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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 16, 2018 0:36:41 GMT -5
Travel bans are only for people that can't afford to go around the ban. For the record, this would be exceptionally expensive to go around. US' longtime travel bans, for example, on North Korea and (at one time) Cuba meant just one connecting flight through Canada. Saudi Arabia has banned all Canadian flights, so let's say the company goes through Mexico instead, that's at least $400 extra per person. Not to mention if you went to Cuba when the embargo was up... you could still get in serious trouble when you got back to the states. So... yeah... a company filming a show in a place that has a travel ban on? would not end well.
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 16, 2018 0:40:20 GMT -5
Isn't WWE being a public company kind of a joke because Vince and family have controlling interest in the company anyway?
So I don't think they really have to answer to any shareholders, though I can't imagine a big selloff being best for business. Granted, breaking a 10+ year contract isn't great for business either, but like I said earlier, WWE knew what they were getting into with this deal. Their greed and shortsightedness have landed them in this situation where they're damned if they do and damned if they don't, and I can't say I really have any sympathy for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 0:40:46 GMT -5
The obvious solution here is to repurpose the show into a screwball comedy named WWE Clown School.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 16, 2018 0:43:10 GMT -5
The obvious solution here is to repurpose the show into a screwball comedy named WWE Clown School. I'm just picturing The Shield doing the loop-the-loop together on the little bicycle, squabbling over who gets to eat the bicycle at the end.
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 16, 2018 0:44:40 GMT -5
The obvious solution here is to repurpose the show into a screwball comedy named WWE Clown School. WWE invests in animitronics and we can have WWE Country Bear Jamboree with Heath Slater.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 16, 2018 0:46:12 GMT -5
Isn't WWE being a public company kind of a joke because Vince and family have controlling interest in the company anyway? So I don't think they really have to answer to any shareholders, though I can't imagine a big selloff being best for business. Granted, breaking a 10+ year contract isn't great for business either, but like I said earlier, WWE knew what they were getting into with this deal. Their greed and shortsightedness have landed them in this situation where they're damned if they do and damned if they don't, and I can't say I really have any sympathy for them. That's how most companies are. 1 or 2 people (or a family) own majority stock and can outvote most others. but Vince still has to answer to them... there are many ways around a majority vote like that... one of which is just dumping your stock which can cause a massive drop in price as the stock traders see a large influx of people dumping they tend to immediately sell.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 16, 2018 0:46:35 GMT -5
For the record, this would be exceptionally expensive to go around. US' longtime travel bans, for example, on North Korea and (at one time) Cuba meant just one connecting flight through Canada. Saudi Arabia has banned all Canadian flights, so let's say the company goes through Mexico instead, that's at least $400 extra per person. Not to mention if you went to Cuba when the embargo was up... you could still get in serious trouble when you got back to the states. So... yeah... a company filming a show in a place that has a travel ban on? would not end well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bobby Fischer's exile for the last decade or so of his life due to violating a travel ban when he went to Yugoslavia (?) for his rematch with Boris Spassky in 1992?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 16, 2018 0:49:23 GMT -5
Not to mention if you went to Cuba when the embargo was up... you could still get in serious trouble when you got back to the states. So... yeah... a company filming a show in a place that has a travel ban on? would not end well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bobby Fischer's exile for the last decade or so of his life due to violating a travel ban when he went to Yugoslavia (?) for his rematch with Boris Spassky in 1992? This is not a post I ever expected I was going to see on f***ing FAN but. Yes.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 16, 2018 0:52:08 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bobby Fischer's exile for the last decade or so of his life due to violating a travel ban when he went to Yugoslavia (?) for his rematch with Boris Spassky in 1992? This is not a post I ever expected I was going to see on f***ing FAN but. Yes. Sorry, I used to be a chess buff. Not a very good one, of course.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 16, 2018 0:55:28 GMT -5
I laughed my ass off at "Prince Muhammad is an interesting and smart person." That sounds straight out of Just Bring It. PRINCE MUHAMMAD has a great NON MURDEROUS REGIME
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 16, 2018 1:11:32 GMT -5
This is not a post I ever expected I was going to see on f***ing FAN but. Yes. Sorry, I used to be a chess buff. Not a very good one, of course. Oh no dude don't apologize, I'm just glad someone else is posting their niche-ass references in a thread for a change.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Oct 16, 2018 1:14:38 GMT -5
The only way WWE pulls out of this show is if there’s a travel ban. A million people could cancel their network subscriptions. WWE made 60 mil from the GRR show. They won’t care. WWE made 14.1 mil from Mania earlier this year. Their biggest show of the year doesn’t even come close to what they made in Saudi Arabia. The outrage on social media is surprisingly low compared to the Snickers / Moolah battle royal controversy. I saw ten minutes of Raw tonight. Were there chants of “You sold out” or “Cancel Crown Jewel”? I doubt it. As messed up as this situation is not enough people care to do anything about it.
