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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 7, 2018 19:29:26 GMT -5
Somebody needs to make a compilation of how...let's say "oddly" Okada's been behaving since around January (jumping off barricades during his entrance, chewing on streamers, shiny pants, etc.) and label it with something like "I don't know how much time I've got left with this belt, so I'm gonna get real weird with it." Think Baretta's the one who started floating the "Kazu's getting weird" thing.
I kind of want him to walk into Dominion with a ridiculously uneven tan, hair a mess, torn up shirt, clutching a half-eaten rum ham (pants 100% intact, though).
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Post by chrom on Jun 7, 2018 19:59:16 GMT -5
I believe since he's held onto it for so long and has defeated everyone, he truly believes that he is invincible and thus believes he can act however he wants as no one can beat him.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 7, 2018 22:32:08 GMT -5
Someone mentioned Rasslin Rantin on YouTube. His theory is that this is like Rocky II and Okada is Apollo Creed, somewhat obsessed with going the distance with a plucky Rocky (Omega) and calling him out for a rematch. Dominion last year was the first Rocky, this year is Rocky II.
Anyone else think they might do a goofy finish so Okada can beat that Kobashi record by a few days, then they have Omega win a rematch at the Cow Palace? Something like the Flair/Steamboat 2/3 falls finish that was indecisive.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 7, 2018 23:56:02 GMT -5
No way this goes to the Cow Palace; New Japan is not putting the major title win of one of their top guys and the end of a historic reign onto the card of a US show. The Long Beach shows, while enjoyable, were very much "We're not committing to anything too massive with any of these, it's not our primary market and we're kind of treating it like that". It's a Road To show, not a major event. People asked the same thing about Brock/Roman at Greatest Royal Rumble, and at least there GRR was a huge deal for WWE. I don't see New Japan holding even that much intense value on the Cow Palace show as a place to try and make something like that happen.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 8, 2018 0:09:02 GMT -5
Somebody needs to make a compilation of how...let's say "oddly" Okada's been behaving since around January (jumping off barricades during his entrance, chewing on streamers, shiny pants, etc.) and label it with something like "I don't know how much time I've got left with this belt, so I'm gonna get real weird with it." Think Baretta's the one who started floating the "Kazu's getting weird" thing. I kind of want him to walk into Dominion with a ridiculously uneven tan, hair a mess, torn up shirt, clutching a half-eaten rum ham (pants 100% intact, though). He needs to yell out "Scooby Dooby Doo!" on a crossbody at least once during the first fall.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 8, 2018 6:23:17 GMT -5
Okada should enter wearing a Hawaiian shirt and a lei, eating a grilled SPAM sandwich.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 8, 2018 8:12:07 GMT -5
Somebody needs to make a compilation of how...let's say "oddly" Okada's been behaving since around January (jumping off barricades during his entrance, chewing on streamers, shiny pants, etc.) and label it with something like "I don't know how much time I've got left with this belt, so I'm gonna get real weird with it." Think Baretta's the one who started floating the "Kazu's getting weird" thing. I kind of want him to walk into Dominion with a ridiculously uneven tan, hair a mess, torn up shirt, clutching a half-eaten rum ham (pants 100% intact, though). Hiromu Takahashi looks at him. "Bro, get it together, you look like a fool."
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Post by chrom on Jun 8, 2018 9:50:41 GMT -5
Not much longer to wait
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:29:37 GMT -5
Prediction time:
Jr Hvy Tag: R3K vs Suzuki-Gun: while I haven't seen all of the super juniors, what I have watched has reinforced my idea that Sho is f***ing star in the making and that El Desperado is apparently f***ing fantastic. That said R3K for the win here, it makes sense after both their performances is the BOSJ.
Finlay & Robinson vs White & Yoshi-Hashi: First of two matches I don't care about. Finlay's awful,look is too off-putting, White still,isn't doing it for me and urghhhhhhh, means this match is where I have my breakfast. That said, Robinson to get the pin to set up White vs Robinson.
Ishii & Toru Yano vs Minoru Suzuki & Zach Sabre Jr: They seem to be hinting at an Ishii vs Suzuki feud. I'm kind of dreaming that that's the main event for the NJPW SSE show I'm going to in July for the Rev Pro title. This will be fun and I'm looking forward to it. It's too low down the card to be a classic, but I like everyone in this. Suzuki-Gun to get the win and build to Ishii vs Suzuki.
