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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 20:38:33 GMT -5
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 26, 2018 20:48:38 GMT -5
I believe a few months ago when first confirmation of the "Snyder Cut" existing was reported, it was stated to be a more or less cut film without the finished effects.
WB took a bath on this movie. There is no way they'd ever sink MORE money into it for another release with completed effects. They could release it as a workprint edition, but the Snyder nerds will never get a completed version of the film.
It always baffles me that these hardcore fans who claim to have all this insight into these properties seem to lack the most basic comprehension of how the film industry works.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 26, 2018 20:52:47 GMT -5
I believe a few months ago when first confirmation of the "Snyder Cut" existing was reported, it was stated to be a more or less cut film without the finished effects. WB took a bath on this movie. There is no way they'd ever sink MORE money into it for another release with completed effects. They could release it as a workprint edition, but the Snyder nerds will never get a completed version of the film. It always baffles me that these hardcore fans who claim to have all this insight into these properties seem to lack the most basic comprehension of how the film industry works. Seriously, as I said in the Snyder explains everything thread... Jeez people, Move on. 1. the cut is not finished it would not have any of the effects in place. 2. It was a money loser, a parent company isn't going to waste it's time putting out special editions on a movie that bombed. (it need to make like at least 100 million more than it did to be successful... it bombed) 3. if rumors are to be believed multiple people who saw Snyder's cut called it "Unwatchable" which is the real reason Whedon was brought on. (and again how Snyder's basically acted like a massive baby on TWitter post Justice League I fully believe he was fired.) 4. The parts people seem to like the most of Justice League... pretty much everything Superman related... all seem to be Whedon additions. and I bet if they finally cave to the demand for the Snyder cut... and it's awful they'll claim that what? Marvel fans snuck in and changed it? That the WB execs did it to make him look bad?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 26, 2018 21:14:48 GMT -5
I believe a few months ago when first confirmation of the "Snyder Cut" existing was reported, it was stated to be a more or less cut film without the finished effects. WB took a bath on this movie. There is no way they'd ever sink MORE money into it for another release with completed effects. They could release it as a workprint edition, but the Snyder nerds will never get a completed version of the film. It always baffles me that these hardcore fans who claim to have all this insight into these properties seem to lack the most basic comprehension of how the film industry works. That's the key thing. A best-case scenario is the workprint gets slapped onto a bonus disc in a future JL rerelease. This isn't a Last Jedi-like situation where the movie is one of the biggest box office successes of all time and was a huge seller in the home market despite fan criticism. Justice League lost - and this is a conservative estimate - $60 million. Warner Bros. have written it off and are concentrating on salvaging the rest of the DCEU.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 21:17:07 GMT -5
God how much worse could it get? Maybe synder actually did his stupid wonder woman's armour is red cause of the blood of her enemies bullshit
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 26, 2018 21:17:53 GMT -5
The crazy thing there will be the fanboys who will probably laud this shit as the best thing ever and all it's probably going to be is 10 mins of Bruce Wayne picking up prostitutes This is Zack Snyder, not FRANK MILLER'S Justice League. /Uh-oh. //Gave them an idea. Well, Snyder basically ripped off, er, I mean, WAS INSPIRED BY Dark Knight Returns in making BvS, so...yeah.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 26, 2018 21:20:32 GMT -5
This is Zack Snyder, not FRANK MILLER'S Justice League. /Uh-oh. //Gave them an idea. Well, Snyder basically ripped off, er, I mean, WAS INSPIRED BY Dark Knight Returns in making BvS, so...yeah. Nah inspired is pretty accurate... as it implies he had no idea why things happened in the story... or really remembered how shit happened.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 26, 2018 21:26:23 GMT -5
And it's probably even worse than the theatrical version. I'm willing to bet this isn't exactly the Donner Cut of Superman II. considering the parts I've heard people talk about liking from Justice League are pretty blatantly Whedon additions. I don't doubt that the Snyder cut is f***ing terrible. I saw a Bleeding Cool article about the fabled Snyder cut that had the words "faux feminist Joss Whedon" in the first sentence and knew where it was going and removed Bleeding Cool from my Google alerts.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 26, 2018 22:08:39 GMT -5
DC fans must be getting desperate if their saving grace is a Zack Snyder version of an already terrible film. One thing I love about reading Hit Girl's posts. She is always on point.
