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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 17, 2021 14:00:06 GMT -5
And now I remember she was an MMA fighter. Without going deep, they have very inflammatory opinions sometimes (look up Ronda, for instance)
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 17, 2021 14:24:27 GMT -5
Isn't this the second time he picked on that particular journalist as well? Not a great look, dude. Ariel used to work for Fox, he broke a story about Brock’s UFC 200 return 2 hours before UFC was gonna announce it. Dana asked him not to report the story, but Ariel did anyways. Dana, as UFC was with Fox at the time, contacted Fox Sports and had Ariel fired and then proceed to go off on a viscous rant about him later. Dana hates Ariel. He’s had his press credentials revoked a few times, and Ariel generally works for major MMA and sports outlets. Also, that story is the reason I never trusted Satin when he was working for Fox. He either towed the WWE line, or he was gone. Both him and Vince McMahon would be familiar with the Ariel story Now I am not defending Dana or his actions but that was a dick move by Ariel. I mean youre not a journalist breaking the presidents affair or anything. Keep the damn secret and let the man have his big moment. At the most trade keeping the secret for an exclusive interview or something.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 17, 2021 14:43:50 GMT -5
Ariel doesn't owe Dana shit. He's an actual journalist who had a big story to break and he did.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 17, 2021 14:46:47 GMT -5
Ariel used to work for Fox, he broke a story about Brock’s UFC 200 return 2 hours before UFC was gonna announce it. Dana asked him not to report the story, but Ariel did anyways. Dana, as UFC was with Fox at the time, contacted Fox Sports and had Ariel fired and then proceed to go off on a viscous rant about him later. Dana hates Ariel. He’s had his press credentials revoked a few times, and Ariel generally works for major MMA and sports outlets. Also, that story is the reason I never trusted Satin when he was working for Fox. He either towed the WWE line, or he was gone. Both him and Vince McMahon would be familiar with the Ariel story Now I am not defending Dana or his actions but that was a dick move by Ariel. I mean youre not a journalist breaking the presidents affair or anything. Keep the damn secret and let the man have his big moment. At the most trade keeping the secret for an exclusive interview or something. Hi there - PR person here. If Ariel was under what we call a press embargo, that's one thing. Breaking an embargo after you've agreed to it is not cool. What happened here was Ariel got the story on his own, Dana called and asked him to hold it - which is fully in Dana's rights. It's also fully in Ariel's rights to do what he did - which is his job - report the news. Fair play. It's happened to me and while folks get angry, it's how it goes.
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Post by eJm on Feb 17, 2021 14:47:52 GMT -5
Ariel doesn't owe Dana shit. He's an actual journalist who had a big story to break and he did. Pretty much. Like, I get the argument about not wanting to be a spoiler but it’s like the Edge stuff from the Rumble last year. If you have a story like that and there’s no significant harm in publishing it, you publish it. And it’s not like that made any significant difference just like the Brock story did. EDIT: Like OneDARKFlame says too, if he was under embargo then sure, cool, be mad but then Dana could sue for breaching it at worst and at best, he loses access because who wants to hire someone who breaks embargos? I say this as someone who has written reviews under embargo in the past.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 17, 2021 14:52:53 GMT -5
Now I am not defending Dana or his actions but that was a dick move by Ariel. I mean youre not a journalist breaking the presidents affair or anything. Keep the damn secret and let the man have his big moment. At the most trade keeping the secret for an exclusive interview or something. Hi there - PR person here. If Ariel was under what we call a press embargo, that's one thing. Breaking an embargo after you've agreed to it is not cool. What happened here was Ariel got the story on his own, Dana called and asked him to hold it - which is fully in Dana's rights. It's also fully in Ariel's rights to do what he did - which is his job - report the news. Fair play. It's happened to me and while folks get angry, it's how it goes. And if we are being honest, not like Dana would do Ariel any favors Ariel did his job and if Dana got his draws in a ruffle over this, what happens when Ariel starts breaking out bigger news like drug failures and all that over stuff Someone needs to hold Dana accountable and he is that guy
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 17, 2021 14:54:46 GMT -5
Hi there - PR person here. If Ariel was under what we call a press embargo, that's one thing. Breaking an embargo after you've agreed to it is not cool. What happened here was Ariel got the story on his own, Dana called and asked him to hold it - which is fully in Dana's rights. It's also fully in Ariel's rights to do what he did - which is his job - report the news. Fair play. It's happened to me and while folks get angry, it's how it goes. And if we are being honest, not like Dana would do Ariel any favors Ariel did his job and if Dana got his draws in a ruffle over this, what happens when Ariel starts breaking out bigger news like drug failures and all that over stuff Someone needs to hold Dana accountable and he is that guy Yeah. Not like they had a great relationship either way. Ariel did what he needed to do.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 17, 2021 15:05:26 GMT -5
Not going to go deep, but someone called attention to something some Disney producer, Jack I think his name was, posted. Look it up if you must.