NEVER Openweight championship: Hirooki 'sack of potatoes' Goto vs friggin Taichi vs morally questionable guy: who cares? Match where I get a shower. Goto retains.
IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Championship: Evil & SANADA vs The Young Bucks: Again this should be good. I see LIJ retaining as they haven't been able to,do much with their reign and the Young Becks proving themselves in the Hvyweight division for a rematch makes sense, to me at least.
Hiroshi Tanahashi, Jushin 'holy crap when did he get so jacked' Liger & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Marty Scurll, Cody & Hangman Page: This will be fun too and good go either way. I see the legends going over and some post match shenanigans to set up either Mysterio vs Scurll or Mysterio vs Liger.
IWGP Jr Hvy Championship: Will Ospreay vs Hiromu Takahashi: Sleeper for match of the night and one I'm hugely excited for. I've got Will retaining. His reign still has legs and I think Takahashi makes a better chaser than champion. He doesn't need to have the belt right now. Will retains.
IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Tetsuya Naito vs Chris Jericho. Actually finding this hardest to choose.... but Naito retains. I can't see Jericho doing the Cow Palace show and that's the only reason to put the belt on him. At the same time, Naito needs to drop the IC belt and this could be the best time to do it. Hard to pick, but going with Naito.
IWPG Hvyweight Championship: Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega: Its 1-1, 65 to 70 minutes in. Omega hits the one winged angel, Okada kicks out. Omega completely loses it and eats a Rainmaker. Omega goes nuts after the match, rejecting both Ibushi and the Young Bucks. Okada becomes a purposefully booked Roman Reigns cocky and delusional heel champion, before finally dropping it to Naito in a Wrestle Kingdom rematch, with Naito positioned as even more of a heroic saviour that he would've been in January. Omega faces Ibushi at Wrestle Kingdom. So, Okada retains.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 8, 2018 12:26:03 GMT -5
I just wanna say, I'm so excited for the six man tag with Rey. Two of my favorite wrestlers teaming up with a literal super hero in Liger. It's like the perfect babyface trio and it does my heart good.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jun 8, 2018 12:34:57 GMT -5
Somebody needs to make a compilation of how...let's say "oddly" Okada's been behaving since around January (jumping off barricades during his entrance, chewing on streamers, shiny pants, etc.) and label it with something like "I don't know how much time I've got left with this belt, so I'm gonna get real weird with it." Think Baretta's the one who started floating the "Kazu's getting weird" thing. I kind of want him to walk into Dominion with a ridiculously uneven tan, hair a mess, torn up shirt, clutching a half-eaten rum ham (pants 100% intact, though). He needs to yell out "Scooby Dooby Doo!" on a crossbody at least once during the first fall. "You're not a talking dog."
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Post by Convoy on Jun 8, 2018 12:53:09 GMT -5
I just wanna say, I'm so excited for the six man tag with Rey. Two of my favorite wrestlers teaming up with a liteal super hero in Liger. It's like the perfect babyface trio and it does my heart good. Absolutely agree with this. Liger is one of my all-time favorites, and this trio just needs Steamboat to be the ultimate face team.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 8, 2018 13:59:46 GMT -5
I swear if they actually do something like what was proposed above (Okada kicking out of One Winged Angel at the 70 minute mark) then everyone should swear off NJPW and never look back. If Omega doesn't win this match I don't even know where he would go in New Japan after that. Re-turn heel and at some vague point get another title shot and have everyone on earth run in help him win? I mean who would ever beat the guy if he kicked out of such a lethal finisher after an hour?
For all the talk of them doing Naito/Okada at next year's WK, how is that much different than the constant Lesnar/Reigns crap? I guess in this case the guy challenging is over in this case. But really Naito is not someone I'd build my company around. Even if he did win he's the sort of guy who would get mega up for the big match with Okada and then just job his first defense against whoever.
