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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 19, 2023 22:36:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the additional costs for big movies were as bloated when Batman Begins came out compared to nowadays. But yeah, even if it was the same bloat, any less-than-stellar net at the box office were more than made up for with home video sales. And then Dark Knight was a legit billion dollar movie while its budget was only $35 million more than Begins. TDKR was also a billion dollar hit, but it had a much higher budget than either previous movie. Up until 2010 or so taking twice the production cost at the box office would generally bring a movie into profit, as studios tended to not go big with advertising as the home video market was in a boom period, thus a moderate hit or a small loss at the box office could still generate huge profits over the financial year. As the home video market has declined over the last 13 years studios have progressively spent more on advertising to get people into the theatres, which has seen the profitability margin go up to 2.5x and even 2.75x.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 19, 2023 22:43:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the additional costs for big movies were as bloated when Batman Begins came out compared to nowadays. But yeah, even if it was the same bloat, any less-than-stellar net at the box office were more than made up for with home video sales. And then Dark Knight was a legit billion dollar movie while its budget was only $35 million more than Begins. TDKR was also a billion dollar hit, but it had a much higher budget than either previous movie. and as stated after the critical and commercial failure of Batman and Robin them getting a massive critical and fan reaction would likely keep it afloat for a second movie of some kind.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 20, 2023 0:43:00 GMT -5
Batman Begins made over twice its budget back in the box office. It was also the ninth highest grossing film of 2005, and the second highest grossing Batman film. I'd say it did more than barely turned a profit. Nah, he's not wrong : 373 M$ (technically, 371 M$ before the 2012 rerelease) over a 150M budget is barely turning a profit (the basic Hollywood accounting math is 2.5 times the budget to turn a profit). That said, it clearly made up for this in home video sales. Batman Begins had a $150 mil. budget? That seems really high
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 20, 2023 1:08:49 GMT -5
Nah, he's not wrong : 373 M$ (technically, 371 M$ before the 2012 rerelease) over a 150M budget is barely turning a profit (the basic Hollywood accounting math is 2.5 times the budget to turn a profit). That said, it clearly made up for this in home video sales. Batman Begins had a $150 mil. budget? That seems really high They built the Tumbler from the ground up, a full-size Batcave, and a set of the Narrows and Gotham highway that spanned several blocks and was large enough for cars to drive around it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 20, 2023 1:33:11 GMT -5
They built the Tumbler from the ground up, a full-size Batcave, and a set of the Narrows and Gotham highway that spanned several blocks and was large enough for cars to drive around it. Four Tumblers, at a cost of $250,000 apiece, not including several months of R&D. They built a village halfway up the Vatnajökull glacier in Iceland, plus a road through the wilderness to get there. A good chunk of the League of Shadows' temple was also built on location. Nolan also doesn't use second unit on his films, which also inflates the cost as everything takes longer. He also shot in five cities in four different countries, not cheap when you're hauling your best production crew all around the world.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 20, 2023 13:19:21 GMT -5
Batman Begins made over twice its budget back in the box office. It was also the ninth highest grossing film of 2005, and the second highest grossing Batman film. I'd say it did more than barely turned a profit. Nah, he's not wrong : 373 M$ (technically, 371 M$ before the 2012 rerelease) over a 150M budget is barely turning a profit (the basic Hollywood accounting math is 2.5 times the budget to turn a profit). That said, it clearly made up for this in home video sales. I miss the days when physical media could have an impact like that. The most famous case was the Family Guy DVD sales helping to bring the series back, of course, but it's easy to forget how it had affected other series and movies. I just finished watching the bluray of Clerks 3, and Kevin Smith recorded a specific thank you at the beginning of the disc to those who bought a physical copy of the movie.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 20, 2023 15:45:56 GMT -5
The cryptic vid deal is a con where they're watching his movies w him.
