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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jun 23, 2018 1:03:06 GMT -5
THERE'S the Son Of Whyachi we've been waiting for.
SawBlaze may be a dark horse to win it all, but Mohawk is simply awful.
Mecha Rampage is another one that isn't really that good. Whiplash, eh, it might make the 16 but I think there's plenty of bots that could have its number.
And the battle of joke robots! Overhaul did quite well until it somehow got stuck. Still got the win, though.
End Game blew it. Bite Force should have been toast after that first huge hit and End Game never made a move to finish the job. So it'll be interesting to see if they can rebound in their final fight. Bite Force, meanwhile, looks like a favorite to reclaim their crown.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 23, 2018 4:31:00 GMT -5
THERE'S the Son Of Whyachi we've been waiting for. SawBlaze may be a dark horse to win it all, but Mohawk is simply awful. Mecha Rampage is another one that isn't really that good. Whiplash, eh, it might make the 16 but I think there's plenty of bots that could have its number. And the battle of joke robots! Overhaul did quite well until it somehow got stuck. Still got the win, though. End Game blew it. Bite Force should have been toast after that first huge hit and End Game never made a move to finish the job. So it'll be interesting to see if they can rebound in their final fight. Bite Force, meanwhile, looks like a favorite to reclaim their crown. The thing is the first hit kinda temporarily killed both Bite Force and End Game’s drum. Bite Force ceased moving and when End Game righted via their drum(ie what Bombshell intends to do), the impact with the floor that righted them also killed the drum for pretty much the entire time Bite Force was in a coma. It only came back to life right before the second clash. So even if End Game wanted to attack Bite Force, they really couldn’t. Also, SawBlaze is SawBae. The team behind the classic bot SOB would be proud(Jamison Go based SawBlaze on that robot). With SawBlaze and Bite Force moving to 3-0, they are basically locked in for the Sweet 16(all the 4-0 and 3-1 robots should be locks, the real blood bath will be the 2-2s).
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Post by karl100589 on Jun 23, 2018 5:17:26 GMT -5
Well, this episode was a dud. Sawblaze did well against Reality, but then Monsoon almost caused a Double KO, Captain Shrederator managed to knock itself out, Chomp flopped and yet Warrior Dragon only got a split win ( ?), and the only saving grace was Bronco pulling off a Robot Wars-style Out Of The Arena KO on Bombshell. Hopefully next week is better, and hopefully I don't have to see more Jurassic World stuff either as I have nothing but contempt for that series of films. I am now a believer in Jamison Go and SawBlaze. He just had Reality at his mercy, and SawBlaze can just cut at will. It was even able to cut into Reality’s drum. I know drums are hollow, but even then that’s still some thick metal to cut into. Monsoon’s blade is vicious, but this is definitely a season 1.0-like Hazard, ie, impressive weapon, but it breaks down early in the fight after enough big hits. It wasn’t even actually mobile at the end, just it’s fidgeting was enough to trick the refs that it was mobile. Honestly they are lucky they ruptured Petunia’s hydraulics early because that would have gotten ugly with their blade stopped. Shrederator is just a dated design at this point if people can point to it and reliably say, “Just smash it into the wall once and it breaks.” That’s happened in both of its fights this season. SubZero may have gotten its ass kicked against Icewave in season 2 and HUGE in this season, but it is deceptive, as it managed to survive to the end of both fights. Thing is a tank basically. I am freaking sick of the Roman Reigns-like push of, “You will like them!” they keep doing with Chomp. It started in season 2 when they introduced Chomp as a fan favorite despite them being a robot that went 0-2 and was completely forgotten about in season 1 of the reboot. And they are still pushing this narrative despite most people hating Chomp because no robot in season 2 benefitted more from the revamped judging rules heavily favoring active weapon use, so Chomp would score a small number of hits you could count on one hand and they’d still have the edge in weapon hits because their opponents’ weapons died early.
I just don’t get why they are pushing Chomp so much either. It has impressive tech inside, sure, but it is a shit combat robot. You know you’ve built a stupidly overly complex and over designed hammer bot when you need a bunch of self-righting mechanism, because the robot is so damn top heavy you know it is falling over when you fire the hammer. beta didn’t need any of this crap, because it was a properly built hammer bot(one that actually did significant damage to robots that weren’t just armored in lexan, like Chomp’s only legit win from breaking through the top of Shrederator), and the only reason beta tips over is because John Reid, the glorious madman that he is, uses a god damn etek to power the hammer. If they want to push a woman and a robot to attempt to get more girls into STEM fields(a noble cause that I fully support, btw), freaking back Witch Doctor. Witch Doctor is a far better robot than Chomp and at least Witch Doctor fights aren’t boring.
