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Post by Peeetah on Sept 15, 2018 17:14:08 GMT -5
I have no idea how WhatCulture/Defiant is still going given the amount of expensive talent they used to ship in.
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Post by The Barber on Sept 16, 2018 1:22:01 GMT -5
ECW.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Sept 16, 2018 3:08:43 GMT -5
I would think the original run of MLW from 2002 to 2004 would count. They were using a ton of name talent on their shows. They even had Satoshi Kojima as their champion for a while. They were definitely spending a lot more money than they were making.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Sept 16, 2018 15:59:41 GMT -5
TNA lives up to this.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 16, 2018 16:22:53 GMT -5
I would think the original run of MLW from 2002 to 2004 would count. They were using a ton of name talent on their shows. They even had Satoshi Kojima as their champion for a while. They were definitely spending a lot more money than they were making. Been trying to figure out how it went down but I seem to recall that Court had a financial partner who out of the blue back out of it all. That left Court high and dry but being that they did have a TV deal much like today and same kind of format. However smarter with the roster using not very many big names They only have had a couple at a time per show and mostly been a lot like TNA with a roster. A lot of share talent. |
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 16, 2018 16:37:00 GMT -5
Does Wrestlecircus count? Sadly, it seems that this will be the case, and I'm not all that sure what could have been the cause. It could have been money issues, considering the indy talent they were bringing in for every show, but it legit seems like it was because Austin is just not a wrestling city. They had so many problems booking regular venues that it seems to have killed their ability to run shows in the city. The saddest part is, I swear they were the ones who started the trend of wrestling companies flocking to Twitch to run their shows and grow their fanbase, and they couldn't even grow past running out of Austin. They most definitely were the first high profile wrestling promotion to use Twitch as a platform like that, it's partially what got them so much buzz and made them look so much more ahead of a lot of indies. Heck, I thought it was a brilliant move on their part and had been wondering why promotions hadn't tapped into the Twitch market sooner. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 16:42:08 GMT -5
Sadly, it seems that this will be the case, and I'm not all that sure what could have been the cause. It could have been money issues, considering the indy talent they were bringing in for every show, but it legit seems like it was because Austin is just not a wrestling city. They had so many problems booking regular venues that it seems to have killed their ability to run shows in the city. The saddest part is, I swear they were the ones who started the trend of wrestling companies flocking to Twitch to run their shows and grow their fanbase, and they couldn't even grow past running out of Austin. They most definitely were the first high profile wrestling promotion to use Twitch as a platform like that, it's partially what got them so much buzz and made them look so much more ahead of a lot of indies. Heck, I thought it was a brilliant move on their part and had been wondering why promotions hadn't tapped into the Twitch market sooner. Wasn't Twitch stingy about non-video game content until shortly before Wrestlecircus started using it? |
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 16, 2018 17:38:04 GMT -5
They most definitely were the first high profile wrestling promotion to use Twitch as a platform like that, it's partially what got them so much buzz and made them look so much more ahead of a lot of indies. Heck, I thought it was a brilliant move on their part and had been wondering why promotions hadn't tapped into the Twitch market sooner. Wasn't Twitch stingy about non-video game content until shortly before Wrestlecircus started using it? I think they were, but then the IRL thing started up and it got them a tom more viewers and subscription numbers, and they started opening up things to other media outlets. I'm not positive on that, but that's how I saw it. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Sept 16, 2018 17:46:01 GMT -5
I would argue that ECW actually grew at a pretty solid pace, and the audience it had grown stayed with it pretty much until the end. The problem wasn't that the promotion tried to grow too big too fast, but that the guy at the wheel didn't know the smartest places to put the money he was making. |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 16, 2018 21:19:57 GMT -5
That all-women's GLOW like promotion Wrestlelicious that was started by a guy that won the lottery and Jimmy Hart. I think it actually ran for a season on some super obscure satellite channel. The owner was a money-mark that got played by Hart like a fiddle. |
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Post by edtheripper on Sept 16, 2018 22:00:52 GMT -5
There is a company based out of Providence that has been trying to fill the gap and take over where Beyond Wrestling left off when they stopped running Fete Music. Right out of the gate at the very first show, you could tell that they were really trying to start big. Guys like Tommy Dreamer and Teddy Hart were booked. They aped the Beyond aesthetic with fans standing at ringside and even went so far as to have the family of one of the guys involved make all of the concessions. They thought they were going to get all of the Beyond fans and lure in newbies with guys like Hart, Dreamer, and eventually PCO. Instead, all they are doing is running the building with very small crowds and hemorrhaging money.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 16, 2018 22:47:10 GMT -5
XPW kind of falls into this. Yeah Rob Black is scum as a person, he did try to grow XPW by moving them to Philly. Long story short it was a disaster that pissed off local fans, other promoters and wrestlers. A lot of scummy tactics went into this, but after some of the stunts pulled in Philly, promoters in Pittsburgh them not to even bother running future scheduled shows in the Steel City. Then of course the whole Supreme Court issue happened but that's another story.
I'm trying to remember the company, but I vaguely remember back in the early 2000's seeing an indy company based in the Philly area that was hyping up a show at the Spectrum, but I don't remember if it happened or not. I want to say it was called Pro Wrestling Impact
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Post by theresalwaysanegon on Sept 18, 2018 12:47:52 GMT -5
CHIKARA did the exact opposite by pretending to go out of business when the company was growing at a steady pace.
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Post by 67 more on Sept 18, 2018 13:05:31 GMT -5
Lucha Forever here in the UK. Brought in guys like Ricochet, Callahan, Ospreay, British Strong Style, Spud. Lasted about nine months in total.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -5
Lucha Forever here in the UK. Brought in guys like Ricochet, Callahan, Ospreay, British Strong Style, Spud. Lasted about nine months in total. Loads of UK companies fall into this. 1PW and all its various spinoffs when Carny McGhee lost his ass and went missing only to reappear, rinse and repeat. FWA did too, Alex Shane getting ahead of himself. |
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