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Post by Glitch on Jun 26, 2018 23:32:07 GMT -5
If its never released, these fans will probably riot (all five of them).
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 26, 2018 23:43:46 GMT -5
If its never released, these fans will probably riot (all five of them). The worrying thing is there's definitely a significant amount of Snyder die-hards. Not enough to carry the movie to box office profits, but enough to be an annoyance to the rest of us.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 27, 2018 5:23:40 GMT -5
DC fans must be getting desperate if their saving grace is a Zack Snyder version of an already terrible film. One thing I love about reading Hit Girl's posts. She is always on point. Aww, thanks. But to be fair, shredding Zack Snyder is like shooting fish in a barrel. In slow motion, and desaturated colours.
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Post by Jiren on Jun 27, 2018 5:46:37 GMT -5
DC fans must be getting desperate if their saving grace is a Zack Snyder version of an already terrible film. I'm a DC fan and I don't care about the Snyder cut, Even the Whedon version was ass.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 27, 2018 5:58:03 GMT -5
DC fans must be getting desperate if their saving grace is a Zack Snyder version of an already terrible film. I'm a DC fan and I don't care about the Snyder cut, Even the Whedon version was ass. Don't lump us all together Doctor Doom could never be a DC fan.
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Post by Juice on Jun 27, 2018 6:15:53 GMT -5
I liked bvs. Wasn't perfect, but I liked ir. I've generally liked most Snyder movies, even if I am tired of his style these days. I have not watched JL. And likely won't unless his cut is released. Then I'll watch both. As of now I'm burned out on comic,book adaptations for a plethora of reasons. At some point it would be nice if everyone took a step back and looked at all of the studio interference from WB, and placed some blame there where it belongs for the DCEU being what it is. It's well documented.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 27, 2018 6:35:30 GMT -5
Well, Snyder basically ripped off, er, I mean, WAS INSPIRED BY Dark Knight Returns in making BvS, so...yeah. Nah inspired is pretty accurate... as it implies he had no idea why things happened in the story... or really remembered how shit happened. Wait, you mean Batman didn't shoot somebody in the head? There's one thing that not even Snyder diehards have a legit answer for, when it comes to his Batman. If this is a Batman that has basically been broken by fighting crime to the point where he has no problem killing mooks left and right, why hasn't he killed Joker? If Batman kills, why is Joker still alive?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 7:38:21 GMT -5
Nah inspired is pretty accurate... as it implies he had no idea why things happened in the story... or really remembered how shit happened. Wait, you mean Batman didn't shoot somebody in the head? There's one thing that not even Snyder diehards have a legit answer for, when it comes to his Batman. If this is a Batman that has basically been broken by fighting crime to the point where he has no problem killing mooks left and right, why hasn't he killed Joker? If Batman kills, why is Joker still alive? Shut up, that's why! In due seriousness, however, I'm guessing that's a DC mandate, not a Snyder decision. Which is funny because the movie that reinvigorated the franchise 30 years ago ended with the Joker dead on the ground.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 27, 2018 7:44:25 GMT -5
And remember folks-Snyder is going to direct an Ayn Rand movie!
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 27, 2018 8:20:27 GMT -5
The only way I could see a different cut of Justice League being successful is if it used different effects, story, actors, director and Superman with a 70's porno mustache.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 27, 2018 8:40:03 GMT -5
Zack Snyder is f***ing terrible and I'm certain that this Snyder Cut is goddamn garbage. All the screeching adult babies who think his edgelord bullshit's some kind of stroke of genius deserve to be teased with it's existence, but never see it for the rest of time.
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