As to how that fight went to a split decision I don’t freaking know. To my knowledge, Chomp only got one damn hit in! One hit! A new record low for Chomp, and it spent the rest of the match either trying to right itself, or sitting perched on top of a member of Warrior Dragon, because the robot ironically became really predictable in terms of its actions, or just getting pushed around by Warrior because they had the wedge. On Facebook Chomp’s official page said as a result of the righting pistons being, well, shit(they didn’t say that but let’s be real here), they rushed to make self-righting wings(like what they used last season) to use with the pistons, because their fight was late in the evening and they had to fight again the following day.
And then we got to the main event, which unlike that last match, I have less things to say about. Bombshell is a pretty good wedge, and Bronco apparently isn’t the lowest robot here. However as is usual with Intertia Labs, it takes only one flip. And disappointingly, Bombshell’s self-righting plan still not working. The idea is that like the Robot Wars machine Aftershock, Bombshell’s drum is supposed to pop them back up onto their wheels when it hits the floor, End Game’s self-righting is also the same idea, but unlike Bombshell I think they will be able to right. The problem I think is Bombshell’s drum has too big of a tooth. It catches on the arena floor rather than doing the pop up. There’s also the fact that Bombshell’s drum stalls after every big hit in this match. I did not expect Bronco to chase after their second out of the arena in the reboot series(their first was in season 1 vs Stinger, the first ever OotA in televised Battlebots), however. Usually Interia Labs is incredibly cautious and thus after that first disabling flip, they back off to their starting square and just chill out the count out. Also the Inertia Lab guys are suddenly showing their age. Like they aged visually by like a decade between seasons 2 and 3. Oh and one last thing, poor Basilisk, Bale Spear, Double Dutch, and Parallax being used for a god damn Jurassic World ad. Especially since for all of those robots that was our first look at them in action this season. Also that shows they can have rumbles with 4 robots in it, they just choose not to for some reason. That being said this particular “rumble” actually looked like a tag team match. Which, yes please. We need some tag team action. Thank god I'm not the only one that can't stand Chomp. Spends most of the time flopping on it's side yet steals decision after decision.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 7:59:15 GMT -5
Another week, another disappointing main event. Next week's main event doesn't look to turn that tide, though I'm hoping otherwise. {Spoiler}Bronco vs. Lock-Jaw And seriously, where's Duck!?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 10:15:52 GMT -5
Bonus content time!
Episode 4: Gemini defeats Kraken and Mohawk via double KO: This was really Gemini vs. Mohawk as Kraken first gets his chomper stuck on the side of the ring, then gets it stuck in the screws not long after. Mohawk dominated most of the fight by grabbing one Gemini bot and moving around so that the other would attack the twin. As the match was winding down, one Gemini bot looked to be out while the other was still going strong. Mohawk's backside seemed to be it's glass jaw as one smack on it by the working Gemini bot knocked Mohawk out right on top of a killsaw to give Gemini the win.
Episode 5: Top Ten Biggest Hits of 2018 (so far) 10. Yeti KOs Witch Doctor 9. Bite Force uppercuts Blacksmith 8. Tombstone decapitates Gigabyte 7. Sawblaze cuts up Overhaul 6. Endgame smacks Captain Shrederator 5. Monsoon flips Red Devil 4. Huge destroys Free Shipping on first hit 3. Tombstone and Minotaur make each other fly around 2. Bite Force SHORYUKENs Hypershock 1. Ice Wave rips Vanquish in half
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jun 30, 2018 1:00:59 GMT -5
Rotator fought Predator and it wasn't televised? Bullshit. And the fight with Warrior Dragon wasn't really that good after the first half. Can't believe Warrior Dragon brought the goddamned drone back. Rotator won a split but meh.
HEY @vyse, DUCK! IS BACK! Didn't look good for a long time because Reality was trying to peel off the wheels, but tanked so many of the hits from the drum that it killed the drive train of the Dutch machine. It will be interesting to see who DUCK! gets next.
Battle Royale With Cheese may be the worst bot I've ever seen. Yes, worse than the plywood bot from the Robot Wars reboot.
