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Post by hossfan on Mar 23, 2018 8:21:05 GMT -5
I'd say Venus Flytrap from "WKRP" and Sgt. Ron Harris from "Barney Miller" were broader ethnic stereotypes when their shows first started. The characterization wasn't offensive or anything, but both of them definitely shifted from how they were originally presented.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 23, 2018 8:32:23 GMT -5
I would guess Archie Bunker would be one, but I don't know how much of that was actor influence.
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Post by Malcolm on Mar 23, 2018 11:32:11 GMT -5
Isn't the phrase we're looking for "character development" or do we mean something else entirely?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 23, 2018 11:39:13 GMT -5
Isn't the phrase we're looking for "character development" or do we mean something else entirely? The slight nuance on it being a change from a one note or stock character to something more, I think. As opposed to the growth of a character who was never meant to be a one note character. A relevant Simpsons example might be Apu.
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 23, 2018 12:06:14 GMT -5
Does Urkel count?
A super basic stock character: "annoying neighbor wants my daughter" morphed into... well, Urkel.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 23, 2018 12:17:13 GMT -5
Does Urkel count? A super basic stock character: "annoying neighbor wants my daughter" morphed into... well, Urkel.Stefan Urquelle
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 23, 2018 12:20:22 GMT -5
80% of the characters played by Aubrey Plaza or Zooey Deschanel for any length of time, after writers realise they have more depth than "snarky attractive weird girl" I was going to say April in Parks, but you could say the whole cast actually. They all grow brilliantly as characters. Parks and Rec did an amazing job of making you both like and care about every member of the cast by the time the series wrapped up.
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Post by Juice on Mar 23, 2018 13:05:48 GMT -5
Screech is less screechy as the show went on to New Class
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 23, 2018 22:45:35 GMT -5
Does Urkel count? A super basic stock character: "annoying neighbor wants my daughter" morphed into... well, Urkel. Oh well that's pretty much Flanderization itself. I'm looking for the opposite.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 23, 2018 22:46:11 GMT -5
Screech is less screechy as the show went on to New Class Really? I found quite more and more punchable in the New Class than i did during the original show.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 23, 2018 22:47:08 GMT -5
Isn't the phrase we're looking for "character development" or do we mean something else entirely? I guess it could be character development. I was more referring to just toning down the character twerks instead of massively focusing on them over time.
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Post by Juice on Mar 23, 2018 22:54:15 GMT -5
Screech is less screechy as the show went on to New Class Really? I found quite more and more punchable in the New Class than i did during the original show. i could be wrong i was pretty young. Am I thinking of college?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 24, 2018 0:20:18 GMT -5
Really? I found quite more and more punchable in the New Class than i did during the original show. i could be wrong i was pretty young. Am I thinking of college? New class is when he developed the catchphrases, unhealthy attachment to Mr Belding and that big curly Fro.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 24, 2018 4:59:02 GMT -5
The Cat in Red Dwarf. In the first two seasons he played up and anthropomorphised every archetypical cat trait (arrogant, aloof, constantly preening, will sleep anywhere at any time, etc.). From season 3 onwards they dialled down those traits as he became more humanised, or domesticated.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 5:18:38 GMT -5
Cooter from The Dukes Of Hazzard. He was a bumbling schmuck in the first few episodes until they made him part of the crew.
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 24, 2018 6:42:10 GMT -5
April in Parks and Rec could be considered. The early seasons had her as a generic moody teen disinterested in working with the department. Yet over the course of the series she started her relationship with Andy and became a much more integral member of the team, gaining confidence and the intuition to make things happen in a way she never would've done previously.
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