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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 26, 2018 18:04:16 GMT -5
not for nothing but I think there’s a lot of revisionist history going on there. Being on the road for most of the year is tough enough. A co-worker deciding to introduce his wacky shenanigans into your workspace doesn’t become ok just because he subsequently died. It’s just a job. Keep it professional. I remember hearing that he would put something in other wrestlers drinks to make them fall asleep so he could shave their high brows off which doesn't exactly fall into the harmless fun category. I think he was still probably a nice guy and he wasn't as cruel as the likes of Mr. Perfect, British Bulldogs, and Mr. Fuji with the pranks they were doing but I don't think he a total saint either. Other then Bobby Eaton and Kane there's a negative story for every wrestler. There human just like us and they all have their flaws and they're going to have their bad days just like everyone does. Yeah, never heard an Owen story even close to that. Considering he wasn’t much a party guy, have a tough time believing he’s doping drinks.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 26, 2018 18:04:47 GMT -5
DDP reaching out to Jake Roberts and Scott Hall, staying with them when everybody else would have likely given up, and basically saving their lives.
As bad as Kerry Von Erich had his issues, Bret said in his book that he was one of the nicest people you could meet, and wouldn't think twice about giving you the shirt off his back. And there was a story about him stopping a purse snatcher outside MSG.
Stories about Bam Bam Bigelow pulling kids out of a burning building and Perry Saturn saving a little girl from being raped (and getting shot in the process) are some great stories of heroism about wrestlers.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 26, 2018 18:14:44 GMT -5
I remember hearing that he would put something in other wrestlers drinks to make them fall asleep so he could shave their high brows off which doesn't exactly fall into the harmless fun category. I think he was still probably a nice guy and he wasn't as cruel as the likes of Mr. Perfect, British Bulldogs, and Mr. Fuji with the pranks they were doing but I don't think he a total saint either. Other then Bobby Eaton and Kane there's a negative story for every wrestler. There human just like us and they all have their flaws and they're going to have their bad days just like everyone does. Yeah, never heard an Owen story even close to that. Considering he wasn’t much a party guy, have a tough time believing he’s doping drinks. I vaguely remember reading in a book(maybe Edge's?) about him and some of the boys playing "halcion bowling", basically popping sleeping pills and then going bowling, just to see how goofy it got, but he was a doped as anyone else there, so yeah, "doping drinks" is a bit of a stretch.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 26, 2018 18:16:11 GMT -5
Yeah, never heard an Owen story even close to that. Considering he wasn’t much a party guy, have a tough time believing he’s doping drinks. I vaguely remember reading in a book(maybe Edge's?) about him and some of the boys playing "halcion bowling", basically popping sleeping pills and then going bowling, just to see how goofy it got, but he was a doped as anyone else there, so yeah, "doping drinks" is a bit of a stretch. I remember the Edge story, but not that Owen was there. Bret talks about drinking with Owen and smoking weed, so it’s not like he never did. He just didn’t make it habit.
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Post by Main Eventer on Mar 26, 2018 18:41:32 GMT -5
Yeah, never heard an Owen story even close to that. Considering he wasn’t much a party guy, have a tough time believing he’s doping drinks. I vaguely remember reading in a book(maybe Edge's?) about him and some of the boys playing "halcion bowling", basically popping sleeping pills and then going bowling, just to see how goofy it got, but he was a doped as anyone else there, so yeah, "doping drinks" is a bit of a stretch. If it's the story I'm thinking about its Jericho's book and it was when he was in WCW, so Owen wouldn't have been apart of that.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 26, 2018 19:50:16 GMT -5
Viscera was super nice when I met him about 4 months before he passed. Back then my buddy Blake went to every show with me. Blake is mentally challenged,he was in his early 20s back then but had the mind of a 10 year old. Blake walked up to Vis at the after show meet and greet. Asked Vis to sign his kids replica Hardcore title. Vis signed it asked Blake to sit down next to him and ended up talking to Blake for a long time.