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Post by chrom on Jun 8, 2018 14:27:24 GMT -5
With guys like Kushida, Makabe and others not on the card surprised they didn't put in a throwaway ten man tag to have them included on it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 8, 2018 14:49:53 GMT -5
I like Okada, but even I think the run has to end tonight. There's just nowhere else to really go with it, there are other top guys who can do stuff with the belt that would be more interesting than more of the same, and it would give Okada something fresher to do by way of being able to tell stories with the ace that don't involve the title.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Jun 8, 2018 14:55:03 GMT -5
Bit the bullet and signed up for NJPW World to watch this live. NJPW has been a breath of fresh air to me this year with how stale WWE has gotten and the prospect of finally seeing Omega win the belt is more than enough to get me to fork over my money.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 8, 2018 15:40:32 GMT -5
I swear if they actually do something like what was proposed above (Okada kicking out of One Winged Angel at the 70 minute mark) then everyone should swear off NJPW and never look back. If Omega doesn't win this match I don't even know where he would go in New Japan after that. Re-turn heel and at some vague point get another title shot and have everyone on earth run in help him win? I mean who would ever beat the guy if he kicked out of such a lethal finisher after an hour? For all the talk of them doing Naito/Okada at next year's WK, how is that much different than the constant Lesnar/Reigns crap? I guess in this case the guy challenging is over in this case. But really Naito is not someone I'd build my company around. Even if he did win he's the sort of guy who would get mega up for the big match with Okada and then just job his first defense against whoever. Easy: I find one company entertaining and the other one not, plus NJPW is usually pretty good about having a method to their madness whereas WWE too often flies by the seat of its pants. I do think it's time for Kenny to win, but no way do I swear off the product because an over wrestler they've established as god tier gets booked to be god tier. My biggest gripe would be that we'd be down to Okada having nobody left to challenge him (Ibushi, maybe, but he's not being built for that and even he had a non-title match as Tiger Mask W), but my second thought would almost immediately be "Oh, there's something or someone else that's going to happen, isn't there." Basically, NJPW is a place where I can watch and just care about the outcomes in kayfabe terms; after watching late 90s WCW in my teens, circa 2004 WWF in my college years, and TNA on and off from the mid-aughts through mid-'10s, I like this feeling of not worrying about the "real world" ramifications of booking decisions. I wouldn't necessarily blame somebody if they decided not to drop money to fly out to San Francisco for the Cow Palace show based on being disappointed over an Omega loss as the travel costs involved totally change the thinking on that, but for me NJPW and Lucha Underground are the places where I'm happy to go along for the ride since I know they're going to deliver the goods when push comes to shove.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 8, 2018 15:48:43 GMT -5
Bit the bullet and signed up for NJPW World to watch this live. NJPW has been a breath of fresh air to me this year with how stale WWE has gotten and the prospect of finally seeing Omega win the belt is more than enough to get me to fork over my money. I wish. I wanna watch this so bad, but only have my phone for internet right now due to living and working at the lake. So no New Japan for me 😢
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jun 8, 2018 16:51:28 GMT -5
I swear if they actually do something like what was proposed above (Okada kicking out of One Winged Angel at the 70 minute mark) then everyone should swear off NJPW and never look back. If Omega doesn't win this match I don't even know where he would go in New Japan after that. Re-turn heel and at some vague point get another title shot and have everyone on earth run in help him win? I mean who would ever beat the guy if he kicked out of such a lethal finisher after an hour? For all the talk of them doing Naito/Okada at next year's WK, how is that much different than the constant Lesnar/Reigns crap? I guess in this case the guy challenging is over in this case. But really Naito is not someone I'd build my company around. Even if he did win he's the sort of guy who would get mega up for the big match with Okada and then just job his first defense against whoever. The difference is that Naito is the most popular guy in the company lol It’s closer to Bryan/Bats//Orton being bungled than it is Reigns/Lesnar, although it would be a Tana/Okada callback more than anything. You shouldn’t have to worry though, Gedo looks to have made his mind up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 17:11:11 GMT -5
I swear if they actually do something like what was proposed above (Okada kicking out of One Winged Angel at the 70 minute mark) then everyone should swear off NJPW and never look back. If Omega doesn't win this match I don't even know where he would go in New Japan after that. Re-turn heel and at some vague point get another title shot and have everyone on earth run in help him win? I mean who would ever beat the guy if he kicked out of such a lethal finisher after an hour? For all the talk of them doing Naito/Okada at next year's WK, how is that much different than the constant Lesnar/Reigns crap? I guess in this case the guy challenging is over in this case. But really Naito is not someone I'd build my company around. Even if he did win he's the sort of guy who would get mega up for the big match with Okada and then just job his first defense against whoever. Just to be clear, that's what I think will happen, not what I want to happen.
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