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Post by msc on Feb 9, 2019 13:20:56 GMT -5
Bumping an old thread instead of starting a new one, but I recently caught up on the PPVs since Summerslam I missed (not Crown Jewel obv). And the Iiconics crack me up. The overall package of OTT Laycool started off a bit underwhelming but now its become Billie Kay walks into a fight and her friend Peyton (the storyline far better wrestler) has to try and bail her out, its a lot more enjoyable. Their rumble stuff had me in stitches, and I have a heart of stone for WWE humour.
Also, at Evolution, when they did their very OTT pre-match promo, camera cut to the full ring and at least 3 of the other women were desperately trying not to corpse with laughter.
So 'mon the Iiconics.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 9, 2019 14:13:20 GMT -5
They're pretty hilarious, particularly when interacting with other people. The strident, shrill Aussie gimmick works:
But it would be better if they got to wrestle more and seemed like legit threats, as well as a comedy act.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Feb 9, 2019 15:53:29 GMT -5
Plus to paraphrase the bard, on a scale of one to ten Peyton is a certified twenty!
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Post by Shai on Feb 9, 2019 15:56:25 GMT -5
I consider them the only actual Tag Team of the women's division but we all know Hug N Boss are winning those.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 9, 2019 16:02:50 GMT -5
I hope people don't misunderstand this question, but... what's wrong with Billie Kay's face? It didn't used to look like that. Is it the lipstick?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 16:09:00 GMT -5
Cringe worthy. I mean just seeing that YT clip I feel embarrassed even watching them cut a promo. It’s that bad.
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Post by bog on Feb 9, 2019 16:09:10 GMT -5
I think they're the funniest thing in WWE. I don't see them as a "mean girls" gimmick as much as silly delusional heels
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 16:15:31 GMT -5
I consider them the only actual Tag Team of the women's division but we all know Hug N Boss are winning those. I’ve seen this take on reddit when it comes to the IICONICS and I’m often left curious as to what genuinely constitutes a tag team to be an actual tag team in the women’s division? Boss n Hug were bitter enemies turned friends due to their passion for wrestling and I assume respect earned from one another’s skills. Liv and Sarah have been there since 2017 and have been in tag action numerous times, plus have a story of being two misfits who look after one another like a family. Nia and Tamina I believe stated that they were united by blood. Fire n Desire were United thanks to tough enough/Absolution and formed a bond from there. IICONICS are self explanatory. The only one that doesn’t really seem like a team is Carmella and Naomi and even then you can technically just use their love for dancing lol
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 9, 2019 16:47:57 GMT -5
I consider them the only actual Tag Team of the women's division but we all know Hug N Boss are winning those. I can see them getting the titles eventually. Even though they almost always lose I think they like them in a Santino/Heath Slater way in that they clearly don't take themselves seriously and don't mind looking like goofballs which is a mentality that usually leads to long employment and getting rewarded eventually. At the moment though I would say they have the least chance of winning other then maybe the Riott Squad which is unfortunate as those two are the two actual best teams in the match when it comes to chemistry. However with it being WrestleMania season you know they're going with the bigger stars that have been pushed more whether it be Sasha and Bayley or Nia as they are going to want to get all of them on the card on somehow. I hate to say it but I see Nia/Tamina winning. They clearly want to push Nia more as she's been getting a lot of focus lately and I can see them wanting to give Tamina a pity title reign before she retires since they seem to have a soft spot for her.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Feb 9, 2019 16:52:17 GMT -5
I hope people don't misunderstand this question, but... what's wrong with Billie Kay's face? It didn't used to look like that. Is it the lipstick? She had extreme proportions and it just shows more when she's made up....
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 9, 2019 16:55:51 GMT -5
I like Peyton and Billie a lot. I like the gimmick.
Billie's horrible lipstick is obnoxious and distracting and whoever lets her wear it on should be fined their annual salary every single time.
Peyton did a pin on SmackDown last week that was so bad, someone needs to review the tape and whoever is responsible for it should also be fined their annual salary.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:00:15 GMT -5
Payton seems alright. I can see her having a decent run with the woman’s title one day.