HOLY SHIT, HOW DID WITCH DOCTOR GET OUT OF THE SCREWS?! They were easily thrashing Blacksmith (SPONSORED BY NUCLEAR BLAST, THE #1 INDEPENDANT HEAVY METAL LABEL IN THE WORLD!) until Al Kindle pushed them into the screws and I thought they stole it Bigger Brother style. Huge win for Witch Doctor and they look like the bot we expected them to be going into this season, but Blacksmith is likely finished, and as someone who was cheering for them this year for obvious reasons, this sucks.
And after 19 years, the rematch. Too bad both Bronco and Lockjaw had mechanical problems the whole fight even though Bronco got some violent flips in. Still not a bad fight all things considered but Lockjaw, like Blacksmith, is screwed.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 30, 2018 4:11:42 GMT -5
Rotator fought Predator and it wasn't televised? Bullshit. And the fight with Warrior Dragon wasn't really that good after the first half. Can't believe Warrior Dragon brought the goddamned drone back. Rotator won a split but meh. HEY @vyse, DUCK! IS BACK! Didn't look good for a long time because Reality was trying to peel off the wheels, but tanked so many of the hits from the drum that it killed the drive train of the Dutch machine. It will be interesting to see who DUCK! gets next. Battle Royale With Cheese may be the worst bot I've ever seen. Yes, worse than the plywood bot from the Robot Wars reboot. HOLY SHIT, HOW DID WITCH DOCTOR GET OUT OF THE SCREWS?! They were easily thrashing Blacksmith (SPONSORED BY NUCLEAR BLAST, THE #1 INDEPENDANT HEAVY METAL LABEL IN THE WORLD!) until Al Kindle pushed them into the screws and I thought they stole it Bigger Brother style. Huge win for Witch Doctor and they look like the bot we expected them to be going into this season, but Blacksmith is likely finished, and as someone who was cheering for them this year for obvious reasons, this sucks. And after 19 years, the rematch. Too bad both Bronco and Lockjaw had mechanical problems the whole fight even though Bronco got some violent flips in. Still not a bad fight all things considered but Lockjaw, like Blacksmith, is screwed. I didn’t know how Witch Doctor got free watching the fight in real time but seeing the replay made it extremely clear, they reversed rotation of the screws Witch Doctor was caught in, essentially freeing Witch Doctor for them(don’t worry this isn’t a bias thing, they did the same thing to get Lock-Jaw off the screws in the main event). As for Lock-Jaw vs Bronco, I have to assume Bronco won the aggression, control, and strategy categories from all three judges because Lock-Jaw clearly had the damage locked up. And nah, I’ve seen worse robots that Battle Royale with Cheese. I don’t know why their bar doesn’t work during fights, but it can hit some insane speeds. The team posted a video of them testing the bar without their armor on in the test box, and that thing not only was spinning incredibly fast, it got up to speed fast too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 8:43:01 GMT -5
Duck! returned! And it's 2-0! Battle Royale with Cheese isn't the worst bot ever. Remember Wrex still existed. A main event that went a whole 3 minutes! =D 2 minutes of it was garbage. >=( Next week is an interesting main event, but I'm still not getting my hopes up. {Spoiler}Icewave vs. Skorpios
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 17:32:57 GMT -5
So I watched the 7th episode with the bonus battle of Basilisk(who apparently won its first match) vs. Deviled Egg vs. Axe Backwards. It was a pretty lame battle that saw Basilisk do almost nothing, Axe Backwards having his weapon stop working halfway in the battle, and Deviled Egg doing...things. In the end, Deviled Egg won by split decision.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 5, 2018 17:34:28 GMT -5
So I watched the 7th episode with the bonus battle of Basilisk(who apparently won its first match) vs. Deviled Egg vs. Axe Backwards. It was a pretty lame battle that saw Basilisk do almost nothing, Axe Backwards having his weapon stop working halfway in the battle, and Deviled Egg doing...things. In the end, Deviled Egg won by split decision. Basilisk and its partner Double Dutch won that tag team match they repurposed as a Jurassic World ad.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2018 1:01:01 GMT -5
Well, Chomp couldn't have asked for a worse matchup. And a brilliant idea by HUGE to throw in a minibot to f*** up Chomp's AI even if it didn't end up playing out. Chomp got slashed up and predictably lost.
Impressive performance by Brutus in self-righting and in smacking around War Hawk, but that was way too close to a late hit at the end.
Captain Shrederator f***ing sucks. It can only deal out a hit or two and then dies. And Petunia then went and killed it further. I know other full body spinners have had success but Shrederator has looked awful every time I've seen it.