Over the past 8 years I have gotten to meet piles of legends and modern stars. Besides,Masada,they have all be super nice. Even Teddy Hart. Had heard many horror stories about Teddy. But he was great. He wasn't even working the show he showed up at. He just came to hang out and watch the show. A buddy I had rode to the show with knows Teddy so introduced us. Once Teddy found out I live way out in the woods he kept asking me if I had "Ever seen Bigfoot. It might sound crazy but I swear there is a Bigfoot that watches me jog thru the woods everyday."
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 26, 2018 19:58:52 GMT -5
Viscera was super nice when I met him about 4 months before he passed. Back then my buddy Blake went to every show with me. Blake is mentally challenged,he was in his early 20s back then but had the mind of a 10 year old. Blake walked up to Vis at the after show meet and greet. Asked Vis to sign his kids replica Hardcore title. Vis signed it asked Blake to sit down next to him and ended up talking to Blake for a long time. Over the past 8 years I have gotten to meet piles of legends and modern stars. Besides,Masada,they have all be super nice. Even Teddy Hart. Had heard many horror stories about Teddy. But he was great. He wasn't even working the show he showed up at. He just came to hang out and watch the show. A buddy I had rode to the show with knows Teddy so introduced us. Once Teddy found out I live way out in the woods he kept asking me if I had "Ever seen Bigfoot. It might sound crazy but I swear there is a Bigfoot that watches me jog thru the woods everyday." You just reminded me of a big one for me with that first story: Me and my friends were at a dirt level GA indy show about...ten years ago now. On the show were future stars AR Fox and Apollo Crewes(then Uhaa Nation), but at the time, they were nobodies. Also on the show was a guy we all knew from Mr. Hughes' wrestling school called Navy Blue(who would be a WWE developmental guy in FCW for about a year as Desean Bishop, but anyways). Well, as the show goes on, me and my friends notice some of my cousins, notably my cousin Chris. Chris has a similar disability to your buddy Blake. Anyways, I figure I know a few of the guys through Hughes' school, so I introduce him to Navy. Navy notices that he has a little autograph book, but is too nervous to ask any of the boys for a signature, even though none of them are famous at all. Navy, just being a classy dude, takes my cousin around to all the boys and gets a signature from each and every guy on the show. It was a small thing, but it's really stuck with me.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 26, 2018 22:01:31 GMT -5
Viscera was super nice when I met him about 4 months before he passed. Back then my buddy Blake went to every show with me. Blake is mentally challenged,he was in his early 20s back then but had the mind of a 10 year old. Blake walked up to Vis at the after show meet and greet. Asked Vis to sign his kids replica Hardcore title. Vis signed it asked Blake to sit down next to him and ended up talking to Blake for a long time. Over the past 8 years I have gotten to meet piles of legends and modern stars. Besides,Masada,they have all be super nice. Even Teddy Hart. Had heard many horror stories about Teddy. But he was great. He wasn't even working the show he showed up at. He just came to hang out and watch the show. A buddy I had rode to the show with knows Teddy so introduced us. Once Teddy found out I live way out in the woods he kept asking me if I had "Ever seen Bigfoot. It might sound crazy but I swear there is a Bigfoot that watches me jog thru the woods everyday." You just reminded me of a big one for me with that first story: Me and my friends were at a dirt level GA indy show about...ten years ago now. On the show were future stars AR Fox and Apollo Crewes(then Uhaa Nation), but at the time, they were nobodies. Also on the show was a guy we all knew from Mr. Hughes' wrestling school called Navy Blue(who would be a WWE developmental guy in FCW for about a year as Desean Bishop, but anyways). Well, as the show goes on, me and my friends notice some of my cousins, notably my cousin Chris. Chris has a similar disability to your buddy Blake. Anyways, I figure I know a few of the guys through Hughes' school, so I introduce him to Navy. Navy notices that he has a little autograph book, but is too nervous to ask any of the boys for a signature, even though none of them are famous at all. Navy, just being a classy dude, takes my cousin around to all the boys and gets a signature from each and every guy on the show. It was a small thing, but it's really stuck with me. Yep it is the small things like that that make me a huge fan of various wrestlers. Since you mentioned Big Cat Curtis Hughes wrestling school. Do you know who Purple Haze Davey Hendrix is? He was trained by Curtis. And now lives in the NOLA area. He is a guy that if he was in the Northeast I am betting he would be working for ROH or Impact by now. But cause he is based in the deep south,he is pretty much unknown outside the area.