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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 22:44:34 GMT -5
Going off the "James Cameron's moaning about superheroes" topic, I have to ask. Although just one movie exists, is Avatar Fatigue real?
I think so, and it's been a decade since it was released.
The problem was that it was just two hours of scenery pornography, following up with a "humans are evil" speech and a pointless battle. But that's the movie proper.
Shortly around that time, we got a blitzkrieg of ads, product tie-ins and merchandise. It was supposed to be the next Star Wars, it was presented as such.
But, the craziest thing happened; people stopped caring almost immediately after the movie came out. By 2011, nobody was discussing blue aliens and walking trees. The only thing that has kept the franchise relevant besides this recent rant was that Disney finally completed their Avatar exhibit at their Wild Kingdom reserve after numerous delays and over budget.
So... Let's be honest here. Was one movie one too many?
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 22, 2018 22:50:49 GMT -5
It didn't make a dent in pop culture. Avatar is a ride, not a film. Hollow and superficial. You forget it as soon as it's over.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 22, 2018 22:50:55 GMT -5
Yes and no. The movie was good for it’s time and used a gimmick that worked very well that made the movie seem magical
However, once u got it on tv the magic was lost. You didn’t feel in the movie and once that was gone then you are left picking it apart
In hindsight he would have been better off doing a sequel sooner than later but 10 years since the case people are really waiting to see what gimmick he will use and without that it’s sort of stunk
If you believe what they are spending than the financial expectation may already kill it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 22:56:15 GMT -5
If it weren't for the referenced post, I would have forgot the movie existed. I knew a guy once who thought it was the greatest movie he ever saw.
I don't talk to that guy anymore.
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Post by Juice on Apr 22, 2018 23:04:22 GMT -5
Avatar in Imax 3d was the single greatest theatrical experience I've had in 30 years of cinema.
Never watched,it,on Bluray because it would never match it. I'll be there for the sequel.
As far as pop culture etc. It literally changed the way films are made. Brought back the dead formula of 3d thats still going strong now.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 22, 2018 23:07:18 GMT -5
As I said in the other thread, I feel like the Avatar movies are glorified tech demos for Cameron's technological experiements. Seeing it in 3D in a large theatre was an amazing experience, but watching it at home on my TV was mind numbing. It's still a very nice movie to look at, but that's all there is. The plot is paper thin and clichéd, the characters stock, and the story had been told better by at least three movies in the previous 15 years.
It says a lot that the guy who had to carry the story on his back, Sam Worthington, was back to doing supporting roles in direct-to-DVD tripe within a couple of years.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 22, 2018 23:27:21 GMT -5
Avatar was a visual masterpiece surrounding a woefully mediocre story with completely forgettable characters that ended up being a white guilt parable about Native Americans, except said Native Americans are blue and really tall and skinny. As cliche as Titanic's love story ended up being, at least it was memorable thanks in part to some inspired performances from the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet, and even the minor roles like Billy Zane (I HAVE A CHILD!). I don't even remember the characters' names in Avatar, just the lead actor had the charisma of a rock and Michelle Rodriguez was there as Every Single Michelle Rodriguez Character Ever.
It was amazing to experience in the theaters the one time I saw it (in 3D of course), but I have no desire to ever see it again. And that movie made me never want to see a 3D movie again because the glasses gave me a headache.
So yeah, Avatar Fatigue exists. I got it as soon as I left the theater.
No it didn't. Films were doing 3D again in the year leading up to Avatar, though Avatar was the first one to actually do it well since the film was shot with 3D in mind. Most 3D films were just the regular 2D version with some shit popping up at you every so often, and that's pretty much how it stands now.
In the grand scheme of things, Avatar didn't really influence anything. Otherwise there'd be way more films shot with 3D in mind instead of being a more expensive, gimmicky add-on.
And none of that is actually relevant to pop culture anyway, unless cinematography and film theory have suddenly become a part of the pop culture zeitgeist.
In terms of real pop culture influence, how many times have you quoted Avatar in a room and people responded with another quip from the movie? How many times have there been Avatar jokes in mainstream pop culture or nerd culture outside of poking fun at how forgettable it was? Hell, how many dank memes of Avatar have been created since its release period? I imagine the answer would be "not many" to all of the above for a lot of us.
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Post by Tenshigure on Apr 22, 2018 23:34:55 GMT -5
Cameron failed to strike when the iron was hot, and Marvel blew past him as the ‘next big sci-if franchise.’ I never cared for the movie, even it was pretty the plot was shallow and the acting half-baked. Will I check out the sequel in theaters when it comes out? Maybe, but I’m not exactly enthusiastic about hearing the continuation of the story. It’s got “Titanic 2” written all over it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 22, 2018 23:46:09 GMT -5
Nah, apathy.
Most of the populace don't give a shit about Avatar anymore.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Apr 22, 2018 23:57:27 GMT -5
I mean there's a ton of fights where Aang does a lot of physical activity along with air bending, so I think there would be some fatigue.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 23, 2018 0:00:14 GMT -5
I dunno, I've never seen it. The ride at Disney World is fun.
I have James Cameron fatigue and I'll celebrate the day he retires.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 23, 2018 0:00:19 GMT -5
Yes. It hit me in about hour two of that God awful seventeen hour piece of crap.
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Post by hassanchop on Apr 23, 2018 0:03:14 GMT -5
I thought this was about The Last Airbender
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 23, 2018 0:04:04 GMT -5
One of my favorite Hollywood moments of all time was when that overrated film lost the Best Picture Oscar to The Hurt Locker, which is one of the most underrated films to win that honor.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 23, 2018 0:08:46 GMT -5
It's fitting that they've turned it into a Disney World attraction, given that the film pretty much has that feel of a movie-esque ride they'd show you with special effects and crap (ala Captain EO).
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 23, 2018 0:25:57 GMT -5
He looks pretty tired to me!
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 23, 2018 1:08:50 GMT -5
Nah, apathy. Most of the populace don't give a shit about Avatar anymore. This. It isn't Star Wars. I doubt people are busting down the door to see another Avatar film.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 23, 2018 1:14:24 GMT -5
The only thing I liked and really clearly remember about Avatar was the comically big knife the evil military guy pulls when he's driving his robot body thing.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 23, 2018 5:30:36 GMT -5
It’s an average sci fi film at the worst. Mostly it’s a victim of overhype and its own marketing.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Apr 23, 2018 5:43:19 GMT -5
One of my favorite Hollywood moments of all time was when that overrated film lost the Best Picture Oscar to The Hurt Locker, which is one of the most underrated films to win that honor. I also loved the added bonus that it was his ex-wife's film that beat him too
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