Billie Kate looks like a long lost Bella twin or a deer in the headlights.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 17:10:23 GMT -5
I think all they need to do is be in a serious program. Once that happens we'll be able to see if they can work out because right now they're just a lower card act.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 9, 2019 17:38:31 GMT -5
All I know is between their handholding and longing looks, and the colours of their entrance graphics, I'm convinced someone is trying to slip some bisexual representation in under the radar.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:51:40 GMT -5
All I know is between their handholding and longing looks, and the colours of their entrance graphics, I'm convinced someone is trying to slip some bisexual representation in under the radar. Oh, they're definitely a couple in kayfabe. I have no doubt about that. Anyway, while they seem to have gotten worse in the ring since the call up, I still love The IIconics!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:53:07 GMT -5
I feel like I should like them a lot less than I actually do. Their promos are often awkward and offputting, they're kind of mediocre at best in the ring... but I dunno, I enjoy seeing them.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 9, 2019 20:08:33 GMT -5
All I know is between their handholding and longing looks, and the colours of their entrance graphics, I'm convinced someone is trying to slip some bisexual representation in under the radar. Oh, they're definitely a couple in kayfabe. I have no doubt about that. Anyway, while they seem to have gotten worse in the ring since the call up, I still love The IIconics! I think Meltz made a meal out of how he worded it when he was saying it but he was right. They disappeared off NXT before their call up for a few months, and when they appeared on SmackDown they were a lot more.... top heavy.... I think they're both being overly cautious of damaging their enhancements.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:09:40 GMT -5
They should win the tag titles.
I’m calling it.
Sasha should turn on Bayley during the chamber leading to a Wrestlemania match. The idea being that she’d never want to be champion with a “loser like Bayley”. Sasha would have her motives. Her stock has fallen massively ever since being associated with Bayley. If given time, this could steal the show at WM. But the build HAS to be right... no stupid anger management segments like before. Just a straight up blood feud. Come to think of it... it would be groundbreaking if they allowed Bayley to blade during this match. Even a blood packet. That could elevate Bayley to the next level.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2019 20:15:23 GMT -5
They should win the tag titles. I’m calling it. Sasha should turn on Bayley during the chamber leading to a Wrestlemania match. The idea being that she’d never want to be champion with a “loser like Bayley”. Sasha would have her motives. Her stock has fallen massively ever since being associated with Bayley. If given time, this could steal the show at WM. But the build HAS to be right... no stupid anger management segments like before. Just a straight up blood feud. Come to think of it... it would be groundbreaking if they allowed Bayley to blade during this match. Even a blood packet. That could elevate Bayley to the next level. How would actively avoiding winning the title help Sasha's stock, though? Like, I can follow it to a degree, but I am just picturing that the first time Bayley or another face gets the mic, it's probably going to go, "Did you do that to save yourself the trouble of losing it on the first defense?" And Sasha would be dead in the water, because it's the obvious go-to, and there's no way she'd have any comeback for it. I feel like if she turns heel, it's probably going to have to be after at least tackling her most crippling part of her reputation if she's going to not look lower on the totem pole than Nia from the word go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:19:26 GMT -5
They should win the tag titles. I’m calling it. Sasha should turn on Bayley during the chamber leading to a Wrestlemania match. The idea being that she’d never want to be champion with a “loser like Bayley”. Sasha would have her motives. Her stock has fallen massively ever since being associated with Bayley. If given time, this could steal the show at WM. But the build HAS to be right... no stupid anger management segments like before. Just a straight up blood feud. Come to think of it... it would be groundbreaking if they allowed Bayley to blade during this match. Even a blood packet. That could elevate Bayley to the next level. How would actively avoiding winning the title help Sasha's stock, though? Like, I can follow it to a degree, but I am just picturing that the first time Bayley or another face gets the mic, it's probably going to go, "Did you do that to save yourself the trouble of losing it on the first defense?" And Sasha would be dead in the water, because it's the obvious go-to, and there's no way she'd have any comeback for it. I feel like if she turns heel, it's probably going to have to be after at least tackling her most crippling part of her reputation if she's going to not look lower on the totem pole than Nia from the word go. Sasha would be a heel. She’s not supposed to be right. It would be more than okay for Bayley to hit her with that line. In Sasha’s POV, Bayley is holding her down. She wouldn’t want to “carry her” by being Tag Champions with her. To me, it makes sense and has potential to be one of the best feuds of the year if done right. Key sentence: “If done right”... last year, it couldn’t have been done any worse if they tried.
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