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Post by ryanjoste on Oct 13, 2018 16:50:54 GMT -5
What? In the grand scheme of this entire saga, it is irrelevant. If she was making money off of this deal whether it be through WWE, being paid directly, or it was affecting her job, THEN you would have a point. It isn't doing any of those. As I said before, if she were still CEO of WWE, these same people going after how now wouldn't be bringing her up AT ALL. bud she's married to Vince. He makes money, they both make money. He's making money from the Saudi shows, so she is too She isn't making any money on this and whatever money Vince gets he gets whether they have this show or not. The money made on this show gets invested right back into the company. She isn't seeing a single dime out of this.
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Post by City Duck on Oct 13, 2018 16:51:24 GMT -5
She isn't a big part of the story. People are trying to make her a big part for their own personal gain. She has absolutely zero connection to WWE other than being married to the Chairman and an almost irrelevant amount of stock. Since the stock price will not be directly affected regardless of what happens with the show, she is not benefiting from the show at all. bruh no no i think this calls for a slight bit more confusion
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Post by bearned on Oct 13, 2018 16:52:57 GMT -5
It probably should be cancelled and the deal ripped up. Sure it’s a ridiculous amount of money but getting into bed with that regime was never going to end well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 16:53:16 GMT -5
I mean having an elected US official in Kane work the main event of your big event is a PR nightmare as well, whatever the case I am definitely canceling my subscription this is gross. Kane apparently said the "thoughts and prayers" thing as well. This whole thing is a shitshow.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 13, 2018 16:59:00 GMT -5
What? In the grand scheme of this entire saga, it is irrelevant. If she was making money off of this deal whether it be through WWE, being paid directly, or it was affecting her job, THEN you would have a point. It isn't doing any of those. As I said before, if she were still CEO of WWE, these same people going after how now wouldn't be bringing her up AT ALL.
Because she'd be a private citizen, and not a Cabinet-level officer in the US government. People in public office are held to a different standard than private citizens, this isn't exactly breaking news. The idea that Linda McMahon doesn't have an interest in the company that her family created, has multiple members on the board of directors, and holds controlling interest in is the most absurd thing I've ever seen on this board, and I'm including the decade-long debate on the sexual preferences of a 90s child cartoon character.
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Post by Perd on Oct 13, 2018 17:02:46 GMT -5
Yeah, again, the murder of a journalist, is a game changer. It cannot be shrugged off. I’m not going to pretend that WWE doesn’t already have a relation with the House of Saudi. And I’m not going to pretend that they haven’t already held a show, there. But what just happened is some Nazi stuff. And your damn right there’s added spotlight. Simply put, this show should not happen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:09:19 GMT -5
i wonder if they have an out clause
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 13, 2018 17:12:04 GMT -5
What? In the grand scheme of this entire saga, it is irrelevant. If she was making money off of this deal whether it be through WWE, being paid directly, or it was affecting her job, THEN you would have a point. It isn't doing any of those. As I said before, if she were still CEO of WWE, these same people going after how now wouldn't be bringing her up AT ALL.
Because she'd be a private citizen, and not a Cabinet-level officer in the US government. People in public office are held to a different standard than private citizens, this isn't exactly breaking news. The idea that Linda McMahon doesn't have an interest in the company that her family created, has multiple members on the board of directors, and holds controlling interest in is the most absurd thing I've ever seen on this board, and I'm including the decade-long debate on the sexual preference of a 90s child cartoon character. Plus, as seen before, folks will always use Linda's connection to the family business as a way to call her out on any BS (it's why Stand Up For WWE was apparently created in the first place).
