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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 30, 2018 22:49:43 GMT -5
Not yet mentioned: DDP/Sara stalking angle That angle was going pretty well until they decided to change DDP's motivation from "I did it just to get into the Undertaker's head!" to "I did it because I really am infatuated with Sara Calloway and want to make her mine!"
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Post by schma on Mar 31, 2018 1:36:32 GMT -5
It does seem like a ton of the really crap stuff has happened in the past few years, doesn't it? I haven't seen much ranting about how terrible a storyline was in the 1980s or 90s. I think in terms of long running crap storylines how about Lesnar's entire 2014-present run? It's actually not even so much a bad storyline as it is a massively ill advised mega push of a guy that doesn't deserve it and never has. But consider the following: --Brock Lesnar ended The Undertaker's streak at WM 30. --Brock Lesnar then went on to destroy John Cena for the WWE title at Summerslam 2014. He did almost nothing with the belt, was never around, etc. --These two things were done primarily to build up a mega huge heel for Roman Reigns to defeat and cement himself as God's Gift To Wrestling. --For a variety of reasons, Reigns wasn't over. Thus, a change was needed and Rollins cashed in. This led to Rollins's entire awful title run. --Meanwhile, since they didn't get the job out of Lesnar that was required, WWE signed him to ANOTHER 3 year deal so that he could continue to put forth zero effort and bury all credible talent (Ambrose, Orton, etc). --After spending most of 2015 and 2016 not even knowing what to do with Lesnar there was finally a weird idea: Bring back Goldberg. So after Lesnar went over everyone on earth a 50 year old Bill Goldberg returns and demolishes Lesnar in under 90 seconds at Survivor Series. Then punks him at the Rumble just for kicks. --WWE apparently did not grasp that Lesnar's destruction was basically the endgame of the entire character. After all, where does the big bully go once someone kicks the crap out of him? Not to Vince. Lesnar instead goes on to beat Goldberg (who humiliated Kevin Owens here as well in that farce of a title match). --So now Lesnar is, again, a champion. What next? Instead of just getting this Reigns crap over with once and for all WWE holds off for an entire year! In the meantime Lesnar basically squashed any top challenger on Raw. Samoa Joe, Strowman, Kane, Reigns himself at SS, even the WWE champion AJ Styles (which proved Styles is a miracle worker). All of these men went down to a single F5, again just so Reigns can be the guy to kick out of it at WM to the crowd's apathy. --Finally we get to WM season. Reigns at long last finally addresses the elephant in the room, namely that Lesnar is a bum that never wrestles, collects a big paycheck to do very little, and is a waste of time. In fact, the rumors of Lesnar going back to UFC have been around for so long now that this match has been preemptively crapped on, and the build has done a lot to make fans hate Lesnar, but has done nothing to make anyone like Reigns. So we may get a WM 20 redo with both men getting crapped on by the fans. The scary thing about all of this is that Lesnar, his push, and the incessant Reigns deification has left a path of buried wrestlers in its wake a mile long. Taker's streak? Gone. Cena has never really been the same since he was stomped. Rollins had his own awful title run and has never really recovered from it (and Lesnar factored in there too in a match where he destroyed Seth and made him look like a jobber). Dean Ambrose fell victim to Lesnar and his apathetic performances, and took a while to recover from it (debatable as to whether he ever did). Randy Orton was beaten senseless in that idiotic idea for a match, which led to a make up push including a Rumble win that led to the disastrous Bray Wyatt feud with maggots in the ring and the House of Horrors (this might have ended Orton's main event push for good). So the Lesnar plague infected Smackdown's booking as well. Kevin Owens had his title push killed off in order to indirectly feed the beast, and as such Jericho's feud with Owens meant less than it would have. And of course all of the title contenders Lesnar has beaten this year are all worse off because they jobbed in 6 minutes to a guy Goldberg destroyed in 90 seconds. Just review all of that. Let it sink in how many careers have been sabotaged in order to push Brock Lesnar, and indirectly to eventually crown Roman Reigns. The hilarity is that after WM Lesnar is likely to take his ball and go home, while Reigns will be left as champion with no viable contenders since they've all been buried. There were terrible stories in the 80s and 90s for sure. It's just that the past few years are fresh in everyone's mind. If something like this forum existed back then we'd see a lot more examples. Really though, apart from someone scouring the network, most of those bad stories benefit from fading memories. I've also found Brock tiresome for most of this run. When you're the top champ and I genuinely forget who is champ on a regular basis, you fail as champ. I see many insist that he brings legitimacy to WWE but honestly I haven't seen it, particularly since his most recent match was overturned due to him being hopped up. He's just been a blight on everything the past several years and I think we'd be in a much better spot with more stars if he'd done the job for Reigns the first time and then disappeared into the night for good.
