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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 22, 2018 14:36:43 GMT -5
I watch the Big Bang theory and I’ve noticed over the years that while Bernadette has gotten drastically meaner and Penny has gotten dumber (and meaner) over time, somehow Howard and Amy has gotten more normal as time moved on over the course of the series.
Are there other shows where the characters actually became more normal as the series kept going?
The only other one I can think of is
Hodgins from Bones
Elliot from scrubs (debateable as she’s less neurotic and meekly and more confident and competent but more heavily used wacky euphemisms and cathphrases).
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 22, 2018 14:42:13 GMT -5
Dax in DS9
She was originally a boring "ethereal" type of character, then turned into a smart ass and became far more relatable.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 22, 2018 14:59:18 GMT -5
Tucker on Enterprise basically started as a wacky redneck stereotype who seemed one scene away away from wearing a trucker cap in the engine room. As the series went on, thye actually gave him nuance and intelligence to the point where he felt like he fit his command.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 22, 2018 15:03:24 GMT -5
Cyril Sneer on The Raccoons.
Card carrying villain to well rounded character.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 22, 2018 15:12:19 GMT -5
Percy the Green Engine.
Young, cheeky, but able to learn.
Now, more sense than a sack of concrete.
Toby the Tram Engine.
Old, but wise. More experienced than all the other engines.
Now a little chicken shit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 15:30:18 GMT -5
Boyle from Brooklyn 99
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 22, 2018 15:46:48 GMT -5
Dax in DS9 She was originally a boring "ethereal" type of character, then turned into a smart ass and became far more relatable. And then became Ezri. f*** Ezri. |
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 22, 2018 15:47:03 GMT -5
Howard Wolowitz from The Big Bang Theory immediately jumps to mind. He was like, every creepy nerd stereotype imaginable the first few seasons. Then he actually changed his ways after getting into a steady relationship with Bernadette and grew into a relatively decent human being, with some character complexities even with how he deals with his father leaving him at a young age and the aftermath of his mother's death (granted, this was forced necessity due to the actress voicing his mother dying way before her time).
Dax was brought up with DS9 but I'd also like to add Kira to the mix. She was this hothead, zealous Bajoran who constantly undermined Sisko and seemingly wanted to fight everyone. But then she grew into her role as Major, just as Sisko grew into his role as DS9 commander and the Emissary, and she really, for lack of a better word, grew up. I think her character was a good commentary on how hard it is for the resistance fighter to stop fighting even in peacetime as well as overcoming her own prejudices for the greater good, like her father-daughter relationship with Cardassian Legate Ghemor and helping Damar with organizing the Cardassian Resistance against the Dominion.
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Post by lionheart21 on Mar 22, 2018 15:50:17 GMT -5
Margaret Houlihan from M*A*S*H*
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 22, 2018 16:19:20 GMT -5
Margaret Houlihan from M*A*S*H* Klinger as well. |
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Post by chrom on Mar 22, 2018 16:42:59 GMT -5
Howard is the only cast member who has actually changed from what he was at the beginning. He was a mini arc away from being listed as a sexual predator. In contrast to Leonard being more spineless and whiny and Raj more pathetic than when he couldn't talk and Sheldon a more obnoxious ahole
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 22, 2018 17:09:55 GMT -5
Howard is the only cast member who has actually changed from what he was at the beginning. He was a mini arc away from being listed as a sexual predator. In contrast to Leonard being more spineless and whiny and Raj more pathetic than when he couldn't talk and Sheldon a more obnoxious ahole Sheldon has been both Flanderised and Deflanderised at the same time. His idiosyncrasies and obnoxiousness has been amped up, but we've also seen him mature in his relationship with Amy, slowly moving from a mutual friendship, to boyfriend and girlfriend, kissing, coitus and by the end of the season marriage. The asexual, early season Sheldon would never have done that. |
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 22, 2018 17:41:46 GMT -5
Sansa from Game of Thrones is like this for me. I hated her in AGOT/first season but started to like her a lot later on in the shows and books.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 22, 2018 17:54:15 GMT -5
Sansa from Game of Thrones is like this for me. I hated her in AGOT/first season but started to like her a lot later on in the shows and books. Yea she went bratty little girl to actually being a strong woman who you feel bad for that all the bad shit has happened to her. Being around Joffrey and LittleFinger will do that for you |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 23, 2018 4:00:52 GMT -5
I think the entire main cast of the Magicians may fit this. It started it out as just a show I caught out of boredom and seemed like Harry Potter met teen drama ala 90210 with a few minor magic effects. It had all the stereotypes. The pure girl. The nerdy boy. The rebellious mysterious guy and his troubled lover. The party girl and her gay best friend. The outcast girl. But by season three they are all such rich complex characters and all assumptions about them are flipped. This season has jumped it up to the top of my must watch shows airing.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Mar 23, 2018 4:20:43 GMT -5
In season 1 of Parks and Recreation, Leslie Knope was basically female Michael Scott. She was a dumbass and implied to be successful because of nepotism. Then she became a hard working, positive and determined woman. And speaking of the anus that is season 1 of Parks and Rec: Andy was a real asshole boyfriend to Ann. While he still had the traits of being lazy and a manchild, he became a lot kinder and lovable.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 23, 2018 6:02:37 GMT -5
Rhys from Malcolm in the Middle started off as a big standard bully but got more depth throughout the series.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 23, 2018 6:29:45 GMT -5
80% of the characters played by Aubrey Plaza or Zooey Deschanel for any length of time, after writers realise they have more depth than "snarky attractive weird girl"
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 23, 2018 6:49:33 GMT -5
Bulk and Skull from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
Started off as comedy bullies, but becamse investigators, joined the junior police and ended up having a few heroic moments including rallying the people to aid the Power Rangers at the end of In Space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 7:59:09 GMT -5
80% of the characters played by Aubrey Plaza or Zooey Deschanel for any length of time, after writers realise they have more depth than "snarky attractive weird girl" I was going to say April in Parks, but you could say the whole cast actually. They all grow brilliantly as characters. |
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