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Post by ChitownKnight on May 30, 2018 8:31:30 GMT -5
Instead of giving hogan a 4 year run, I feel like piper should have taken the title for a short run in late 84 or early 85 and then dropped it to Hogan at the inaugural Wrestlemania. Now I wasn’t alive during the 80s but why have they never given Piper a run? Especially since this was the biggest rivalry of the 80s.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 30, 2018 8:45:27 GMT -5
Because that's not how the business worked then.
You had brief heel champions, but looooong babyface runs. And when the babyface beat the heel, they went down the card.
Buddy Rogers (heel) 22 days
Bruno Sammartino (face) 8 years
Ivan Koloff (heel) 21 days
Perdo Morales (face) 3 years
Stan Stasiak (heel) 9 days
Bruno (face) 3 years
Billy Graham (heel) 1 year
Bob Backlund (face) 6 years
Iron Sheik (heel) 28 days
All the heel runs combined weren't even close to the shortest single face run.
If anything, not winning helped Piper. If Piper had won the title, he'd have had to lose it and then he was done with. He never won, but he didn't lose either so he was able to stick around longer at the top than he ever would have if he'd held the belt.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 30, 2018 11:24:15 GMT -5
No, he would've never agreed to lose it
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 30, 2018 11:25:12 GMT -5
No.
I love Roddy, but he's someone that never needed the title.
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Post by SmashTV on May 30, 2018 11:37:26 GMT -5
Piper back then was the wrestler fans loved to hate, whilst Hogan who was the face of the company. If Piper became the champion, fans would most likely reject the product. They might show up to see if he'd lose, but as champion he wouldn't have been a good image for the company in 1984.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 14:22:02 GMT -5
Nope. Hulkamania was the way to go, it changed the game completely. Piper is awesome, but it wouldn’t have had the same effect.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 31, 2018 14:50:53 GMT -5
Didn't need it.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 31, 2018 16:16:05 GMT -5
No, he would've never agreed to lose it Piper has stated he never wanted titles because then the promotion had something over him. He wanted as much control as possible. If he was champ, he’d owed the promotion something. |
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Post by mattyc on May 31, 2018 19:24:50 GMT -5
It's fun to go back in time and fantasy book, but in the case of 80s Piper, I wouldn't rewrite history at all.
He was perfect as the charismatic loud mouth heel who made people care about the face who was holding the Championship. He was on top of the Wrestling World in that role. He didn't need the Championship himself.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jun 1, 2018 6:21:33 GMT -5
Why would Piper need a belt when he was wearing a skirt?
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Post by chronocross on Jun 1, 2018 6:22:49 GMT -5
Nah he was just fine as the loudmouth guy who had his talk show segment on the TV shows and worked on the house show circuit feuding with either Hogan/Orndorff/Snuka, etc.
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Post by The Barber on Jun 1, 2018 6:38:23 GMT -5
Why would Piper need a belt when he was wearing a skirt?  |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jun 1, 2018 7:38:41 GMT -5
Why would Piper need a belt when he was wearing a skirt? I never said belt, I said title 😉 |
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Post by brody on Jun 2, 2018 11:05:30 GMT -5
Piper showed why he couldn't be trusted when he went back to Portland a few weeks after WM 1 to work for Don Owens without Vince's consent.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 2, 2018 13:16:10 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Piper didn't really need the title and Hulkamania was just taking off in 1984 so it would make no sense to job Hogan at that stage. I mentioned this in another thread that I do feel Piper should have gotten a brief WCW title run from Starrcade 1996 until SuperBrawl 1997. It was insulting that the Starrcade match with Hogan was non title. Piper could have won there and Hogan regained with the Savage heel turn at the Feb. 97 show. And since the roles were reversed the fans were fully behind Piper at that point.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 3, 2018 5:01:02 GMT -5
Piper showed why he couldn't be trusted when he went back to Portland a few weeks after WM 1 to work for Don Owens without Vince's consent. Piper never signed a contract with Vince at that time, I believe. I know Vince was after him to. Not sure when he finally did. He makes a huge deal out of this in his first book. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 3, 2018 5:54:11 GMT -5
Nope. At Starrcade 1996, sure maybe, but Hulk was the golden goose in 1984. It was better for Piper to chase him, he was the Skeletor to his He-Man.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jun 3, 2018 11:15:15 GMT -5
Good Lord, no. Hogan was in the process of becoming the biggest name in American wrestling since Gorgeous George, doing anything to hinder that would have been crazy.
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