That was the best Bombshell has looked this season, taking out BOTH of Yeti's weapons. But even despite the fact it was running with a damaged wheel and the fact that it stopped dead and caught fire, I have no idea how they lost. Were the judges that swayed by those last few seconds? Because I thought Bombshell was the better in every category.
I expected the main event to be a squash for Icewave, but Skorpios just pushed it around like it was nothing. Kenny thought Icewave won and I can see the reasoning for that but it was insanely close.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 7, 2018 4:16:32 GMT -5
Well, Chomp couldn't have asked for a worse matchup. And a brilliant idea by HUGE to throw in a minibot to f*** up Chomp's AI even if it didn't end up playing out. Chomp got slashed up and predictably lost. Impressive performance by Brutus in self-righting and in smacking around War Hawk, but that was way too close to a late hit at the end. Captain Shrederator f***ing sucks. It can only deal out a hit or two and then dies. And Petunia then went and killed it further. I know other full body spinners have had success but Shrederator has looked awful every time I've seen it. That was the best Bombshell has looked this season, taking out BOTH of Yeti's weapons. But even despite the fact it was running with a damaged wheel and the fact that it stopped dead and caught fire, I have no idea how they lost. Were the judges that swayed by those last few seconds? Because I thought Bombshell was the better in every category. I expected the main event to be a squash for Icewave, but Skorpios just pushed it around like it was nothing. Kenny thought Icewave won and I can see the reasoning for that but it was insanely close. I think Yeti won because let’s be honest here, Bombshell was functionally dead at the end of the match. Plus Yeti was still aggressive and did cause both external and internal damage to Bombshell, meaning they basically split the 2 points the damage category has. On top of that I’d argue that while not as visibly obvious as the damage to Yeti, the damage to Bombshell affected it more. Despite having a wedge, Bombshell couldn’t push Yeti around because of the wonky left wheel, and of course the internal damage flat out killed Bombshell at the end. And Skorpios, impressive as hell. Obviously had strategy and control in its favor. And obviously Icewave had the damage category locked up. I think where the judges diverged on was the aggression, which Naomi scoring aggression like it is listed in the rules(attempted attacks with a powered weapon), where as the other two most likely went with the more logical way to look at it, the one going on the attack more. Basically this outcome is more or less what we would have got in the pre-season 2 rule changes which has made every decision result leaving people with their butts clenched. As an aside, kinda funny that all three robots that entered this episode 0-2 are now 0-3. Functionally they are all eliminated from the running for the tournament of 16 now. Which, shockingly, now means the freaking runner-up for season 2 of the reboot is now eliminated. Out of all the robots to suffer from the rushed time table they had to build with, Bombshell is clearly the one to suffer the most. Edit: Ok so I went back through the judging rules, and saw a part in the aggression category that might help explain the Yeti and Skorpios decisions. While it is true that the main way to score aggression points is through attempted attacks with a powered weapon(no longer only the primary weapon, should be noted), consideration will also be granted to attacks from a robot that puts it in risk of serious damage for each attack. So using that consideration, Yeti could still be considered to be making aggressive attacks on Bombshell because it just kept ramming at them, even if it meant causing them to Dukes of Hazzard up Bombshell’s wedge and into their very much still spinning drum. Also why Skorpios was likely decided to be aggressive for the two judges who ruled in its favor, as every time Skorpios attacked Icewave, they intentionally kept burying their face into Icewave’s bar to stop it. It also doesn’t help that a lot of the damage dealt to Skorpios, and hell hits Icewave got in overall, wasn’t from Icewave initiating the attacks, but Skorpios ramming into Icewave. Icewave actually spent a good chunk of the match running away trying to spin up its bar again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:37:14 GMT -5
Huge going 3-0 is impressive, but I think once it goes against a horizontal spinner, it's over for him. Don't agree with the Yeti and Skorpios rulings. I thought they should've lost, but I'm not a judge so what do I know? And for next week's main event...oh...oh dear...not like this...not like this... {Spoiler}Bronco vs. Duck!
