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Post by bigsteviecool on Mar 30, 2018 13:32:19 GMT -5
Ok I know that there was some awful ones but which particular storyline in WCW and ECW was the worst of all & why?
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 30, 2018 13:38:13 GMT -5
For WCW this one is easy to me: The Hummer Angle. There has never been a more illogical, drawn out, idiotic storyline ever. For ECW it is a bit trickier. I guess the whole Network storyline was a real bad idea in ECW, since it came off petty and actually hurt the company in terms of getting a new TV deal. I'd say the failure to properly elevate Rob Van Dam to the ECW world title was Heyman's biggest booking blunder, but that's more of something that didn't happen than a terrible storyline.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 30, 2018 13:39:33 GMT -5
For WCW I'm going to say the worst storyline was the Back Scorpion. According to Jim Cornette Ole Anderson never had an idea for who the Scorpion was supposed to be and they only settled on Flair at the last minute when they realized they had booked themselves into a corner and needed an out. The whole thing made Sting look like a geek and didn't do too much for Flair either because why in the hell would Ric Flair decide to dress-up in a goofy costume just to get a title match?
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 30, 2018 15:23:43 GMT -5
For WCW I'm going to say the worst storyline was the Back Scorpion. According to Jim Cornette Ole Anderson never had an idea for who the Scorpion was supposed to be and they only settled on Flair at the last minute when they realized they had booked themselves into a corner and needed an out. The whole thing made Sting look like a geek and didn't do too much for Flair either because why in the hell would Ric Flair decide to dress-up in a goofy costume just to get a title match? I really liked the Black Scorpion angle, in a 'so bad it's good' kinda way. The pay off doesn't make any sense though, you're right. I don't know about the worst ECW angle, but I think the whole Beulah, Kimona, Dreamer "I'll take 'em both" angle was, yeah 'edgy', but is cringy as hell.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 30, 2018 15:54:00 GMT -5
WCW: Will Goldberg follow the script?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 30, 2018 16:03:03 GMT -5
I mean a lot of the post fall 1998 stuff was all just awful. But... the die had been cast at that point. Whereas the earlier stuff was both bad and damaging.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 30, 2018 16:41:57 GMT -5
In my opinion,
WCW. Hulk Hogan throwing The Giant of a building. Then Giant returns and gang bangs Hogan with the YETHAY!! Fun story, before debuting as the yeti, Ron Reis asked Arn Anderson for advice, Arn told him to be a monster, when Reis returned backstage, Arn stared at him and said "Rewind what I just said and go kill yourself!"
ECW. Lou E Dangerously was embarrassing, also Aldo Montoya as the top guy.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Mar 30, 2018 17:12:25 GMT -5
For WCW I'm going to say the worst storyline was the Back Scorpion. According to Jim Cornette Ole Anderson never had an idea for who the Scorpion was supposed to be and they only settled on Flair at the last minute when they realized they had booked themselves into a corner and needed an out. The whole thing made Sting look like a geek and didn't do too much for Flair either because why in the hell would Ric Flair decide to dress-up in a goofy costume just to get a title match? What's great about the Scorpion is that Ole didn't want to book it in the first place. Herd was dumping on everything Ole was pitching, insisting that they needed something big, something different. Finally, Ole wrote, "Sting vs the Black Scorpion" on a booking sheet and turned it in to Herd. "That's great, that's what we need!" "Jim, it was a joke. There is no Black Scorpion." "No, it's great, use it!" "Jim...there is no Black Scorpion! It's just a name." "But it's a great name! Use it!" According to Tony Schiavone, Ole (never known for his sense of humor) used to play with the Black Scorpion voice box gimmick backstage to amuse the boys. "Sting... you dumb motherf***er... don't you know that we have no end for this angle?" "STING!... You stupid son of a bitch!... Don't you know... we're all f***ed!"
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Post by adamclark52 on Mar 30, 2018 21:25:59 GMT -5
Does the Alliance Invasion count?
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 31, 2018 0:15:56 GMT -5
I don't remember all the specifics, but in WCW, Goldberg had to beat his streak again for a title shot or something. So he's literally doing nothing but five second squash matches, and even better, just walking out after other matches to Jackhammer the guys who were in the match to pin them and up his total.
