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Post by Cyno on May 16, 2018 15:20:46 GMT -5
Not sure if you are serious but let me just answer anyway. So when a collective of people start accusing someone of a bad thing that never happened, that kind of destroys that persons reputation. This means that he basically can not have any social interaction without someone judging him. The worst part about this is that no one except for the people involved are 100percent sure what happened. If you ever had a situation where people said some stuff about you which changed the way how people look at you then you´ll understand. So this is a basic example where people don´t know how to react to their realisation of guilt and try to come up with a clever phrase to try to destroy a persons argument. Usually never works if you are older then 20 though or have a higher education then a highschool diploma. I know more people tried and teamed up for the joke, but I will treat it as a serious statement since I get the feeling that I really do need to explain what I mean by it. So a persons brand and reputation go hand in hand. In an entertainers life theirs basically no difference, it´s even worse. So by spreading these rumors as facts as a collective of internet trolls, you basically make it hard for the guy to find a way to earn money. I know that a lot of internet trolls would love nothing more then that, but it´s a bit of a dick move. Can´t wait for the one sentence reply by the way. Very clever , not going to respond though since I already said my part. It's too soon for this discussion. Not while his brand is still warm. Let us mourn his brand and then we can discuss proper forum brand legislation. As far as a serious discussion about his "brand" goes, it was already poisoned before the rape accusation came up due to his apparent immature behavior and backstage antics alienating people. The rape accusation was pouring gasoline on a fire, but that fire was burning to begin with. Even if there was definitive proof that he didn't rape anyone and it was a completely false accusation, it doesn't whitewash everything else that happened beforehand either. Like I said earlier, I think he would be welcomed back with open arms if he was a model citizen before this story came out and they fired him mostly to keep the PR heat off themselves. But that apparently wasn't the case.
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Post by KofiMania on May 16, 2018 15:25:51 GMT -5
Bring him and Cass back as a team on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 15:26:52 GMT -5
I think they should give him a chance. If he still acts like a dick then let him go. Imo he would need to be trouble free for about a year before I give him another chance if I was Vince Plus there is the matter of if Enzo wants to wrestle. There's no question he was trying to use wrestling to jump start himself into entertainment industry Yep. Enzo has an album coming out. Meltzer even said that wrestling is just his thing used to invade the entertainment industry. Besides that Enzo was in deep shit before this. Dude bad mouthed the business enough that Reigns had to kick him off the bus. Enzo had goons in the locker room causing trouble lmao. Dude was like David Ruffin showing up at the picnic lmao. Speaking of which
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on May 16, 2018 15:29:19 GMT -5
Cool. Go to Impact and stay there. My name is Enzo Pastrami. I'm a certified dude and a bonafide guy. Botta bang, realest guy in the ring. How's it goin'!?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 16, 2018 15:32:49 GMT -5
Imo he would need to be trouble free for about a year before I give him another chance if I was Vince Plus there is the matter of if Enzo wants to wrestle. There's no question he was trying to use wrestling to jump start himself into entertainment industry Yep. Enzo has an album coming out. Meltzer even said that wrestling is just his thing used to invade the entertainment industry. Besides that Enzo was in deep shit before this. Dude bad mouthed the business enough that Reigns had to kick him off the bus. Enzo had goons in the locker room causing trouble lmao. Lmao exactly. On top of Vince himself wanting to give Enzo another chance, he would be a full blown idiot to not take the temperature of the locker room in regards to bringing him back But yeah if Enzo is legit in the music industry he's not going back to wrestling. Music industry is not going to care about these allegations to an extent when you got dudes getting arrested every week for goon shit or stupidity. I mean let's not kid ourshelves, Bobby Shmurda is going to continue right where he left whenever he gets out of jail Also yes, we need to bring back Enzo is David Ruffin. My man is destructive as f***. He's past being Eddie Kane Jr
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 16, 2018 15:36:30 GMT -5
Not sure if you are serious but let me just answer anyway. So when a collective of people start accusing someone of a bad thing that never happened, that kind of destroys that persons reputation. This means that he basically can not have any social interaction without someone judging him. The worst part about this is that no one except for the people involved are 100percent sure what happened. If you ever had a situation where people said some stuff about you which changed the way how people look at you then you´ll understand. So this is a basic example where people don´t know how to react to their realisation of guilt and try to come up with a clever phrase to try to destroy a persons argument. Usually never works if you are older then 20 though or have a higher education then a highschool diploma. I know more people tried and teamed up for the joke, but I will treat it as a serious statement since I get the feeling that I really do need to explain what I mean by it. So a persons brand and reputation go hand in hand. In an entertainers life theirs basically no difference, it´s even worse. So by spreading these rumors as facts as a collective of internet trolls, you basically make it hard for the guy to find a way to earn money. I know that a lot of internet trolls would love nothing more then that, but it´s a bit of a dick move. Can´t wait for the one sentence reply by the way. Very clever , not going to respond though since I already said my part. It's too soon for this discussion. Not while his brand is still warm. Let us mourn his brand and then we can discuss proper forum brand legislation. Simmer it guys, let's not make this one a thing please.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 16, 2018 15:59:16 GMT -5
I still find him guilty of being crap. That being said, I'd tolerate him coming back if it meant that the doomed Big Cass singles push could end.