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 26, 2018 22:45:55 GMT -5
You just reminded me of a big one for me with that first story: Me and my friends were at a dirt level GA indy show about...ten years ago now. On the show were future stars AR Fox and Apollo Crewes(then Uhaa Nation), but at the time, they were nobodies. Also on the show was a guy we all knew from Mr. Hughes' wrestling school called Navy Blue(who would be a WWE developmental guy in FCW for about a year as Desean Bishop, but anyways). Well, as the show goes on, me and my friends notice some of my cousins, notably my cousin Chris. Chris has a similar disability to your buddy Blake. Anyways, I figure I know a few of the guys through Hughes' school, so I introduce him to Navy. Navy notices that he has a little autograph book, but is too nervous to ask any of the boys for a signature, even though none of them are famous at all. Navy, just being a classy dude, takes my cousin around to all the boys and gets a signature from each and every guy on the show. It was a small thing, but it's really stuck with me. Yep it is the small things like that that make me a huge fan of various wrestlers. Since you mentioned Big Cat Curtis Hughes wrestling school. Do you know who Purple Haze Davey Hendrix is? He was trained by Curtis. And now lives in the NOLA area. He is a guy that if he was in the Northeast I am betting he would be working for ROH or Impact by now. But cause he is based in the deep south,he is pretty much unknown outside the area. The name rings a bell for me, and basically, if they came through Hughes' school in-between 2008-2010, I've at least met them.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 26, 2018 23:06:08 GMT -5
Yep it is the small things like that that make me a huge fan of various wrestlers. Since you mentioned Big Cat Curtis Hughes wrestling school. Do you know who Purple Haze Davey Hendrix is? He was trained by Curtis. And now lives in the NOLA area. He is a guy that if he was in the Northeast I am betting he would be working for ROH or Impact by now. But cause he is based in the deep south,he is pretty much unknown outside the area. The name rings a bell for me, and basically, if they came through Hughes' school in-between 2008-2010, I've at least met them. Yep Purp worked there during that time period. If you click the link in my sig I got a few of Purple Hazes matches up on my wrestling Youtube channel. I like how he is able to work heel or face. And knows how to work a crowd.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 27, 2018 1:26:15 GMT -5
I'll shoe shorn this story in, because it involves a wrestler.
Went to see Bret Hart with a friend I work with. He points out a guy in the seats in front of us and tells me a story, "He's from Russia or somewhere from the old USSR. He's English his horrible, but he really wanted a picture of himself while I was driving the Zamboni. [Hank} couldn't understand a word he said and left in frustration."
So Bret starts taking questions from the peanut gallery and the Russian dude is up next, we both think, oh boy here it comes. The dude hands him the mic and Russian guy says, "First of all, on behalf of everyone here, thank you for being here tonight. My question is regarding Survivor Series 1992 and specifically your match with Shawn Michaels, which you won via submission with the sharpshooter at 26:40 seconds, would you please share with us any memories of that match?"
And that sentence I just wrote isn't doing his perfect English any justice, it was so insanely perfect to the point where no English speaking person would ever speak like that.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 27, 2018 6:27:15 GMT -5
Despite his despicable on screen turns as the Big Boss Man and Big Bubba, Ray Traylor was considered by many to be one of the nicest guys in the business.