WWE wants that money so badly that they’ll just keep promoting the show. They want you to know the show is going to happen. They’ll work hard, collect their millions and go home. People will bring this incident up from time to time, just like they do when they talk about the women not being able to work there but they’ll keep going back. I’m not siding with WWE here but I don’t have 60 mil and possibly a whole lot more on the line here either.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 16, 2018 1:51:14 GMT -5
The obvious solution here is to repurpose the show into a screwball comedy named WWE Clown School. I have nothing to do with this.
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Post by msc on Oct 16, 2018 2:18:33 GMT -5
Interestingly, when canceling the Network there, the "why are you leaving?" bit is now gone for the first time since launch...
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 16, 2018 2:32:53 GMT -5
WWE is looking really tonedeaf tonight. But then, they knew who they were getting in bed with when they made this deal. How many damn times did they mention that something was huge news, and making headlines all over the world? Like, dude, don't be saying that shit while this controversy is going on.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 16, 2018 4:05:47 GMT -5
Interestingly, when canceling the Network there, the "why are you leaving?" bit is now gone for the first time since launch... This must be a very recent change because that part was there hours ago when I cancelled.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Oct 16, 2018 4:07:41 GMT -5
I haven't seen any Raw yet, I assume they still mentioned it as normal?
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Post by chazraps on Oct 16, 2018 4:10:01 GMT -5
I haven't seen any Raw yet, I assume they still mentioned it as normal? The words "Saudi Arabia" - to the best of my hearing ability, were not heard at any time during the broadcast. Graves made one joke at the start of the Balor-Mahal match that "it's time we address the big elephant in the room, the worldwide news everyone is talking about" before mentioning that the Singh Brothers were reunited at ringside. I usually like Graves, but this struck me as pretty tonedeaf.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Oct 16, 2018 4:11:03 GMT -5
I haven't seen any Raw yet, I assume they still mentioned it as normal? The words "Saudi Arabia" - to the best of my hearing ability, were not heard at any time during the broadcast. Graves made one joke at the start of the Balor-Mahal match that "it's time we address the big elephant in the room, the worldwide news everyone is talking about" before mentioning that the Singh Brothers were reunited at ringside. I usually like Graves, but this struck me as pretty tonedeaf. yeah that's not funny and awful timing to be making that crack
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 16, 2018 5:23:22 GMT -5
I haven't seen any Raw yet, I assume they still mentioned it as normal? The words "Saudi Arabia" - to the best of my hearing ability, were not heard at any time during the broadcast. Graves made one joke at the start of the Balor-Mahal match that "it's time we address the big elephant in the room, the worldwide news everyone is talking about" before mentioning that the Singh Brothers were reunited at ringside. I usually like Graves, but this struck me as pretty tonedeaf. They also said the Bellas turning on Ronda was the big headline news in WWE that had the whole world talking.
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