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2018 7:42:16 GMT -5
Huge going 3-0 is impressive, but I think once it goes against a horizontal spinner, it's over for him. Don't agree with the Yeti and Skorpios rulings. I thought they should've lost, but I'm not a judge so what do I know? And for next week's main event...oh...oh dear...not like this...not like this... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Bronco vs. Duck! {Spoiler}Welp, DUCK! is f***ed. Bronco, Lockjaw match aside, has looked incredible this season.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 7, 2018 8:08:12 GMT -5
Huge going 3-0 is impressive, but I think once it goes against a horizontal spinner, it's over for him. Don't agree with the Yeti and Skorpios rulings. I thought they should've lost, but I'm not a judge so what do I know? And for next week's main event...oh...oh dear...not like this...not like this... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Bronco vs. Duck! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Welp, DUCK! is f***ed. Bronco, Lockjaw match aside, has looked incredible this season. {Spoiler}DUCK!’s builder’s robots have survived flying pretty high up into the air before. They are basically, no joke, solid bricks of metal that had the compartments for the components carved into them. With how long Bronco is, it is entirely possible for DUCK!’s driver to maneuver around to the side and push them all over the place too. Plus, well, freakier stuff has happened. Just look at this episode. Also, we know at least one other match from this next episode, thanks to the Battlebots website always showing an image from that episode on the upcoming episodes page, and the image they show is {Spoiler}Sharkoprion fighting....Warhead with its giant ridiculous T-Rex clamping jaws set up.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2018 8:11:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Welp, DUCK! is f***ed. Bronco, Lockjaw match aside, has looked incredible this season. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}DUCK!’s builder’s robots have survived flying pretty high up into the air before. They are basically, no joke, solid bricks of metal that had the compartments for the components carved into them. With how long Bronco is, it is entirely possible for DUCK!’s driver to maneuver around to the side and push them all over the place too. Plus, well, freakier stuff has happened. Just look at this episode. Also, we know at least one other match from this next episode, thanks to the Battlebots website always showing an image from that episode on the upcoming episodes page, and the image they show is {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Sharkoprion fighting....Warhead with its giant ridiculous T-Rex clamping jaws set up. {Spoiler}I was wondering when Warhead was going to finally show up!
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 14, 2018 1:02:44 GMT -5
Free Shipping finally picked up a win, and a big one too as the flamethrower incinerated Hypershock's internals. I think the flames helped early in taking out the spinner but I could be wrong.
Great control by Red Devil, and Sub-Zero really is a disappointment. Also, f***ing drone....
WARHEAD!!!! Lot of aggression by Sharkoprion but driving right into the dino jaws was always going to be a mistake. AND MY BOYS WON!!!! Nice to see that the Sharkoprion team took the loss well, too.
I had a bad feeling that Monsoon was going to get destroyed against Son Of Whyachi, and sure enough HOLY SHIT!
So, other than Tombstone, I'd have to pick Bronco to be the favorite to win the Giant Nut. Two ringouts and a beating of Lockjaw and it looks at its absolute best.
That Desperado Tournament looks to be rather interesting as well.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 14, 2018 5:22:01 GMT -5
Free Shipping finally picked up a win, and a big one too as the flamethrower incinerated Hypershock's internals. I think the flames helped early in taking out the spinner but I could be wrong. Great control by Red Devil, and Sub-Zero really is a disappointment. Also, f***ing drone.... WARHEAD!!!! Lot of aggression by Sharkoprion but driving right into the dino jaws was always going to be a mistake. AND MY BOYS WON!!!! Nice to see that the Sharkoprion team took the loss well, too. I had a bad feeling that Monsoon was going to get destroyed against Son Of Whyachi, and sure enough HOLY SHIT! So, other than Tombstone, I'd have to pick Bronco to be the favorite to win the Giant Nut. Two ringouts and a beating of Lockjaw and it looks at its absolute best. That Desperado Tournament looks to be rather interesting as well. My best guess of the matches from the silhouettes is: Lock-Jaw vs Kraken, Valkyrie vs Hypothermia(this match I knew about thanks to those episode preview pics on the site), I think Mohawk vs Gemini(at least the multi-bot is Gemini, I’m just guessing that the giant angular wedge is Mohawk, which if it is them, this is the first rematch fight of this season, as the two were in a rumble), and Gigabyte vs Double Dutch. Edit: Correction, upon looking into it, Gemini’s opponet’s outline is just a placeholder using the outline of the legendary wedge robot La Machine(built by the creators of Battlebots), and the mythical designation of “Bot #56”(there is a persistent rumor that there was a 56th robot at the event).
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 14, 2018 10:20:32 GMT -5
Also, why the f*** are they not televising some of the fights at all (notably for Ultimo Destructo)?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 10:43:58 GMT -5
RIP Spitfire.
Monsoon got knocked the f*** out! One of the best delivered hits this season.
And no surprise Duck! gets eliminated by ring-out. It showed aggression and could've gotten Bronco to run out of flips, but it wasn't meant to be.
There looks to be no new episode next week as my cable's guide shows Cooper's Treasure mini-marathon going on at that time.
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