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Post by schma on Mar 31, 2018 1:38:44 GMT -5
Not yet mentioned: DDP/Sara stalking angle That angle was going pretty well until they decided to change DDP's motivation from "I did it just to get into the Undertaker's head!" to "I did it because I really am infatuated with Sara Calloway and want to make her mine!" I think a big part of it being crap was he was genuinely one of the biggest stars WCW had produced in the Monday Night War era and he shows up acting like a jobber who wants recognition. "Make me famous". It was a slap in the face to so many people. I was already annoyed with how the WCW roster was being treated but the garbage they handed DDP was criminal.
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 31, 2018 10:18:04 GMT -5
Let's see, the 80s and 90s had a fair share of cheesy Wrestlecrap gimmicks, but I dunno if there were that many terrible storylines. I think it was more due to the show just having Wrestler X vs. Wrestler Y and they just cut promos on each other, that sort of thing. It also helped that if a storyline did suck, they kinda just pulled the plug on it back then. Stuff like the Ken Patera "I'm mad at Heenan because he abandoned me while I was in jail!" storyline.
I guess stuff like the Lex Express was lame too but the payoff was what was really lacking. That's more of a questionable booking move than a terrible angle.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 31, 2018 10:21:54 GMT -5
The Walkout
It was bad enough that the cause of it was the absurd idea that the entire roster were frightened of Truth and the Miz, but it wasted what could have been an interesting and innovative storyline for the sake of trying to portray WWE management, which has been heel since 1997 as the sympathetic side. The worst element of it was having CM Punk turn into HHH's mook.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 31, 2018 13:25:20 GMT -5
Not yet mentioned: DDP/Sara stalking angle That angle was going pretty well until they decided to change DDP's motivation from "I did it just to get into the Undertaker's head!" to "I did it because I really am infatuated with Sara Calloway and want to make her mine!" Then the angle itself was pretty much just Taker ragdolling DDP for almost all of it, culminating in Sara actually winning a match against Page.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 31, 2018 13:40:12 GMT -5
The Walkout It was bad enough that the cause of it was the absurd idea that the entire roster were frightened of Truth and the Miz, but it wasted what could have been an interesting and innovative storyline for the sake of trying to portray WWE management, which has been heel since 1997 as the sympathetic side. The worst element of it was having CM Punk turn into HHH's mook. Not to get into politics, but I think anyone would dislike their mockery of Occupy Wall Street there for the heavy-handedness alone.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Mar 31, 2018 13:49:36 GMT -5
The Walkout It was bad enough that the cause of it was the absurd idea that the entire roster were frightened of Truth and the Miz, but it wasted what could have been an interesting and innovative storyline for the sake of trying to portray WWE management, which has been heel since 1997 as the sympathetic side. The worst element of it was having CM Punk turn into HHH's mook. “But Hunter, we’re girls.” Why Beth Phoenix agreed to bury her own division is beyond me.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 31, 2018 13:59:27 GMT -5
Aherm ![](http://capricorncity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Little-Peoples-Court.jpg)
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 31, 2018 13:59:54 GMT -5
The Authority also led to 4 weeks in a Row where both Raw and Smackdown ended with them kicking Bryan's ass. Boring. There was that Raw that ended with the midcard faces ganging up on the Shield. That was kinda awesome.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 31, 2018 21:19:04 GMT -5
That angle was going pretty well until they decided to change DDP's motivation from "I did it just to get into the Undertaker's head!" to "I did it because I really am infatuated with Sara Calloway and want to make her mine!" I think a big part of it being crap was he was genuinely one of the biggest stars WCW had produced in the Monday Night War era and he shows up acting like a jobber who wants recognition. "Make me famous". It was a slap in the face to so many people. I was already annoyed with how the WCW roster was being treated but the garbage they handed DDP was criminal. Ya know, the stalker angle was a great way to introduce a WCW character. I would have had no problem with it. You could have made a star in a hurry with it. But they chose DDP, a guy who was already a star and did his best work as an underdog babyface. So naturally, they make him a cowardly heel. Like why not just set a bunch of money on fire instead of doing all of that? It would have been faster to accomplish and produced the exact same result.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Mar 31, 2018 21:36:08 GMT -5
Wait...Brock hired MMA goons to pretend to be US Marshals?
