have to remember the other parts to it: 1) Puder probably won Tough Enough on the back of "he nearly broke Kurt Angle's arm in a shoot fight", so even if he goes down as a psychopath, he'd still be positioned as a folk hero even if people liked Angle. If Puder succeeded, he is almost certainly blackballed from WWE, but likely has a big career on the indies for it. (It may seem barbaric, but remember- at that similar time period in the 2000s, Mike Barton was a big deal in Japan at that time on the back of "he shoot knocked out Steve Williams in the Brawl 4 All. Combine Barton's Japan success and the fact Inoki was in his MMA fanboyism at the time, and there is no way New Japan doesn't back up the Brinks truck for Puder.) 2) Focusing on Puder has to also be said for the opposite side- what happens to Angle's reputation? Angle had been built on the Olympic Gold Medalist and one of the best fighters in the world aura- and as seen from New Japan, getting your ass kicked in the Octagon could destroy a star in an instant. If Puder succeeded in breaking Angle's arm or even made Angle tap, then Kurt Angle's career as a main event player is instantly DEAD. Just give Angle a dancing gimmick and put him in the lower card- Angle would be instantly done as a major player in WWE. (The "could Angle just tap?" was also an important distinction, because a big problem in the instance was "Even if it would be smarter to tap out, Kurt Angle could not tap out to Puder, because " KURT ANGLE" wouldn't tap out to an untrained rookie and so if Angle did the smart thing and tapped, he instantly broke character and made himself look like a doofus in storyline). Just no. Angle was a main eventer no matter what. The E had Brock as a monster after getting his ass beat in the UFC and Del Rio as a main eventer after Cro Cop kicked his face off. If they wanted to, it never airs and only gets talked about on the internet which is way less of a big deal at the time than it is now.
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