One notable example was a few years before his passing he donated play structures to a local park in his neighborhood.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Mar 27, 2018 7:19:06 GMT -5
I will always love the story of Stacy Kiebler getting a crush on Kane because he was so nice to her backstage. It's just one of those sweet stories where Kane is just the nicest guy in the industry.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 27, 2018 8:10:32 GMT -5
I will always love the story of Stacy Kiebler getting a crush on Kane because he was so nice to her backstage. It's just one of those sweet stories where Kane is just the nicest guy in the industry. And she told him, his response was to say he was flattered but he's married. Kane turned down Stacy Keibler because he was married. Kane's just that dude.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Mar 27, 2018 12:30:55 GMT -5
Molly Holly paid a lot of Beth Phoenix's tuition fee for OVW and while on the subject of Molly - New Jack likes her - NEW JACK! - that probably says a lot about her character. On that same note, has ANYONE ever had a bad word to say about Molly Holly? Every story I have ever heard about her makes her sound borderline angelic.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 27, 2018 12:49:26 GMT -5
Despite his despicable on screen turns as the Big Boss Man and Big Bubba, Ray Traylor was considered by many to be one of the nicest guys in the business. One notable example was a few years before his passing he donated play structures to a local park in his neighborhood. He also remained stoic once when a driver closed his hand in a door, calmly calling it to his attention and getting the door opened. He then went into the building before hollering out in pain and losing his composure. Cornette asked why he didn't before, and Bossman said he didn't want to sell when the fans were watching, since he was doing the Big Bubba Rogers gimmick, where he didn't sell a whole lot of anything.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 27, 2018 13:03:55 GMT -5
Reading these, it's interesting who gets a reputation as nice, especially since most were famous as jerk heels. Kane, Molly Holly, Mark Henry, Bobby Eaton.
I think Vicki Guerrero gets forgotten as a universally beloved figure. This isn't a backstage story, but I remember on her last night, when she had basically her retirement speech, she explicitly thanked the hair and makeup people. It's a small thing, but it just seemed like a gesture a lot of people wouldn't think to make.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 27, 2018 13:52:27 GMT -5
Despite his despicable on screen turns as the Big Boss Man and Big Bubba, Ray Traylor was considered by many to be one of the nicest guys in the business. One notable example was a few years before his passing he donated play structures to a local park in his neighborhood. This is another one I can confirm. I met Bossman about...4 times throughout my childhood and teens, and he was always a total class act every time.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 28, 2018 8:02:56 GMT -5
Reading these, it's interesting who gets a reputation as nice, especially since most were famous as jerk heels. Kane, Molly Holly, Mark Henry, Bobby Eaton. I think Vicki Guerrero gets forgotten as a universally beloved figure. This isn't a backstage story, but I remember on her last night, when she had basically her retirement speech, she explicitly thanked the hair and makeup people. It's a small thing, but it just seemed like a gesture a lot of people wouldn't think to make. When Torrey Smith left the Niners, he made an Instagram post and in it he thanked a lot of people, but at the end he made sure to thank the janitors and chefs. Stuff like that, tells you a lot. They don't forget the little people, the ones doing "normal" jobs and don't get any glory.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 28, 2018 8:03:38 GMT -5
Let's face it: A lot of the time, when we learn more about wrestlers, it's often not flattering. Still, it's nice to hear charming stories about them, too. One for me is with Sting and Mick Foley. They had a very good match in WCW that for years, Foley considered his best match. Every time he'd see Sting, Sting would ask if it was still Foley's favorite, and for a long time, he answered in the affirmative, and this continued until eventually, he had to tell Sting that the Mind Games match with HBK surpassed it, where Foley couldn't help but feel Sting was disappointed to hear that. Sting had a career of a lot of big time matches, and some classics, so it's kinda sweet that he'd have been enthusiastic about that still, especially since he could have just as easily been jaded or not cared what Foley thought. One of the reasons I will always mark for Sting is because this seems like such a cool thing, especially since Sting really, really didn't want to put Mick over when they first wrestled. A lot of the stories about Kane being a ridiculously nice and intelligent guy behind the scenes bring a smile to my face. I love Foley's 'remind me never to f*** with you' story about Kane from his standup. Tony Atlas told a story about Wahoo McDaniel at Fanfest one year that I always remembered. Tony was just starting in the Carolinas and was catching a ride with Wahoo and some others. They picked him up, and Tony had his second hand