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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jul 27, 2018 17:22:51 GMT -5
so does this mean that F4 are usable for the mcu phase following the infinity war? What other marvel characters does this leave outside of disney's hands? Hulk is technically still a Universal property hence the lack of a Ruffalo solo film. Namor's rights are sketchy but last word was that he belonged to Universal. The Spider-Man characters that Sony want to use in their own universe are off limits for now I guess.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 27, 2018 17:47:03 GMT -5
Never watched it, but I'd be shocked if it was anything as over the top as FG. Plus it's a different time now. Don’t Trust the B was on the air 6 years ago... And a lot has changed that quickly.
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Post by eJm on Jul 27, 2018 18:21:29 GMT -5
Don’t Trust the B was on the air 6 years ago... And a lot has changed that quickly. But here’s the key thing you’re forgotting about Disney; They don’t interrupt things that make money. And what makes money? Family Guy in syndication. Fox was already making money big time from the success of it on Adult Swim, which I remind you is on a completely different network from a completely different company. And considering Fox’ll be probably paying them to make the show and to put that show on the air, do you honestly see Disney changing that for the sake of it to hinder that? Disney’ll be potentially having TWO revenue streams from one show, and that’s not even taking into account American Dad, Cleveland Show and whatever else is there from Fox.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 27, 2018 18:31:21 GMT -5
Now people can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but as far as I can tell, Disney isn’t proposing a full merger with 20th Century Fox. It’s a purchase, so the existing company will continue to exist under new ownership. Obviously, some properties will transfer (Marvel gets the Marvel stuff, odds are no more Fox animated children’s movies if they even still did so and a few others) but Fox is going to continue on as Fox much like Lucasfilm still exists as its own entity, run by its own people, just owned by Disney. I can’t see them sacking a popular show like Family Guy, or Archer, or It’s Always Sunny just because they’re owned by Disney now.
Roseanne said some horrible things, not in the context of a tv show, or a comedy sketch. As her, by her. Unless Seth McFarlane decides to tweet out tomorrow “Jews are what’s wrong with Hollywood” or something equally as awful, his offensive humour is in the context of the show and I think they’re gonna leave him be and keep it under the Fox umbrella. At least, that’s my read on things.
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Post by eJm on Jul 27, 2018 18:35:44 GMT -5
Yeah, basically Fox’ll become a hub for programming where they get money from the advertising revenue and Disney gets money Fox pays them for the programming.
I mean, it started being this way when some of their main programming was Gotham (from Warner Bros) and Brooklyn None Nine before it got cancelled (from NBC Universal) but it’s pretty much staying that way without the costs of production and such.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jul 27, 2018 18:46:57 GMT -5
Man, with everything they own now. Disney has a hell of a lot of content for their upcoming streaming service. Disney, Pixar Marvel, Lucasfilm, Fox Movies, Fox TV, The Muppets, ESPN, ABC, Touchstone, Miramax.. etc... etc But watch them f*** it up somehow. They always almost f*** things up at launch. It will be either overpriced, buggy as hell, disappointing and limited content (meaning it will take a while before they add worthwhile content), it will be only available on certain streaming devices at first, and not on obvious ones a lot of people have (like an Xbox, PS4 or Apple TV), or it will be only available for TVs with their own exclusively made device, the video and/or sound quality won't be the best, Overseas markets will be locked out of a lot of content because they sold off the airing rights to local networks and such years ago and the deals have not expired, the menus will be a nightmare to browse (just saying.. I think Disney has something to do with the WWE Network, I think they own the operating system that runs it.. and those with the WWE Network will know what I'm talking about on how hard it is to find a certain thing) Oh it will have ads... gotta get that 7 bil back somehow Just watch something like that will happpen
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Post by Psy on Jul 27, 2018 18:50:09 GMT -5
And suddenly the Disney streaming service looks a lot more promising.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 27, 2018 19:00:07 GMT -5
And a lot has changed that quickly. But here’s the key thing you’re forgotting about Disney; They don’t interrupt things that make money. And what makes money? Family Guy in syndication. Fox was already making money big time from the success of it on Adult Swim, which I remind you is on a completely different network from a completely different company. And considering Fox’ll be probably paying them to make the show and to put that show on the air, do you honestly see Disney changing that for the sake of it to hinder that? Disney’ll be potentially having TWO revenue streams from one show, and that’s not even taking into account American Dad, Cleveland Show and whatever else is there from Fox. And consider that a significant portion of the Fox back catalogue they'll be acquiring is in the higher age rating brackets. Disney are spending ungodly amounts of money on this deal, so they almost have no choice but to keep it all going. A lot of it won't carry the Disney brand, and we won't see the Griffins, Deadpool, or Mulder and Scully appearing on parades at Disneyland, but those are revenue streams Disney will want to keep open.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 27, 2018 19:35:29 GMT -5
Now people can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but as far as I can tell, Disney isn’t proposing a full merger with 20th Century Fox. It’s a purchase, so the existing company will continue to exist under new ownership. Obviously, some properties will transfer (Marvel gets the Marvel stuff, odds are no more Fox animated children’s movies if they even still did so and a few others) but Fox is going to continue on as Fox much like Lucasfilm still exists as its own entity, run by its own people, just owned by Disney. I can’t see them sacking a popular show like Family Guy, or Archer, or It’s Always Sunny just because they’re owned by Disney now. With this sort of situation, it will likely be a mixture of things. I can see Blue Sky (Fox's animation studio) getting folded into Disney's TV/DTV animation unit, or at least the properties from it (Ice Age, most notably). On that note, Fox Animation currently has no less than 14 projects in development. Expect all of those to be cancelled. The film library will likely be folded into the overall Disney catalog, with no separate caretakers, same way Warner Bros did when they purchased MGM's library before spinning the company off again, library-less.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 27, 2018 19:42:56 GMT -5