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Mar 31, 2018 22:11:22 GMT -5
Not necessarily the worst by a long stretch but this whole Rousey Mania match is a bit of a clusterf***. I'm just watching the hype package from Raw:
"She's in our world now, we're great atheletes, we know everything about our world.........also how embarrassing will it be if she's beat by an executive?"
Contradictory sentiments, literally sentences apart
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 1, 2018 6:11:59 GMT -5
Alexa spends weeks and weeks saying Bayley is too much of a coward to use weapons. The grand finale of this story: Bayley is too much of a coward to use weapons. And that's not even getting into the 'Bayley is a virgin and a loser for liking wrestling rather than going shopping!" parts of the feud.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 1, 2018 8:07:43 GMT -5
The Bella Twin feud of 2014 is baffling. Despite the bad acting and awful segments, it all made sense up to around November. They even had a solid little match at Hell in a Cell. Then, Brie helped Nikki wins the Divas Title. Still, I gave it the benefit of the doubt, hoping it meant Brie did it so she could challenge Nikki. Instead, she magically became friends with Nikki again with zero explanation.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 1, 2018 8:46:25 GMT -5
I think a big part of it being crap was he was genuinely one of the biggest stars WCW had produced in the Monday Night War era and he shows up acting like a jobber who wants recognition. "Make me famous". It was a slap in the face to so many people. I was already annoyed with how the WCW roster was being treated but the garbage they handed DDP was criminal. Ya know, the stalker angle was a great way to introduce a WCW character. I would have had no problem with it. You could have made a star in a hurry with it. But they chose DDP, a guy who was already a star and did his best work as an underdog babyface. So naturally, they make him a cowardly heel. Like why not just set a bunch of money on fire instead of doing all of that? It would have been faster to accomplish and produced the exact same result. I heard that there were plans to do The Rock vs. DDP in a battle of fan-favorite "People's Champions". Why they didn't go with that baffles the mind.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 1, 2018 11:24:13 GMT -5
Kane rapes and impregnates Lita. Lita gets attacked and has a miscarriage. This makes Kane a babyface. Yeah this is the winner. Whoever pitched that should've been fired the minute it came out of their mouths
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Post by chrom on Apr 1, 2018 12:05:52 GMT -5
Ya know, the stalker angle was a great way to introduce a WCW character. I would have had no problem with it. You could have made a star in a hurry with it. But they chose DDP, a guy who was already a star and did his best work as an underdog babyface. So naturally, they make him a cowardly heel. Like why not just set a bunch of money on fire instead of doing all of that? It would have been faster to accomplish and produced the exact same result. I heard that there were plans to do The Rock vs. DDP in a battle of fan-favorite "People's Champions". Why they didn't go with that baffles the mind. Because that would involve making a WCW guy look good
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Post by Yacht Persona on Apr 1, 2018 13:04:56 GMT -5
"Hawk is an alcoholic" angle.
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Post by axebomber on Apr 1, 2018 15:31:46 GMT -5
I think a big part of it being crap was he was genuinely one of the biggest stars WCW had produced in the Monday Night War era and he shows up acting like a jobber who wants recognition. "Make me famous". It was a slap in the face to so many people. I was already annoyed with how the WCW roster was being treated but the garbage they handed DDP was criminal. Ya know, the stalker angle was a great way to introduce a WCW character. I would have had no problem with it. You could have made a star in a hurry with it. But they chose DDP, a guy who was already a star and did his best work as an underdog babyface. So naturally, they make him a cowardly heel. Like why not just set a bunch of money on fire instead of doing all of that? It would have been faster to accomplish and produced the exact same result. Yeah it would been a perfectly fine thing to do with a lesser known guy like Jindrak or Palumbo.
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