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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2018 14:18:15 GMT -5
It amazes me the rep Alexa has gotten for being dominant when she loses cleanly in nearly all of her matches. The problem is when she wins, it's usually in convincing fashion. Which goes against a cowardly heel. Yeah... because she's not a cowardly heel.
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Post by cjh on May 7, 2018 14:24:23 GMT -5
It amazes me the rep Alexa has gotten for being dominant when she loses cleanly in nearly all of her matches. A lot of it's WHEN she wins. She does lose constantly on free TV, but her feuds very often amount to, "Alexa spends the whole time calling someone trash and then beats them decisively." The Bayley, Sasha, and Mickie feuds were all like that, she called out all their faults then beat them clean with none of them getting any real comeuppance on her in the end. I think that's a separate issue where they shouldn't have written the promos that way if Alexa was going to win. Alexa is still basically the equivalent of a football team or MMA fighter who dominate for most of the game/fight but almost always squander it at the end and lose.
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Post by Dave the Dave on May 7, 2018 14:33:35 GMT -5
The problem is when she wins, it's usually in convincing fashion. Which goes against a cowardly heel. Yeah... because she's not a cowardly heel. Her sprinting from two people last Monday sure makes it seem like she is. Also....most of her run in the company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2018 14:36:33 GMT -5
Yeah... because she's not a cowardly heel. Her sprinting from two people last Monday sure makes it seem like she is. Also....most of her run in the company. She rarely wrestles or positions herself as a coward, she's a bitchy heel... she should be booked more conniving in her matches but she has never really been billed as a coward. I even kinda get why they book her as stronger because even though she's short she is also buff as hell... but that seems much more suited for a face thing. (hell Vince has been looking for a small but strong wrestler forever, Alexa could probably fit that mold as a face.) But again she's more the bitchy sneaky heel than a cowardly one.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 14:43:32 GMT -5
Her sprinting from two people last Monday sure makes it seem like she is. Also....most of her run in the company. She rarely wrestles or positions herself as a coward, she's a bitchy heel... she should be booked more conniving in her matches but she has never really been billed as a coward. I even kinda get why they book her as stronger because even though she's short she is also buff as hell... but that seems much more suited for a face thing. (hell Vince has been looking for a small but strong wrestler forever, Alexa could probably fit that mold as a face.) But again she's more the bitchy sneaky heel than a cowardly one. alexa should have the Mighty Mouse gimmick they were rumored to be giving Neville ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Mozenrath on May 7, 2018 14:46:46 GMT -5
It amazes me the rep Alexa has gotten for being dominant when she loses cleanly in nearly all of her matches. A lot of it's WHEN she wins. She does lose constantly on free TV, but her feuds very often amount to, "Alexa spends the whole time calling someone trash and then beats them decisively." The Bayley, Sasha, and Mickie feuds were all like that, she called out all their faults then beat them clean with none of them getting any real comeuppance on her in the end. Minus the TV losses thing, that's basically Okada, though she hasn't earned what Okada has, plus isn't being managed by the booker.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2018 14:46:53 GMT -5
She rarely wrestles or positions herself as a coward, she's a bitchy heel... she should be booked more conniving in her matches but she has never really been billed as a coward. I even kinda get why they book her as stronger because even though she's short she is also buff as hell... but that seems much more suited for a face thing. (hell Vince has been looking for a small but strong wrestler forever, Alexa could probably fit that mold as a face.) But again she's more the bitchy sneaky heel than a cowardly one. alexa should have the Mighty Mouse gimmick they were rumored to be giving Neville ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Again that was not literally Mighty Mouse ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) it was just how Vince has always described the gimmick idea he's had. Prichard has talked about it a few times on his podcast that Vince was always talking about wanting to find someone like that. The tiny but mighty guy... which honestly fits pretty well for Neville... but you kinda need more to it than that.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 14:49:04 GMT -5
alexa should have the Mighty Mouse gimmick they were rumored to be giving Neville ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Again that was not literally Mighty Mouse ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) it was just how Vince has always described the gimmick idea he's had. Prichard has talked about it a few times on his podcast that Vince was always talking about wanting to find someone like that. The tiny but mighty guy... which honestly fits pretty well for Neville... but you kinda need more to it than that. I know it wasn't literally Might Mouse, I just want to see Alexa body slam that 800 lb bully Nia Jax.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2018 14:49:57 GMT -5
Again that was not literally Mighty Mouse ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) it was just how Vince has always described the gimmick idea he's had. Prichard has talked about it a few times on his podcast that Vince was always talking about wanting to find someone like that. The tiny but mighty guy... which honestly fits pretty well for Neville... but you kinda need more to it than that. I know it wasn't literally Might Mouse, I just want to see Alexa body slam that 800 lb bully Nia Jax. I am 100% for this... especially if she goes full Hogan adding a pound an inch and 10k more people each time she talks about it
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 14:54:31 GMT -5