It was so dumb, he's "winning" matches he was never in or that were ever officially made or started.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 31, 2018 2:00:04 GMT -5
I don't remember all the specifics, but in WCW, Goldberg had to beat his streak again for a title shot or something. So he's literally doing nothing but five second squash matches, and even better, just walking out after other matches to Jackhammer the guys who were in the match to pin them and up his total. It was so dumb, he's "winning" matches he was never in or that were ever officially made or started. That would be fine if it wasn't something he was told he "must" do, but that the character decided, "f*** you, he's another streak", and was going Kane on guys until his demands were given into. But obviously, that's not how it was executed or set up, so that's pretty dumb. I'd also nominate another Goldberg one, with the Miss Elizabeth stalking storyline. Just... I get that the conceit behind it, but Goldberg was too green to be carrying talking segments to begin with, much less a really skeevy one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 2:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by axebomber on Mar 31, 2018 8:34:27 GMT -5
New Blood vs Millionaires club was pretty terrible.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 31, 2018 10:06:56 GMT -5
Justin Credible winning the ECW title.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 31, 2018 10:08:31 GMT -5
edit: sorry for the double post
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 11:21:56 GMT -5
Terry Funk turning heel on Dreamer based off of N2R 1998 (Dreamer choosing to pick Jake Roberts as his tag partner instead of Terry because "he respects that Funk needed to rest" or some BS like that) pretty much went nowhere.
Fans weren't going to boo Terry Funk anymore. If anything, they'd sooner dump all over Dreamer again.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 31, 2018 16:03:38 GMT -5
Terry Funk turning heel on Dreamer based off of N2R 1998 (Dreamer choosing to pick Jake Roberts as his tag partner instead of Terry because "he respects that Funk needed to rest" or some BS like that) pretty much went nowhere. Fans weren't going to boo Terry Funk anymore. If anything, they'd sooner dump all over Dreamer again. Not just that, but even during that time, Terry Funk was also siding with Justin Credible, but that went nowhere either. It was supposed to set up something for Living Dangerously, but then it went into an angle go that involvd Shane Douglas, who turned face, not to mention was on his way out.
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 31, 2018 16:46:38 GMT -5
For WCW this one is easy to me: The Hummer Angle. There has never been a more illogical, drawn out, idiotic storyline ever. For ECW it is a bit trickier. I guess the whole Network storyline was a real bad idea in ECW, since it came off petty and actually hurt the company in terms of getting a new TV deal. I'd say the failure to properly elevate Rob Van Dam to the ECW world title was Heyman's biggest booking blunder, but that's more of something that didn't happen than a terrible storyline. I think it was subtly revealed Eric Bischoff did it. Still doesn't change the angle. Sad thing is, it was the one thing WCW had that could compete with the soap opera type stories RAW had. They messed it up. Thinking about WCW in 1999, so much stuff was messed up, and it could've been pretty solid. Imagine this: Top of the card with face Hollywood Hogan, Kevin Nash and Sting as part timers. Goldberg, DDP, Booker T and Ric Flair as top faces. Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Scott Steiner and Buff Bagwell as top heels. Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Rey Mysterio, Kidman, Saturn, Raven, Barry Windham and Curt Hennig feuding for the US title and main eventing shows with the other top guys. Eddie Guerrero (personal demons aside) as a face at the top of the CW division, feuding with the former lWo guys. Newer arrivals like Norman Smiley and Vampiro, plus Sandman and Bigelow mixing some things up. On paper, it looks awesome, it fell so flat. Sorry for the tangent.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 31, 2018 16:53:46 GMT -5
New Blood vs Millionaires club was pretty terrible. Didn't Hogan have a lot to do with that? It could have been really good if he wanted to help the young guys.
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 31, 2018 17:05:18 GMT -5
See, I know they did some goofy Bischoff/Hummer nonsense in 2000 but that seemed more like a dark comedy gag than a serious reveal that Bischoff was the driver. I mean...why? Nash still turned heel during the unresolved angle, which was hilarious since we were supposed to hate whoever did this dastardly deed initially, so once Nash turned heel on the newly face Hogan was the driver now right to do this? Just the worst.
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