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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 23, 2018 12:27:47 GMT -5
"I really hope people stop caring about superhero movies so people will go back to wanting the sequels to my completely forgettable movie about Smurfs having sex with their tails."
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 23, 2018 12:41:41 GMT -5
New Mutants has been pushed back to August. And at this rate probably won't even got theatrical and instead get the straight-to-Netflix treatment that Cloverfield thing did, given with them pushing it back this long it just screams, "This thing is a disaster." Of all the movies of the genre this one actually looks good for it being different. Horror movie in a superhero universe is cool. It's probably being pushed back and reshot to make more of a boring blockbuster. Quite the opposite, really; FOX kept the creators from doing straight horror, but the horror ads that they released created so much buzz, they basically forced their hand. Basically, what happened to Suicide Squad after the Bohemian Rhapsody ad.
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Post by lionheart21 on Apr 23, 2018 12:54:15 GMT -5
He's pissed that the general consensus on Avatar now is that it's all glitter and no substance and yet he's making 4 more. Not to mention that the plot of it was the sci-equivalent of Fern Gully.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 12:54:47 GMT -5
Internet Yearns for Avatar Fatigue.
How 'bout them apples, Titanic Lad?
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Post by madness50 on Apr 23, 2018 12:57:54 GMT -5
He's pissed that the general consensus on Avatar now is that it's all glitter and no substance and yet he's making 4 more. Not to mention that the plot of it was the sci-equivalent of Fern Gully. I always considered Avatar to be if Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas merged together.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on Apr 23, 2018 13:08:40 GMT -5
James Cameron: Who wants Avatar sequels?
The Internet: Nobody asked for them, now go away.
Kevin Feige: Who wants a movie about the Eternals in Phase 4?
Also the Internet: Nobody asked for this either, but it's a Marvel movie, so take my money!
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Post by Cela on Apr 23, 2018 13:32:09 GMT -5
Not to mention that the plot of it was the sci-equivalent of Fern Gully. I always considered Avatar to be if Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas merged together. But, you know, without the plot or character motivation.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 23, 2018 13:35:20 GMT -5
James Cameron: Who wants Avatar sequels? The Internet: Nobody asked for them, now go away. Kevin Feige: Who wants a movie about the Eternals in Phase 4? Also the Internet: Nobody asked for this either, but it's a Marvel movie, so take my money! Few people wanted Guardians of the Galaxy or Black Panther stand alone movies and they were fantastic, Marvel have earned the audience's trust so people are willing to throw money at their output.
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Post by Tenshigure on Apr 23, 2018 14:01:15 GMT -5
James Cameron: Who wants Avatar sequels? The Internet: Nobody asked for them, now go away. Kevin Feige: Who wants a movie about the Eternals in Phase 4? Also the Internet: Nobody asked for this either, but it's a Marvel movie, so take my money! Few people wanted Guardians of the Galaxy or Black Panther stand alone movies and they were fantastic, Marvel have earned the audience's trust so people are willing to throw money at their output. It's like Pixar movies: mostly hits, very few misses. Even if the premise of their ideas doesn't sound good, their quality output has garnered quite a following and loyalty. Hell, the MCU movies are the only ones I can get the wife to agree on seeing in the theatre with little argument. That's good enough for me considering the first time I took her to a movie (the first Avengers) she walked out on because she was bored (right before the Battle of New York...her friends basically demanded I marry her right then and there for showing my loyalty to her, lol).
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Shai
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Post by Shai on Apr 23, 2018 14:10:42 GMT -5
James Cameron: Who wants Avatar sequels? The Internet: Nobody asked for them, now go away. Kevin Feige: Who wants a movie about the Eternals in Phase 4? Also the Internet: Nobody asked for this either, but it's a Marvel movie, so take my money! Few people wanted Guardians of the Galaxy or Black Panther stand alone movies and they were fantastic, Marvel have earned the audience's trust so people are willing to throw money at their output. Yeah. Marvel has a metric ton of goodwill built up at this point. Like a lot of people I had no freaking clue who the GOTG were when Vol.1 dropped and now Rocket is probably my favorite Marvel charater period. So me not knowing who a movie is about is in no way a dealbreaker.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 23, 2018 14:13:43 GMT -5
James Cameron: Who wants Avatar sequels? The Internet: Nobody asked for them, now go away. Kevin Feige: Who wants a movie about the Eternals in Phase 4? Also the Internet: Nobody asked for this either, but it's a Marvel movie, so take my money! Eternals are interesting to me, so I'll be curious to watch it. Kirby stuff is mostly gold.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 14:16:25 GMT -5
My primary thought on Eternals is it being confirmed makes me REALLY hope that that rumor from months ago about it and Power Pack being in the works is true.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2018 14:19:27 GMT -5
New Mutants has been pushed back to August. And at this rate probably won't even got theatrical and instead get the straight-to-Netflix treatment that Cloverfield thing did, given with them pushing it back this long it just screams, "This thing is a disaster." Of all the movies of the genre this one actually looks good for it being different. Horror movie in a superhero universe is cool. It's probably being pushed back and reshot to make more of a boring blockbuster. The super hero movies do have variety tho. Ant Man was set up more like a spy-thriller type of movie
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Shai
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Post by Shai on Apr 23, 2018 14:22:07 GMT -5
Of all the movies of the genre this one actually looks good for it being different. Horror movie in a superhero universe is cool. It's probably being pushed back and reshot to make more of a boring blockbuster. The super hero movies do have variety tho. Ant Man was set up more like a spy-thriller type of movie So is CA:TWS.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 23, 2018 15:43:12 GMT -5
Not to mention that the plot of it was the sci-equivalent of Fern Gully. I always considered Avatar to be if Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas merged together. You know to date there has been no less than eight separate plagiarism suits against Cameron regarding Avatar? Though to be fair most of them were thrown out. io9.gizmodo.com/a-history-of-plagiarism-claims-against-james-cameron-690974718This is just a bit rich from a guy who wouldn't let Paramount use the word Avatar.
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Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 23, 2018 16:13:27 GMT -5
It amuses me to hear this. My mom frequently complains about the derth of super hero movies-yet she herself has watched very few of them because its a genre that just does not hold her interest. Much like Cameron she keeps asking how long this can go on-yet it shows no signs of slowing.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 23, 2018 16:30:25 GMT -5
Honestly, superhero movies havent really been 'out' since Superman in 78. There has only ever been 2-3 years without one that entire time. Not to mention serials before that. Not sure where the fatigue part comes in given they have been ubiquitous for decades.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 16:34:30 GMT -5
Honestly, superhero movies havent really been 'out' since Superman in 78. There has only ever been 2-3 years without one that entire time. Not to mention serials before that. Not sure where the fatigue part comes in given they have been ubiquitous for decades. Really only time I'd even say the genre was especially in danger is I could see it getting to be a ghost town of a genre had the original X-Men bombed. But it didn't and so here we are.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 23, 2018 16:44:27 GMT -5
Right, I mean even Batman and Robin which was sposed to 'kill' em, very next year Blade came out.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Apr 23, 2018 20:01:47 GMT -5
Honestly, superhero movies havent really been 'out' since Superman in 78. There has only ever been 2-3 years without one that entire time. Not to mention serials before that. Not sure where the fatigue part comes in given they have been ubiquitous for decades. Really only time I'd even say the genre was especially in danger is I could see it getting to be a ghost town of a genre had the original X-Men bombed. But it didn't and so here we are. I'd say it's the same situation if Batman had flopped back in 89. The Superman films had faced diminishing returns and Supergirl was a massive failure so if Batman hadn't been the smash hit that the genre would have ended up much differently.
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