I am not defending either, mind you. That's just how I am in general with [FAN-unfriendly topic]. Some days I'd rather leave than choose sides, honestly.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 17, 2021 15:13:44 GMT -5
I liked it better when we were just posting about Gina Carano than Dana White.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 17, 2021 15:32:07 GMT -5
Now I am not defending Dana or his actions but that was a dick move by Ariel. I mean youre not a journalist breaking the presidents affair or anything. Keep the damn secret and let the man have his big moment. At the most trade keeping the secret for an exclusive interview or something. Hi there - PR person here. If Ariel was under what we call a press embargo, that's one thing. Breaking an embargo after you've agreed to it is not cool. What happened here was Ariel got the story on his own, Dana called and asked him to hold it - which is fully in Dana's rights. It's also fully in Ariel's rights to do what he did - which is his job - report the news. Fair play. It's happened to me and while folks get angry, it's how it goes. I agree Ariel was in his rights. And Dana was way out of line going after Ariel the way he did. Still think its a dick move to break the story when you are asked not to so as not to spoil the surprise. Again its not like you are breaking some huge story. Its a fighter coming back. Big effin deal. Let Dana have his moment. So dick move by Ariel, IMO. Beyond dick move by Dana, in everyones opinion I would think.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 17, 2021 15:56:05 GMT -5
Not going to go deep, but someone called attention to something some Disney producer, Jack I think his name was, posted. Look it up if you must. I am not defending either, mind you. That's just how I am in general with [FAN-unfriendly topic]. Some days I'd rather leave than choose sides, honestly. As utterly vile as that tweet was, the producer in question was severely reprimanded and posted a public apology. People bringing it up now, two years later, seem to be happy to overlook that fact as well as ignoring Carano quadrupling down after her first warning.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 17, 2021 16:02:14 GMT -5
Hi there - PR person here. If Ariel was under what we call a press embargo, that's one thing. Breaking an embargo after you've agreed to it is not cool. What happened here was Ariel got the story on his own, Dana called and asked him to hold it - which is fully in Dana's rights. It's also fully in Ariel's rights to do what he did - which is his job - report the news. Fair play. It's happened to me and while folks get angry, it's how it goes. I agree Ariel was in his rights. And Dana was way out of line going after Ariel the way he did. Still think its a dick move to break the story when you are asked not to so as not to spoil the surprise. Again its not like you are breaking some huge story. Its a fighter coming back. Big effin deal. Let Dana have his moment. So dick move by Ariel, IMO. Beyond dick move by Dana, in everyones opinion I would think. His job is to break news and be objective about the sport of MMA. If it leaked that he DID hold the news, people would be saying that Ariel was a UFC puppet. I know we disagree and that's cool, but I think in this particular instance it would have been worse for Ariel if he DID hold it.
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Post by eJm on Feb 17, 2021 16:10:23 GMT -5
I agree Ariel was in his rights. And Dana was way out of line going after Ariel the way he did. Still think its a dick move to break the story when you are asked not to so as not to spoil the surprise. Again its not like you are breaking some huge story. Its a fighter coming back. Big effin deal. Let Dana have his moment. So dick move by Ariel, IMO. Beyond dick move by Dana, in everyones opinion I would think. His job is to break news and be objective about the sport of MMA. If it leaked that he DID hold the news, people would be saying that Ariel was a UFC puppet. I know we disagree and that's cool, but I think in this particular instance it would have been worse for Ariel if he DID hold it. Pretty much so, yeah. To go back on topic a bit, it’d be like someone revealing what they heard about a new Marvel series or a twist in the upcoming Star Wars show. If they were asked to not leak that, yeah, don’t risk your job with that. If you got it from a source, then you should use your judgment depending on the story but the likelihood is publishing it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 17, 2021 16:32:34 GMT -5
Not going to go deep, but someone called attention to something some Disney producer, Jack I think his name was, posted. Look it up if you must. I am not defending either, mind you. That's just how I am in general with [FAN-unfriendly topic]. Some days I'd rather leave than choose sides, honestly. As utterly vile as that tweet was, the producer in question was severely reprimanded and posted a public apology. People bringing it up now, two years later, seem to be happy to overlook that fact as well as ignoring Carano quadrupling down after her first warning. And Carano wasn't even technically fired. Her contract was up and Disney decided not to renew it or ink a new one. She fulfilled the terms of her employment.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 17, 2021 17:51:04 GMT -5
I liked it better when we were just posting about Gina Carano than Dana White. Gina Carano is poopie.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 18, 2021 0:07:32 GMT -5
Dana White is probably the one guy in sports who is even more of a carny than Vince McMahon. I'm hoping you're putting Dan Snyder on a whole other level, like scum of the f***ing Earth level.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 20, 2021 2:39:05 GMT -5
Um Yeah This
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 20, 2021 4:34:23 GMT -5
Suddenly Gina isn't too enthusiastic about the free market.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 20, 2021 12:14:52 GMT -5
Suddenly Gina isn't too enthusiastic about the free market. They love the free market until the free market cuts them loose for being more trouble than they're worth. Then they whine about cancel culture and snowflakes.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 20, 2021 16:11:36 GMT -5
Suddenly Gina isn't too enthusiastic about the free market. I mean she got her taste of fame by being cast as a supporting character on a show that probably wasn’t expected to be anywhere near as huge as it’s been.
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