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 13, 2018 17:14:42 GMT -5
I really, really hope important roster members start refusing to go. Off the top of my head, you've got Roman, Brock, AJ, Bryan, Miz, and Kofi who all have young kids. There is no good goddamn reason for them to go into a country where an American citizen was just murdered for his personal beliefs. I myself have a 7 year old, and I would NEVER go over there even if it meant being fired. You can get another job. Your kids can't just get a new dad.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 13, 2018 17:15:52 GMT -5
Because she'd be a private citizen, and not a Cabinet-level officer in the US government. People in public office are held to a different standard than private citizens, this isn't exactly breaking news. The idea that Linda McMahon doesn't have an interest in the company that her family created, has multiple members on the board of directors, and holds controlling interest in is the most absurd thing I've ever seen on this board, and I'm including the decade-long debate on the sexual preference of a 90s child cartoon character. Plus, as seen before, folks will always use Linda's connection to the family business as a way to call her out on any BS (it's why Stand Up For WWE was apparently created in the first place). Creating the world's most transparent and ineffective PR campaign as a reaction to political pressure, both legitimate and not, instead of actually addressing the critiques is the most Vince McMahon thing that I could think of.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:19:34 GMT -5
I really, really hope important roster members start refusing to go. Off the top of my head, you've got Roman, Brock, AJ, Bryan, Miz, and Kofi who all have young kids. There is no good goddamn reason for them to go into a country where an American citizen was just murdered for his personal beliefs. I myself have a 7 year old, and I would NEVER go over there even if it meant being fired. You can get another job. Your kids can't just get a new dad. I wanna believe that if WWE goes through with this and continues going to Saudi that there are gonna be people that will have enough back bone to stand up and stop working for this disgusting company again I wanna believe that at some point the money just aint f***ing worth it and this should be that tipping point.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 13, 2018 17:20:39 GMT -5
I really, really hope important roster members start refusing to go. Off the top of my head, you've got Roman, Brock, AJ, Bryan, Miz, and Kofi who all have young kids. There is no good goddamn reason for them to go into a country where an American citizen was just murdered for his personal beliefs. I myself have a 7 year old, and I would NEVER go over there even if it meant being fired. You can get another job. Your kids can't just get a new dad. If someone like Roman Reigns or AJ Styles refused to head to Crown Jewel, it'll be interesting to see how WWE management reacts to big names not wanting to go to Riyadh.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 13, 2018 17:27:05 GMT -5
I really, really hope important roster members start refusing to go. Off the top of my head, you've got Roman, Brock, AJ, Bryan, Miz, and Kofi who all have young kids. There is no good goddamn reason for them to go into a country where an American citizen was just murdered for his personal beliefs. I myself have a 7 year old, and I would NEVER go over there even if it meant being fired. You can get another job. Your kids can't just get a new dad. I wanna believe that if WWE goes through with this and continues going to Saudi that there are gonna be people that will have enough back bone to stand up and stop working for this disgusting company again I wanna believe that at some point the money just aint f***ing worth it and this should be that tipping point. Right. Especially considering how easy it would be for their top guys to work anywhere. AJ Styles and Roman Reigns aren't going broke if they quit today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:50:14 GMT -5
Shoutout to everyone in this thread for keeping it civil.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 13, 2018 17:58:02 GMT -5
Shoutout to everyone in this thread for keeping it civil. I'm gonna go and change that real quick: I can't wait for Brock to win back the Universal Title and not show his face until after his UFC fight
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 13, 2018 17:59:45 GMT -5
Shoutout to everyone in this thread for keeping it civil. I'm gonna go and change that real quick: I can't wait for Brock to win back the Universal Title and not show his face until after his UFC fight Holy balls, I don't even like Roman but I'd hate to see him drop the belt. He needs a proper run with the thing if he's ever to be the company ace.
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Post by KofiMania on Oct 13, 2018 18:08:24 GMT -5
Putting a moral compass on business decisions is a tough road to navigate. Digging in to American businesses and the practices of the countries they do business with is a slippery road if you go down that path. WWE may a little different just in the sense that they’re doing a live event there, rather than just selling their goods or making their goods in such countries. They're running state-funded propaganda on their programming. Marked difference between doing business with someone, and pushing their political agenda. Right, and if it turns out that the Saudi government had something to do with the murder, I assume those types of videos wouldn’t be shown anymore.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Oct 13, 2018 18:10:21 GMT -5
Just rename the event “Backlash”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 18:11:51 GMT -5
They're running state-funded propaganda on their programming. Marked difference between doing business with someone, and pushing their political agenda. Right, and if it turns out that the Saudi government had something to do with the murder, I assume those types of videos wouldn’t be shown anymore. I don’t know how the deal would work for the Saudi’s without those videos, that’s pretty much the whole point of them reaching out to these Western acts, to push Saudi Arabia as a future tourist destination, it’s not for the Saudi citizens, it’s for the Kingdom’s bank account.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 13, 2018 18:14:14 GMT -5
They're running state-funded propaganda on their programming. Marked difference between doing business with someone, and pushing their political agenda. Right, and if it turns out that the Saudi government had something to do with the murder, I assume those types of videos wouldn’t be shown anymore. The videos are the reason why the shows are a thing in the first place. The whole deal is advertising for the KSA's ongoing "re-branding" effort with the change in leadership.
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