The problem is when she wins, it's usually in convincing fashion. Which goes against a cowardly heel. Yeah... because she's not a cowardly heel. Which is illogical, given they presented her as such, especially with the Nia feud revolving about her about facing with the mean things she said about how Jax is fat & ugly And before that with her being terrified about the Chamber, even though she was complaining about not defending more often just a week after the Rumble. When you don't understand what character the performer is supposed to work as, it makes everything suck.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on May 7, 2018 15:11:02 GMT -5
Nia has been doing this for years and is still as dangerous as ever. Who else has she injured? Wrecked Bayley's shoulder, and even caused a scare with Sasha at one point if I remember correctly. That being said, Alexa has been on the road for quite a few years without a significant break (both of the body and work). I think she's due some respite.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 7, 2018 15:12:32 GMT -5
Who else has she injured? Wrecked Bayley's shoulder, and even caused a scare with Sasha at one point if I remember correctly. That being said, Alexa has been on the road for quite a few years without a significant break (both of the body and work). I think she's due some respite. She also dropped Charlotte on her head that knocked her loopy in what was supposed to been a shoulder breaker.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 7, 2018 15:15:59 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll use this as a reason to look at her actions and she'll come back as a character who isn't bitchy or stuck up at all. Someone who is nice,caring and doesn't think she is better than everyone else.A nice girl gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 15:17:38 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll use this as a reason to look at her actions and she'll come back as a character who isn't bitchy or stuck up at all. Someone who is nice,caring and doesn't think she is better than everyone else.A nice girl gimmick. She comes back as this ![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ML_hfAoQMyk/maxresdefault.jpg) with no explanation
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Post by CMWaters on May 7, 2018 15:22:51 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll use this as a reason to look at her actions and she'll come back as a character who isn't bitchy or stuck up at all. Someone who is nice,caring and doesn't think she is better than everyone else.A nice girl gimmick. She comes back as this ![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ML_hfAoQMyk/maxresdefault.jpg) with no explanation With a CFO$ knock-off of "Let it Go" as her entrance music.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2018 15:33:52 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll use this as a reason to look at her actions and she'll come back as a character who isn't bitchy or stuck up at all. Someone who is nice,caring and doesn't think she is better than everyone else.A nice girl gimmick. She comes back as this ![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ML_hfAoQMyk/maxresdefault.jpg) with no explanation I am kinda sad that when she first turned heel she didn't use the Sparkle mist ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 7, 2018 15:38:12 GMT -5
Who else has she injured? Wrecked Bayley's shoulder, and even caused a scare with Sasha at one point if I remember correctly. That being said, Alexa has been on the road for quite a few years without a significant break (both of the body and work). I think she's due some respite. Bayley’s shoulder. Where Nia did a normal shoulderblock and Bayley took a standard bump and hurt herself??
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 7, 2018 17:41:17 GMT -5
Unfortunate but Alexa was kind of due for a injury as including her NXT run she's gone a good three years or so without missing time while also wrestling a pretty heavy schedule since coming to the roster. I think Charlotte and Carmella are the only other two women who've avoided injury that have been on roster since then. Also unless it's very serious I don't think this an injury that's going to hurt her timing or career wise if she's out a decent amount of times. She looks to be out of the title picture and really doesn't fit into women's picture on Raw in general as right now the focal points going forward seem to pushing Nia as champion, furthering the never ending Bayley/Sasha story that never gets out of first gear, and building up and comers like Ember Moon and Ruby Riott with wins.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 7, 2018 17:48:29 GMT -5
Hopefully they'll use this as a reason to look at her actions and she'll come back as a character who isn't bitchy or stuck up at all. Someone who is nice,caring and doesn't think she is better than everyone else.A nice girl gimmick. She comes back as this ![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ML_hfAoQMyk/maxresdefault.jpg) with no explanation She dove into the LAKE OF REINCARNATION! HAAAAAAAAH!
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Post by schma on May 7, 2018 23:38:17 GMT -5
A lot of it's WHEN she wins. She does lose constantly on free TV, but her feuds very often amount to, "Alexa spends the whole time calling someone trash and then beats them decisively." The Bayley, Sasha, and Mickie feuds were all like that, she called out all their faults then beat them clean with none of them getting any real comeuppance on her in the end. I think that's a separate issue where they shouldn't have written the promos that way if Alexa was going to win. Alexa is still basically the equivalent of a football team or MMA fighter who dominate for most of the game/fight but almost always squander it at the end and lose. She's held one of the women's titles for the better part of two years. She has major wins against nearly every major and minor women's stars. She has decisively won feuds with Becky Lynch, Sasha Banks, Mickie James, Bayley and numerous others. It made sense that she lost to Asuka. Literally one woman in the company has not. That hardly makes her look bad. Sasha is a 4 time champ who managed to beat Alexa once. When Alexa wins it's in convincing fashion, when she loses no matter how amazing her opponent it's still super close. You mention her doing clean jobs all the time, but all she's done for the better part of the past couple years is dominate whichever show she's on even if she occasionally loses a throw away match on free tv.
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