gear in a paper bag. Wahoo asked him what he had, Tony answered, and Wahoo said, "Let me see it." The trunks had holes, the boots were flapping at the soles. He hadn't made enough money yet to buy new gear. Wahoo put them back in the bag and tossed them. I can't remember for sure, he may have even told Tony that he wouldn't let him bring stuff in that kind of shape. Either way, Atlas is freaking out because that's all he has. Wahoo hands him a new pair of boots and a new pair of trunks. Before Tony can respond, Wahoo says, "You'll need something better than a paper bag to carry it in," and hands him a Miami Dolphins duffel bag. "His bag, from when he was playing with the Dolphins. The man didn't know me, I was just a kid getting into the business. But he gave me a new set of gear and his own bag from his NFL career. He didn't have to do that." All those years later, Atlas was still getting emotional while talking about it. This is a beautiful story! Actually choked me up a little bit reading it and I have no investment in either wrestler. Any Owen Hart ribs. Where a lot of ribs you here stories about are mean-spirited or just downright cruel, Owen's stuff just sounds like a bit of harmless fun. He probably got under the skin of some people with his pranks, but they never sounded mean-spirited, and that's why everybody seemed to love him. Some of them definitely crossed a line. The one from Foley's first book where he talks about Owen making Mick take a photo with a fan who was filming Chyna's breasts sounds like an asshole move to me. But then I'm dead against pranks in general, so I'm willing to bet that I would hate Owen's guts if I'd been on the road with him (and a shitload of other wrestlers for that matter). Kevin Sullivan reaching out to Nancy's parents and expressing condolences: That's very classy of Sullivan. Didn't know he had this kind of capacity given how much some people hate him. I know CM Punk is kind of a dickhead, but him paying off Joey Mercury's house when it was about to be foreclosed is pretty incredible. Knowing this story makes me instantly feel guilty whenever I think Punk is an asshole or chuckle at his MMA career. Nothing I ever do will amount to making that kind of a difference in someone's life. Mark Henry accidentally hurt someone (I wanna say Lance Storm) during a match. If I remember the story right, he felt so awful about it that he spent the next couple of months carrying Storm's bags around,despite being told that accidents happen and it is no big deal Shit like this is probably part of the reason Henry remained employed after his insanely bloated contract ran out originally. From Sting's HOF speech: "You remember September 20th, night of champions? I'm walking away with the thing, you know, around my neck you know like this and they got me in the ambulance and Seth (Rollins) comes in and says 'Sting! Sting! Are you okay? I don't know what happened' and then they're trying to drive me away saying 'Seth, you gotta let him go, we gotta take him to the hospital for MRI's-' 'Sting, I was you for Halloween!' And he had a shootin' look on his face, too. I know a lot of ya out there probably dressed up as me for Halloween." It's just adorable on so many levels. This is one of the cutest things I've ever heard in my life! Absolutely adorable. I would like to add onto this one the utterly confusing, contradictory stories of Vinny Mac being a class act at the strangest times. Seeing the footage of him telling Bryan before his retirement speech 'take as long as you want, I only ask you end with this' and then doing the 'Yes!' taunt himself; apparently being the first person to make contact with Jeff Jarrett after the latter's wife died; even a bunch of stories of random asides from other wrestlers, like when Foley was thinking about retiring at the peak of WWF's popularity and Vince's immediate response was 'you just had your last match.' Obviously that turned out to be very far from the case, but even so. From personal experience, it's only a minor thing, but I met Toni Storm at an EVE show recently. I've been pretty crazy in my fandom of her since the MYC, and I bought a ticket to this show based on her appearing only originally (I now go to basically every EVE show regardless), but she had an absolutely phenomenal match with Mille McKenzie that was quite unlike anything I'd ever seen live. I told her after the show when she was selling merch that I bought a ticket to see her wrestle, and she asked me if it was worth it. I said it was worth every penny and it was one of the best matches I'd ever seen, and she thanked me and said 'that means everything.' Now maybe that's the shit she says to every fan, but there is a difference between 'cheers bruh' and 'that means everything' when some random, blushing, stuttering mark says your match ruled. This is a slightly weird one, but I think is still applicable. One of my partners has a pretty large amount of social anxiety, but wanted some of Candy Floss's merch, so I went up to Candy to chat to her on my partner's behalf. I had to clarify with her what size she wanted and she answered the XL in a very small, scared voice, because she was quite overwhelmed by the situation. Based on Candy's reaction, she assumed my partner actually had some kind of disability and could not have been nicer or sweeter to either of us.
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