Told ya so
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Post by Zombie Mod on Mar 20, 2023 16:02:50 GMT -5
Nah, he's not wrong : 373 M$ (technically, 371 M$ before the 2012 rerelease) over a 150M budget is barely turning a profit (the basic Hollywood accounting math is 2.5 times the budget to turn a profit). That said, it clearly made up for this in home video sales. I miss the days when physical media could have an impact like that. The most famous case was the Family Guy DVD sales helping to bring the series back, of course, but it's easy to forget how it had affected other series and movies. I just finished watching the bluray of Clerks 3, and Kevin Smith recorded a specific thank you at the beginning of the disc to those who bought a physical copy of the movie. I think physical media will make a brief comeback, the streaming bubble is going to burst due to every company and their dog having their own service and greed is kicking in (netflix's anti-sharing account stance for example.) and all it takes is the internet companies to start restricting bandwidth for more money and streaming services are screwed.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Mar 20, 2023 16:17:32 GMT -5
The cryptic vid deal is a con where they're watching his movies w him. Told ya so MST3K style crapping on the films or zero buys.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 20, 2023 16:25:06 GMT -5
MST3K style crapping on the films or zero buys. The first time he did this we got the genesis of this thread: him smugly pointing out incredibly obvious details as if they were cleverly hidden details that he never expected anybody to be clever enough to notice by themselves. I'll happily take that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 20, 2023 17:16:19 GMT -5
The cryptic vid deal is a con where they're watching his movies w him. Told ya so MST3K style crapping on the films or zero buys. Most of The Snyderbros are joyless they'd see even light hearted ribbing as a personal affront.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 20, 2023 21:55:16 GMT -5
I miss the days when physical media could have an impact like that. The most famous case was the Family Guy DVD sales helping to bring the series back, of course, but it's easy to forget how it had affected other series and movies. I just finished watching the bluray of Clerks 3, and Kevin Smith recorded a specific thank you at the beginning of the disc to those who bought a physical copy of the movie. I think physical media will make a brief comeback, the streaming bubble is going to burst due to every company and their dog having their own service and greed is kicking in (netflix's anti-sharing account stance for example.) and all it takes is the internet companies to start restricting bandwidth for more money and streaming services are screwed. Hell, Zaslav is pushing it closer to bursting by the day, terminating whole shows so that they're lost outside of pirating. Man is a walking Aesop in the importance of physical media.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 20, 2023 22:11:18 GMT -5
I miss the days when physical media could have an impact like that. The most famous case was the Family Guy DVD sales helping to bring the series back, of course, but it's easy to forget how it had affected other series and movies. I just finished watching the bluray of Clerks 3, and Kevin Smith recorded a specific thank you at the beginning of the disc to those who bought a physical copy of the movie. I think physical media will make a brief comeback, the streaming bubble is going to burst due to every company and their dog having their own service and greed is kicking in (netflix's anti-sharing account stance for example.) and all it takes is the internet companies to start restricting bandwidth for more money and streaming services are screwed. I can appreciate a side effect of the shrinking market of physical media, that you have companies like Arrow and Scream! Factory making deluxe editions to attract more collector-based buyers. I'm a sucker for such things. I wish WWE would do that with some of their classic PPVs, like a deluxe collector's edition of WM3 or SSlam 1992.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 21, 2023 1:19:26 GMT -5
Nah, he's not wrong : 373 M$ (technically, 371 M$ before the 2012 rerelease) over a 150M budget is barely turning a profit (the basic Hollywood accounting math is 2.5 times the budget to turn a profit). That said, it clearly made up for this in home video sales. I miss the days when physical media could have an impact like that. The most famous case was the Family Guy DVD sales helping to bring the series back, of course, but it's easy to forget how it had affected other series and movies. I just finished watching the bluray of Clerks 3, and Kevin Smith recorded a specific thank you at the beginning of the disc to those who bought a physical copy of the movie. Serenity getting made in large part thanks to the big sales of Firefly's complete series DVD.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 21, 2023 1:25:20 GMT -5
I think physical media will make a brief comeback, the streaming bubble is going to burst due to every company and their dog having their own service and greed is kicking in (netflix's anti-sharing account stance for example.) and all it takes is the internet companies to start restricting bandwidth for more money and streaming services are screwed. Hell, Zaslav is pushing it closer to bursting by the day, terminating whole shows so that they're lost outside of pirating. Man is a walking Aesop in the importance of physical media. I was poking around on the Cartoon Network hub on HBO Max earlier and it's astounding to see how hollow it is now. Only 42 entries there and if you combine every listing for Adventure Time, Ben 10, Foster's, Kids Next Door, Powerpuff Girls, Regular Show, Steven Universe, Teen Titans, and We Bare Bears that number drops to a paper-thin 24.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 21, 2023 1:31:06 GMT -5
Rebel Moon will be Star Wars in slo-mo.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 21, 2023 1:57:20 GMT -5
Rebel Moon will be Star Wars Battle Beyond the Stars in slo-mo. Fixed.
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Post by thechase on Mar 23, 2023 5:05:45 GMT -5
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Post by ayumidah on Mar 23, 2023 18:03:19 GMT -5
So I follow a few The Last Of Us fan accounts and just clicked on one of their recent tweets to see what was being said on it... just to see people are spamming the Snyderverse/Ayer Cut hashtags on THOSE tweets. Yeah, that'll sure show this... fan-run account that doesn't actually have any tie in to HBO Max... ?
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 23, 2023 18:13:32 GMT -5
"Zack Snyder's The Last of Us"
A scary thought.
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