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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 31, 2018 17:16:09 GMT -5
WCW: Will Goldberg follow the script?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 31, 2018 17:18:26 GMT -5
New Blood vs Millionaires club was pretty terrible. Didn't Hogan have a lot to do with that? It could have been really good if he wanted to help the young guys. Ha. Hogan help the young guys.
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Post by axebomber on Mar 31, 2018 17:21:13 GMT -5
New Blood vs Millionaires club was pretty terrible. Didn't Hogan have a lot to do with that? It could have been really good if he wanted to help the young guys. Yeah. I remember him feuding with Kidman.
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Post by government mule on Mar 31, 2018 18:02:46 GMT -5
For WCW, anything to do with Cheatum, the evil one eyed midget, especially when he tried to blow Sting and Davey-Boy Smith's boat up.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 31, 2018 18:10:34 GMT -5
WCW: Will Goldberg follow the script? Which somehow despite all the worked shoots, led to probably the best match "Can't wrestle anymore" Steiner and "Couldn't wrestle in the first place" Goldberg could have put together in 2000
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Post by bob on Mar 31, 2018 18:49:34 GMT -5
WCW - so so many to pick from
I’ll go with Millionaires Club vs New Blood, could’ve worked if the young guys were the faces this would’ve been much better and helped the company much more
ECW - I never saw it until they were on TNN so I’m working my way through their content on the network
The dumbest thing I’ve seen so far is Lou E Dangerously
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 31, 2018 19:36:00 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan have a lot to do with that? It could have been really good if he wanted to help the young guys. Ha. Hogan help the young guys. And the often inaccurate "blood baths" from the ceiling. Did Hogan ever get one? Yeah, it could have been a decent feud, but as mentioned, Hogan is a paranoid control freak, and he had to come out on top.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 31, 2018 19:44:59 GMT -5
The New Blood/Millionaire's Club storyline was bad, I mean a group called Millionaires doesn't sound like a bunch of babyfaces.
As for the Kidman/Hogan feud, I would have had someone like Booker, Mike Awesome, Shane Douglas or Vampiro feuding with Hogan in his place.
The Savage/Nash feud from May-June 1999 stunk big time.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Mar 31, 2018 20:21:01 GMT -5
For WCW, anything to do with Cheatum, the evil one eyed midget, especially when he tried to blow Sting Thank god you continued this sentence with "....and Davey Boy Smith's boat up."
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 31, 2018 21:09:30 GMT -5
The Savage/Nash feud from May-June 1999 stunk big time. Considering that raw sewage was a major plot point during a portion of that angle that description is pretty fitting. (Although I did get a small chuckle at the fake septic service sponsorship spot they aired at the end of one those segments.)
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Post by chazraps on Mar 31, 2018 21:17:06 GMT -5
ECW: Mike Awesome vs. Spike Dudley
As ECW was emerging in the TNN era, this gets either dismissed for how it looked on paper or overshadowed in the booking that followed, but this is where ECW hit the iceberg.
Spike Dudley was a beloved original and ECW lifer whom the fans had organically gotten behind.
Paul legit slowly built Spike up as a credible threat to the title. He was a legitimate giant killer who was also a beloved babyface.
Mike Awesome was the unbeatable ECW champion whom nobody could take out.
Mike Awesome performs perhaps the most brutal and uncomfortable man-on-woman violence in North American wrestling history, shoot knocking out Spike's girlfriend's front teeth.
So here you head towards the pay-per-view with a babyface who has been legitimized and being able to conquer the insurmountable odds, going against the towering unbeatable brute whose assault on Spike's loved one made it extra personal and got the crowd firmly behind Spike.
...and then Mike Awesome won.
At the time, ECW was actually building an audience with women because of how well Spike's romance was being handled, it was nuanced and believable. This would have been the perfect love conquering all story, giving everyone a feel good moment and getting the belt off of Awesome so he wouldn't show up on WCW a month later as ECW champion.
It's one of those situations like Triple H-Booker T at Mania 19 where because of the feud, you absolutely have to have the babyface win, or else you drive away your audience.
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Post by cjh on Mar 31, 2018 21:35:39 GMT -5
ECW: Mike Awesome vs. Spike Dudley As ECW was emerging in the TNN era, this gets either dismissed for how it looked on paper or overshadowed in the booking that followed, but this is where ECW hit the iceberg. Spike Dudley was a beloved original and ECW lifer whom the fans had organically gotten behind. Paul legit slowly built Spike up as a credible threat to the title. He was a legitimate giant killer who was also a beloved babyface. Mike Awesome was the unbeatable ECW champion whom nobody could take out. Mike Awesome performs perhaps the most brutal and uncomfortable man-on-woman violence in North American wrestling history, shoot knocking out Spike's girlfriend's front teeth. So here you head towards the pay-per-view with a babyface who has been legitimized and being able to conquer the insurmountable odds, going against the towering unbeatable brute whose assault on Spike's loved one made it extra personal and got the crowd firmly behind Spike. ...and then Mike Awesome won. At the time, ECW was actually building an audience with women because of how well Spike's romance was being handled, it was nuanced and believable. This would have been the perfect love conquering all story, giving everyone a feel good moment and getting the belt off of Awesome so he wouldn't show up on WCW a month later as ECW champion.It's one of those situations like Triple H-Booker T at Mania 19 where because of the feud, you absolutely have to have the babyface win, or else you drive away your audience. I watched ECW all the time back then and have absolutely no recollection of that woman being on TV besides getting clotheslined by Awesome and the promo afterwards that Spike did with her where she showed her missing teeth.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 1, 2018 1:27:53 GMT -5
WCW: Goldberg's 'script' problems.
