El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jul 14, 2018 2:05:14 GMT -5
Has happened a few times in Dragon Gate since they have an annual match where the loser puts up their hair or mask. I have a Toryumon show on disc with a 5-man cage match main event, where wrestlers try to escape until there are two left, then the loser between the two has his head shaved. Genki Horiguchi was part of the heel team DoFIXER but was a solid fan favorite in a kind-of-feud with DoFIXER leader Magnum Tokyo. Horiguchi lost. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 14, 2018 2:19:32 GMT -5
Has happened a few times in Dragon Gate since they have an annual match where the loser puts up their hair or mask. I wish WWE kept it going. For instance there's no reason why Trips and Corbin couldn't have put their hair up in respective matches since they were getting rid of it anyway. Why not try to make something out of it instead? Corbin's hairline was so bad that I don't think anyone would have bought him winning a hair match for a single second. Hell, I wouldn't even buy him being upset that he has to cut his hair. |
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Post by Starshine on Jul 14, 2018 2:21:51 GMT -5
Has happened a few times in Dragon Gate since they have an annual match where the loser puts up their hair or mask. I wish WWE kept it going. For instance there's no reason why Trips and Corbin couldn't have put their hair up in respective matches since they were getting rid of it anyway. Why not try to make something out of it instead? Corbin's hairline was so bad that I don't think anyone would have bought him winning a hair match for a single second. Hell, I wouldn't even buy him being upset that he has to cut his hair. Still you can use it to develop a feud. Like, imagine if the Balor/Corbin match at the next PPV had that stip instead of... nothing? It's something, at least. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 14, 2018 2:31:51 GMT -5
Corbin's hairline was so bad that I don't think anyone would have bought him winning a hair match for a single second. Hell, I wouldn't even buy him being upset that he has to cut his hair. Still you can use it to develop a feud. Like, imagine if the Balor/Corbin match at the next PPV had that stip instead of... nothing? It's something, at least. I get the logic behind that, but the one thing I can say for Balor/Corbin on Sunday is that I could see either guy winning it. Balor winning would give him momentum going into a possible Summerslam program, but Corbin could use a victory to give him momentum in his new Constable gimmick. You put hair vs. hair on that match, you might as well just skip it because you know Finn isn't shaving his head while Corbin has already lost half the battle with Father Time. |
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Jul 14, 2018 2:55:42 GMT -5
The Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant lost a hair vs hair match to Number One Paul Jones. I like how it was done, at first he's wincing and grimacing while having his head shaved and then after a while he just stares blankly into the camera like his soul was taken from him. I think that's exactly what happened to him. |
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Post by Starshine on Jul 14, 2018 3:14:07 GMT -5
Still you can use it to develop a feud. Like, imagine if the Balor/Corbin match at the next PPV had that stip instead of... nothing? It's something, at least. I get the logic behind that, but the one thing I can say for Balor/Corbin on Sunday is that I could see either guy winning it. Balor winning would give him momentum going into a possible Summerslam program, but Corbin could use a victory to give him momentum in his new Constable gimmick. You put hair vs. hair on that match, you might as well just skip it because you know Finn isn't shaving his head while Corbin has already lost half the battle with Father Time. You're also assuming that either guy has any sort of shot of moving up the card following this when recent WWE programming tells me that's rarely the case. In WWE momentum is a sputtering car in that it can start and stop on a whim, and unless something is moving now, there's no guarantee anything important is beyond the horizon. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 14, 2018 4:08:19 GMT -5
I get the logic behind that, but the one thing I can say for Balor/Corbin on Sunday is that I could see either guy winning it. Balor winning would give him momentum going into a possible Summerslam program, but Corbin could use a victory to give him momentum in his new Constable gimmick. You put hair vs. hair on that match, you might as well just skip it because you know Finn isn't shaving his head while Corbin has already lost half the battle with Father Time. You're also assuming that either guy has any sort of shot of moving up the card following this when recent WWE programming tells me that's rarely the case. In WWE momentum is a sputtering car in that it can start and stop on a whim, and unless something is moving now, there's no guarantee anything important is beyond the horizon. *sigh* Well, that was in theory, but tragic reality is that either Corbin loses his hair in a match that ultimately does nothing for either dude, or Finn vs. Corbin have a singles match that does very little for whoever wins. |
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Post by bshadye413 on Jul 14, 2018 19:27:15 GMT -5
Nash lost a hair vs hair match vs Jericho if I’m not mistaken
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Post by Shark on Jul 14, 2018 21:12:36 GMT -5