And suddenly the Disney streaming service looks a lot more promising. I've been saying since the beginning this was a primary reason for the purchase; it wasn't just Star Wars and Marvel rights, it was to bolster the library on a grand scale. A lot of it won't carry the Disney brand, and we won't see the Griffins, Deadpool, or Mulder and Scully appearing on parades at Disneyland, but those are revenue streams Disney will want to keep open. Griffins and DP I can agree with, but I wouldn't be surprised to see X-Files make at least one appearance. The Stitch's Great Escape show in Tomorrowland still uses the basic set-up of the old Extra-Terrorestrial show; I can see it being re-modified with Mulder and Scully as the hosts.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 27, 2018 20:03:51 GMT -5
Black Panther got pushed back 9 months when Marvel became able to use Spider-Man in that spot. I wonder what they're going to shuffle around to make room for the new acquisitions. With James Gunn's situation, it could benefit them to postpone Guardians 3 and try to get an FF movie in that place on their release calendar.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 27, 2018 20:12:35 GMT -5
While the idea of more Marvel character coming 'home' especially as the current guard ages out/contracts expire is cool, I am a little uncomfortable with Disney being the sole owner of more and more pop culture stuff.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 27, 2018 20:27:30 GMT -5
While the idea of more Marvel character coming 'home' especially as the current guard ages out/contracts expire is cool, I am a little uncomfortable with Disney being the sole owner of more and more pop culture stuff. I feel similarly, but also that Comcast wouldn't have been any less discomforting, given their own holdings.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 27, 2018 20:34:13 GMT -5
While the idea of more Marvel character coming 'home' especially as the current guard ages out/contracts expire is cool, I am a little uncomfortable with Disney being the sole owner of more and more pop culture stuff. I feel similarly, but also that Comcast wouldn't have been any less discomforting, given their own holdings. Oh for sure, I shoulda said ANY big media conglomerate owning more and more pop culture.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jul 27, 2018 20:47:08 GMT -5
And suddenly the Disney streaming service looks a lot more promising. I've been saying since the beginning this was a primary reason for the purchase; it wasn't just Star Wars and Marvel rights, it was to bolster the library on a grand scale. A lot of it won't carry the Disney brand, and we won't see the Griffins, Deadpool, or Mulder and Scully appearing on parades at Disneyland, but those are revenue streams Disney will want to keep open. Griffins and DP I can agree with, but I wouldn't be surprised to see X-Files make at least one appearance. The Stitch's Great Escape show in Tomorrowland still uses the basic set-up of the old Extra-Terrorestrial show; I can see it being re-modified with Mulder and Scully as the hosts. The defunct Disney Park attraction Alien Encounter could return with an actual Xenomorph Alien... and the lab setting can now be part of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation with the story they have actually captured a live Xenomorph
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 27, 2018 20:51:13 GMT -5
I've been saying since the beginning this was a primary reason for the purchase; it wasn't just Star Wars and Marvel rights, it was to bolster the library on a grand scale. Griffins and DP I can agree with, but I wouldn't be surprised to see X-Files make at least one appearance. The Stitch's Great Escape show in Tomorrowland still uses the basic set-up of the old Extra-Terrorestrial show; I can see it being re-modified with Mulder and Scully as the hosts. The defunct Disney Park attraction Alien Encounter could return with an actual Xenomorph Alien... and the lab setting can now be part of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation with the story they have actually captured a live Xenomorph We're referring to the same show I believe, but yeah, can see it being retooled as an Alien property for a season or two as well.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 27, 2018 21:00:55 GMT -5
While the idea of more Marvel character coming 'home' especially as the current guard ages out/contracts expire is cool, I am a little uncomfortable with Disney being the sole owner of more and more pop culture stuff. I'm still fully expecting them to look Hasbro's way at some point. For a company of their nature, one big thing they're lacking is a strong in-house toy brand, and like Fox, it would be killing a bunch of birds with one stone if they snagged it. Big things like getting the Star Wars and Marvel lines under house control and full profit, more minor things like getting a large part of Marvel's 1980s licensed output back under house.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 27, 2018 21:05:00 GMT -5
The defunct Disney Park attraction Alien Encounter could return with an actual Xenomorph Alien... and the lab setting can now be part of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation with the story they have actually captured a live Xenomorph We're referring to the same show I believe, but yeah, can see it being retooled as an Alien property for a season or two as well. I believe they're actually in the process of putting something brand new in this space.
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Post by chrom on Jul 27, 2018 21:46:08 GMT -5
While the idea of more Marvel character coming 'home' especially as the current guard ages out/contracts expire is cool, I am a little uncomfortable with Disney being the sole owner of more and more pop culture stuff. The Mouse already owns 42% of the world. In another twenty years they'll own the rest of it.
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Post by eJm on Sept 23, 2018 8:41:07 GMT -5
Only bumping this because, funnily enough, the reason FOX sold most of their production arm was to finally go through with their bid to get BSkyB in the UK raise their stake in something they've never fully owned.
They've been outbid for this by...Comcast.
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