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Post by Cyno on May 16, 2018 16:06:47 GMT -5
Yep. Enzo has an album coming out. Meltzer even said that wrestling is just his thing used to invade the entertainment industry. Besides that Enzo was in deep shit before this. Dude bad mouthed the business enough that Reigns had to kick him off the bus. Enzo had goons in the locker room causing trouble lmao. Lmao exactly. On top of Vince himself wanting to give Enzo another chance, he would be a full blown idiot to not take the temperature of the locker room in regards to bringing him back But yeah if Enzo is legit in the music industry he's not going back to wrestling. Music industry is not going to care about these allegations to an extent when you got dudes getting arrested every week for goon shit or stupidity. I mean let's not kid ourshelves, Bobby Shmurda is going to continue right where he left whenever he gets out of jail Also yes, we need to bring back Enzo is David Ruffin. My man is destructive as f***. He's past being Eddie Kane Jr The music industry accepts the likes of Chris Brown and R. Kelly back with little moral quandary. Enzo just being a schmuck won't mean a whole lot as long as has the talent and the right connections.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 16, 2018 16:09:43 GMT -5
WHATS O-ZONE LOVE DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 16, 2018 16:10:56 GMT -5
Since we're back to talking about how this case will and should effect Enzo, I think it's time to pull up a very good assessment by Jokaine from the original 60+ page thread, particularly the last paragraph:
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 16, 2018 16:12:16 GMT -5
Since we're back to talking about how this case will and should effect Enzo, I think it's time to pull up a very good assessment by Jokaine from the original 60+ page thread, particularly the last paragraph: Pretty much. He ain't guilty of being a rapist, but he's one million percent guilty of being a dumbass.
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Post by chazraps on May 16, 2018 16:32:08 GMT -5
Lmao exactly. On top of Vince himself wanting to give Enzo another chance, he would be a full blown idiot to not take the temperature of the locker room in regards to bringing him back But yeah if Enzo is legit in the music industry he's not going back to wrestling. Music industry is not going to care about these allegations to an extent when you got dudes getting arrested every week for goon shit or stupidity. I mean let's not kid ourshelves, Bobby Shmurda is going to continue right where he left whenever he gets out of jail Also yes, we need to bring back Enzo is David Ruffin. My man is destructive as f***. He's past being Eddie Kane Jr The music industry accepts the likes of Chris Brown and R. Kelly back with little moral quandary. Enzo just being a schmuck won't mean a whole lot as long as has the talent and the right connections. His rapping is absolute horseshit on every level. No way he even moves Kevin Federline numbers, especially without McMahon's platform.
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Post by nate5054 on May 16, 2018 16:35:34 GMT -5
I'm not shocked. Her story had tons of holes.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 16, 2018 16:41:44 GMT -5
Good for him, I guess, but he still probably had a firing coming solely on not telling WWE about the charges as soon as he knew about them.
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Post by willywonka666 on May 16, 2018 17:04:58 GMT -5
This man's reputation may or may not be ruined. This is sad really no matter if I was a fan or not. It'll be hard to live that down-ever
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Post by abjordans on May 16, 2018 17:05:45 GMT -5
Good for him, I guess, but he still probably had a firing coming solely on not telling WWE about the charges as soon as he knew about them. If you read his statement and believe it, it seems he didn’t know about any investigation.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 16, 2018 17:08:16 GMT -5
The music industry accepts the likes of Chris Brown and R. Kelly back with little moral quandary. Enzo just being a schmuck won't mean a whole lot as long as has the talent and the right connections. His rapping is absolute horseshit on every level. No way he even moves Kevin Federline numbers, especially without McMahon's platform. No one ever said he was good but with the state of the music game someone may f*** around and give this fool a platform to release shit tracks that people will be feeling
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Post by chazraps on May 16, 2018 17:14:48 GMT -5
His rapping is absolute horseshit on every level. No way he even moves Kevin Federline numbers, especially without McMahon's platform. No one ever said he was good but with the state of the music game someone may f*** around and give this fool a platform to release shit tracks that people will be feeling I mean, taste is subjective, but he's entirely untested in this realm and his few showings scream of lackig evn the absolute most basic of fundamentals. Even with the state of the industry as it is, he struggles with even basing timing, counting bars, etc. Unless he's spent this time away being coached by the Drop the Mic cast, no way he succeeds.
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Post by mcstoklasa on May 16, 2018 17:22:28 GMT -5
I have been on this board for 9 years now and honestly a LOT of you should be ashamed for just basically accusing him without proof and trying to destroy his brand and name! I feel even more sick when I am reading this thread and the responses of the same people that posted about him being scum etc.basically show no remorse or anything like that. You basically almost destroyed this mans life along with that false accuser that should be put in jail IMO. I wrote something like this in the thread back then as well but my posts just got deleted and I got flamed to no end. I still hate Enzo though, but honestly he is probably a better human being than some people on this forum that accused him without a freakin trial. That’s the Internet for ya
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 17:22:56 GMT -5
No one ever said he was good but with the state of the music game someone may f*** around and give this fool a platform to release shit tracks that people will be feeling I mean, taste is subjective, but he's entirely untested in this realm and his few showings scream of lackig evn the absolute most basic of fundamentals. Even with the state of the industry as it is, he struggles with even basing timing, counting bars, etc. Unless he's spent this time away being coached by the Drop the Mic cast, no way he succeeds. But.....but.....he’s got a backpack!
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