And speaking of Russo, he himself beat Ric Flair in a hair match, in one of the biggest low points of his booking tenure of WCW. Flair mentioned on his book that it was the lowest point of his career, the greatest of all time losing to a writer. That destroyed his confidence and it took years for it to recover. If I recall correctly, Flair also left shortly after to deal with an injury and by the time he did come back, his hair had already grown out so it really was a waste of an angle. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 14, 2018 21:19:48 GMT -5
Flair mentioned on his book that it was the lowest point of his career, the greatest of all time losing to a writer. That destroyed his confidence and it took years for it to recover. If I recall correctly, Flair also left shortly after to deal with an injury and by the time he did come back, his hair had already grown out so it really was a waste of an angle. That's Vince Russo booking for you. He also had Flair kidnapped and Ric appeared sometime later, the kidnapping was never explained. Russo's main problem is that he writes a story without an ending in mind. |
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Post by Shark on Jul 14, 2018 21:30:24 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, Flair also left shortly after to deal with an injury and by the time he did come back, his hair had already grown out so it really was a waste of an angle. That's Vince Russo booking for you. He also had Flair kidnapped and Ric appeared sometime later, the kidnapping was never explained. Russo's main problem is that he writes a story without an ending in mind. Russo is actually a really good chapter 1 writer. You want to kick an angle off big, Russo can do it so long as you reign him in ala Vince. But he can start the race for you, he can't finish it. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 14, 2018 22:07:05 GMT -5
Something I've been thinking about related to hair matches: When was last time in a major North American promotion (not counting the battle of the billionaires) where a guy who's hair was his gimmick was in and lost a hair match? Mostly it seems like nearly bald guy vs nearly bald guy or nearly bald guy vs guy with a great head of hair who clearly isn't doing the job.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 14, 2018 22:14:52 GMT -5
Something I've been thinking about related to hair matches: When was last time in a major North American promotion (not counting the battle of the billionaires) where a guy who's hair was his gimmick was in and lost a hair match? Mostly it seems like nearly bald guy vs nearly bald guy or nearly bald guy vs guy with a great head of hair who clearly isn't doing the job. CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio in the Hair vs. Straight Edge Society membership match. They built up Punk's hair being a symbol of his straight edge purity where his followers had to shave their hair before joining, which led to Mysterio either bringing Punk off his high horse, or being forced to join their ranks. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 14, 2018 22:17:23 GMT -5
Something I've been thinking about related to hair matches: When was last time in a major North American promotion (not counting the battle of the billionaires) where a guy who's hair was his gimmick was in and lost a hair match? Mostly it seems like nearly bald guy vs nearly bald guy or nearly bald guy vs guy with a great head of hair who clearly isn't doing the job. Only major example in a major U.S. promotion was when CM Punk lost his hair during his Straight Edge Society gimmick to Rey Mysterio. Punk's hair was a major part of his gimmick as he forced others to shave their head as a symbol of cleansing themselves of their past sins. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 14, 2018 23:04:03 GMT -5
That's Vince Russo booking for you. He also had Flair kidnapped and Ric appeared sometime later, the kidnapping was never explained. Russo's main problem is that he writes a story without an ending in mind. Russo is actually a really good chapter 1 writer. You want to kick an angle off big, Russo can do it so long as you reign him in ala Vince. But he can start the race for you, he can't finish it. Ding Ding Ding Bischoff explained it best and decimated Russo. Vince Russo can come up with a great image, for example Vampiro in a graveyard match, but if you tell him "that's great Vince, but where do we go from there? Where are we gonna be next week or a month from that?" and he turns into a deer in the headlights. Russo doesn't know the three act structure of a story and that's why when he doesn't have an editor everything he books turns into shit. |
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Post by Shark on Jul 14, 2018 23:31:53 GMT -5
Russo is actually a really good chapter 1 writer. You want to kick an angle off big, Russo can do it so long as you reign him in ala Vince. But he can start the race for you, he can't finish it. Ding Ding Ding Bischoff explained it best and decimated Russo. Vince Russo can come up with a great image, for example Vampiro in a graveyard match, but if you tell him "that's great Vince, but where do we go from there? Where are we gonna be next week or a month from that?" and he turns into a deer in the headlights. Russo doesn't know the three act structure of a story and that's why when he doesn't have an editor everything he books turns into shit. I think Russo has even stated he hates reading books. A writer who hates reading can't learn. |
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jul 15, 2018 11:13:03 GMT -5
What is love is for this to happen:
Guy A has a hair match coming up on a PPV with Guy B. So, on a TV show, a stablemate of Guy A has a hair match against a jobber, just to show Guy B how it’s all gonna go down.
Somehow, Guy A’s stablemate loses (probably thanks to Guy B) and gets his haircut.
Alternatively, if there is no PPV hair match upcoming, somehow set up a hair match for Guy A against a jobber on TV, and have him lose in the same way his stablemate above would have.
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