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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jul 24, 2018 18:10:54 GMT -5
I wonder if we could chart how and when Vince's attitude changed... I mean, when he took the WWF/E to a national level, he had the mindset of either absorbing other territories or destroying competition. After a while he must have realized that in doing so, he was shutting down the places where wrestlers were learning how to wrestle, right? What was the point where he looked at the new talent that they were bringing to the ring and he said to himself "We gotta teach this guy some wrestling"? Well, the story is that Vince actually offered the other promotions a chance to join or help him in the new era of wrestling and they laughed in his face. And they paid the price because they thought the old nwa/territory style was working and “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” mentality. |
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jul 25, 2018 6:58:47 GMT -5
Vince's funding ECW was for several reasons, but I doubt owning the name and library after it was all over was on anyone's mind at the time. It was a different world and Vince wasn't thinking in those terms yet. I believe it was Paul E.’s dad, Acclaim and WWE who were owed the most money when ECW folded. I thought Acclaim owed ECW money from the video games they produced (they're the ones who made those knock off warzone games right?) How the hell do you get an endorsement deal like that and end up OWING money?! |
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Post by cjh on Jul 25, 2018 7:15:13 GMT -5
I thought Acclaim owed ECW money from the video games they produced (they're the ones who made those knock off warzone games right?) How the hell do you get an endorsement deal like that and end up OWING money?! Heyman had sold them 15% of ECW. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 25, 2018 7:22:15 GMT -5
I thought Acclaim owed ECW money from the video games they produced (they're the ones who made those knock off warzone games right?) How the hell do you get an endorsement deal like that and end up OWING money?! Acclaim bought 10 or 15% of the company, and were owed money relating to that. At least, I believe that’s the story |
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jul 25, 2018 7:25:07 GMT -5
Heyman had sold them 15% of ECW. Oh all right, I remember hearing Heyman saying that they were owed money from video games sales and that would have kept them in business if they were actually paid. I'm starting to think this Paul Heyman guy is less than truthful |
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Post by wankah on Jul 25, 2018 8:24:39 GMT -5
Heyman had sold them 15% of ECW. Oh all right, I remember hearing Heyman saying that they were owed money from video games sales and that would have kept them in business if they were actually paid. I'm starting to think this Paul Heyman guy is less than truthful Think you might be on to something there with that last sentence. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 25, 2018 8:31:51 GMT -5
Oh all right, I remember hearing Heyman saying that they were owed money from video games sales and that would have kept them in business if they were actually paid. I'm starting to think this Paul Heyman guy is less than truthful Think you might be on to something there with that last sentence. Next you're gonna say that wrestling's not on the level. |
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Post by clifford on Jul 25, 2018 9:55:39 GMT -5
It's a good documentary, and has an all-time great quote from Heyman at the end of it, one I use for motivation in life to this day;
'You cannot achieve success without the risk of failure. And I learned a long time ago, you cannot achieve success, if you fear failure. If you're not afraid to fail, man, you have a chance to succeed. But you're never gonna get there unless you risk it, all the way. I'll risk failure. Sometimes, half the fun is failing. Learning from your mistakes, waking up the next morning, and saying 'Okay. Watch out. Here I come again. A little bit smarter, licking my wounds, and really not looking forward to getting my ass kicked the way I just did yesterday.' So now, I'm just a little more dangerous.'
Yeah it sounds a little 'self-help seminar' but it's stuck with me through all these years.
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