ECW: The TNN Network angle.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 1, 2018 2:43:57 GMT -5
ECW: Mike Awesome vs. Spike Dudley As ECW was emerging in the TNN era, this gets either dismissed for how it looked on paper or overshadowed in the booking that followed, but this is where ECW hit the iceberg. Spike Dudley was a beloved original and ECW lifer whom the fans had organically gotten behind. Paul legit slowly built Spike up as a credible threat to the title. He was a legitimate giant killer who was also a beloved babyface. Mike Awesome was the unbeatable ECW champion whom nobody could take out. Mike Awesome performs perhaps the most brutal and uncomfortable man-on-woman violence in North American wrestling history, shoot knocking out Spike's girlfriend's front teeth. So here you head towards the pay-per-view with a babyface who has been legitimized and being able to conquer the insurmountable odds, going against the towering unbeatable brute whose assault on Spike's loved one made it extra personal and got the crowd firmly behind Spike. ...and then Mike Awesome won. At the time, ECW was actually building an audience with women because of how well Spike's romance was being handled, it was nuanced and believable. This would have been the perfect love conquering all story, giving everyone a feel good moment and getting the belt off of Awesome so he wouldn't show up on WCW a month later as ECW champion. It's one of those situations like Triple H-Booker T at Mania 19 where because of the feud, you absolutely have to have the babyface win, or else you drive away your audience. I cut them some slack because they actually had a plan. They wanted RVD to beat Awesome for the ECW Title, so that was all to get more heat on Awesome to set up RVD as the guy who slays him. RVD got injured before that could happen, and Awesome left for WCW.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 1, 2018 3:09:23 GMT -5
ECW: Mike Awesome vs. Spike Dudley As ECW was emerging in the TNN era, this gets either dismissed for how it looked on paper or overshadowed in the booking that followed, but this is where ECW hit the iceberg. Spike Dudley was a beloved original and ECW lifer whom the fans had organically gotten behind. Paul legit slowly built Spike up as a credible threat to the title. He was a legitimate giant killer who was also a beloved babyface. Mike Awesome was the unbeatable ECW champion whom nobody could take out. Mike Awesome performs perhaps the most brutal and uncomfortable man-on-woman violence in North American wrestling history, shoot knocking out Spike's girlfriend's front teeth. So here you head towards the pay-per-view with a babyface who has been legitimized and being able to conquer the insurmountable odds, going against the towering unbeatable brute whose assault on Spike's loved one made it extra personal and got the crowd firmly behind Spike. ...and then Mike Awesome won. At the time, ECW was actually building an audience with women because of how well Spike's romance was being handled, it was nuanced and believable. This would have been the perfect love conquering all story, giving everyone a feel good moment and getting the belt off of Awesome so he wouldn't show up on WCW a month later as ECW champion. It's one of those situations like Triple H-Booker T at Mania 19 where because of the feud, you absolutely have to have the babyface win, or else you drive away your audience. I cut them some slack because they actually had a plan. They wanted RVD to beat Awesome for the ECW Title, so that was all to get more heat on Awesome to set up RVD as the guy who slays him. RVD got injured before that could happen, and Awesome left for WCW. Was RVD supposed to slay him at November 2 Remember?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 1, 2018 4:28:26 GMT -5
I cut them some slack because they actually had a plan. They wanted RVD to beat Awesome for the ECW Title, so that was all to get more heat on Awesome to set up RVD as the guy who slays him. RVD got injured before that could happen, and Awesome left for WCW. Was RVD supposed to slay him at November 2 Remember? They were setting it up for Living Dangerously. Awesome beat Spike at Guilty as Charged, RVD retained the TV Title at that same ppv, and they were building to Champion vs Champion at Living Dangerously, but RVD got injured at the end of January. They didn't know what the f*** to do with Awesome's reign after that.
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Post by grungesmurf on Apr 1, 2018 6:45:54 GMT -5
ECW crucifixition angle.
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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 1, 2018 14:38:54 GMT -5
For WCW I hated when Brian Pillman had to become the Yellow Dog when he was pinned by Barry Windham in a loser leave town match. Its an angle that worked for Dusty in Florida in like 83, 84 with Windham, and he decided to recycle it.
Brian Pillman was on the cusp of higher card status, especially after Vicious legit killing him in War Games, and Dusty saddles him with this lame old gimmick. And Windham never once said "I did the same thing. I was Yellow Dog!" They had Tom Zenk under the mask too, like "Its not Pillman!", but it just went nowhere and really pushed Pillman down the card real quick.
I cant think of anything that bothered me much about an ECW storyline, but I disliked the Beulah pregnancy storyline.
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Post by efarns on Apr 2, 2018 17:42:13 GMT -5
The Powers That Be taking over WCW. Vince Russo just scrapped every storyline that WCW had. In their place was a storyline about Vince Russo as an authority figure.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 2, 2018 22:50:24 GMT -5
Booker gets his "T" legally taken away.
Stupidest. Storyline. Ever.
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