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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jan 1, 2019 22:42:29 GMT -5
Tuesday makes the most sense. With Smackdown moving to Fridays in the fall, they can somewhat fill that gap.
I'm wondering what the Bucks and Cody are doing Mania weekend. I am about to jump on some ROH/NJPW secondary market tickets and want to see what they'll be up to.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 1, 2019 23:21:01 GMT -5
I still think those guys should show up for an 8 man tag at MSG if nothing else, just as a make good to fans who spent money hoping to see the various Elite guys on that card. I have no idea what they will do on that card but the debate about which title will main event the Garden (ROH vs. IWGP) is laughably stupid. I mean we could have Lethal vs. Taven as the main event or some combo of Omega/Tanahashi/Okada. No offense to those ROH guys but they should be asking for Tanahashi, Okada, and Omega's autographs.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 1, 2019 23:41:01 GMT -5
There's already a thread in WWE Current about "Who jumps first?" I think a key thing they need to do when starting up is NOT take a glut of guys from WWE/NXT. By the second promo from some cast-off midcarder talking about how they never got a shot, you've instantly branded yourself as TNA 2.0 I hope if they do get some castoffs, it'll be more of a Jamie Noble in ROH situation, where he was trying to be someone other than what WWE fans would have known him for. If he had bitter promos about it, I can't recall, felt like he just showed up to wrestle and be his best self. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 23:47:36 GMT -5
If this company gets a TV deal, can we finally replace the TNA section on this board? TNA is smaller than ROH , New Japan, and now a 3rd company. It's over Unfortunately thats true and if so please just archive it as because it will be insanely interesting looking back considering they and ROH as well have had a longer run then WCW itself did |
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Post by benstudd on Jan 1, 2019 23:58:19 GMT -5
Could it be competition coming up?
You know they say blood relation and genetics doesn't really exist(I mean great rulers' children never had their drive or leadership qualities) but when you see Jeff Jarrett making a good run running a company after his dad did the same in his own territory and now Cody following in Dusty's footsteps, it cannot be coincidence. And Cody's importance to AEW wrestling might be even greater than Dusty was to the NWA. (then again NWA was a lot bigger than AEW at this stage). Anyway it is pretty amazing to see and his dad must be watching from above.
Something I am hoping is that if they get a TV deal that they try to get the guys that the WWE has sitting in development doing nothing. Like Chris Hero and Dijak.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 2, 2019 0:49:50 GMT -5
Is Dustin still under contract with WWE? If not, I could see him joining his brother in AEW as a booker or an agent.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 2, 2019 1:12:25 GMT -5
There's already a thread in WWE Current about "Who jumps first?" I think a key thing they need to do when starting up is NOT take a glut of guys from WWE/NXT. By the second promo from some cast-off midcarder talking about how they never got a shot, you've instantly branded yourself as TNA 2.0 I hope if they do get some castoffs, it'll be more of a Jamie Noble in ROH situation, where he was trying to be someone other than what WWE fans would have known him for. If he had bitter promos about it, I can't recall, felt like he just showed up to wrestle and be his best self. The thing they can do to set themselves apart is just to offer an innovative, exciting product that people want to see. They can do this with getting WWE/NXT talent without necessarily riding on WWE's coattails like TNA once did. And doing shows with New Japan will help a lot, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 1:50:36 GMT -5
Hope they sign Neville, missed seeing him on TV. Cody's close to some of the 'lost generation' of ex WWE talent, Ryback, Barrett ect, not exactly gamechangers but could do worse than a bit of name recognition to pad out the midcard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 2:52:47 GMT -5
I feel kind of bad for Kenny; one would imagine this isn't the easiest decision for him to make. If he joins the crew under an AEW contract, one would imagine he can't stick around in New Japan, right? As a Japanese citizen who's been passionately working the puro scene for so many years, he probably feels a bit conflicted beyond just the money.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 2, 2019 4:42:16 GMT -5
I feel kind of bad for Kenny; one would imagine this isn't the easiest decision for him to make. If he joins the crew under an AEW contract, one would imagine he can't stick around in New Japan, right? As a Japanese citizen who's been passionately working the puro scene for so many years, he probably feels a bit conflicted beyond just the money. It depends. If AEW takes over the NJPW woking relationship from ROH which can happen by having a big TV deal and money, I know that hard on the ROH side and I liked ROH for years. If they have a working relationship than he can do both and have run like TNA did in the mid to later 00's. For a while they saw these rumors every time his contract comes up if he would be WWE bound, honestly a lot of he does in ring, doesn't fit the WWE. Someone posted about the "lost Generation" I don't or at less hope that doesn't happen. Guys like Ryback have no value. If top indies don't want anything to do with him and he can only get small 50 of less fed to book him once in a while. Why pay the guy that much money for nothing. Most fans at this point see Ryback and go "meh". Ex WWE guys or getting someone to jump ship are fine if they have real value but they need to use as few as possible. Creating new faces is what fans want more, that why in the long run WCW guy stale. Thats why TNA got there labels for so many years. Like I said earlier, AEW needs to create there own ID, and not end up getting WWE light or ext labels like I said in my last post. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2019 5:47:06 GMT -5
I think regardless of what you think of him as a talent (though I consider myself a huge fan) you have to respect how Cody keeps pushing himself further. He could've easily spent the past couple of years just coasting in WWE and getting paid to spin his wheels, but he has too much drive and too much creativity to settle for that. It's very commendable. Yeah, I know Cody hasn't set the world on fire with his work, but the man has pushed for a lot of changes and risks and progress, helped light a fire under The Bucks and really start driving people to do better. The man has so much passion in him to want to succeed, carve his own path, and make more people do the same. Dude turned down complacency and has been working to get everyone else to stop being complacent too, that alone should be something people commend instead of ripping on for him just associating with better workers than he is. No way The Bucks would be walking away from Japan and ROH for this endeavor without him there to push them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 5:49:37 GMT -5
I think he'll wait a year to see how it pans out and I can't see him lacing up the boots again but if all goes well it might get Punk off the couch in a commentary role.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2019 7:05:40 GMT -5
I think regardless of what you think of him as a talent (though I consider myself a huge fan) you have to respect how Cody keeps pushing himself further. He could've easily spent the past couple of years just coasting in WWE and getting paid to spin his wheels, but he has too much drive and too much creativity to settle for that. It's very commendable. Yeah, I know Cody hasn't set the world on fire with his work, but the man has pushed for a lot of changes and risks and progress, helped light a fire under The Bucks and really start driving people to do better. The man has so much passion in him to want to succeed, carve his own path, and make more people do the same. Dude turned down complacency and has been working to get everyone else to stop being complacent too, that alone should be something people commend instead of ripping on for him just associating with better workers than he is. No way The Bucks would be walking away from Japan and ROH for this endeavor without him there to push them. I'll do you one better. He didn't just ignite a fire under the Bucks, he helped give the Bullet Club their teeth back. Before he joined, the Bullet Club was, frankly, in a slump. Adam Cole had been a creative dead-end for the group, and they were, frankly, getting a bit lame. It was comically obvious that the only stable leader that was more disinterested in his faction would be Okada, and CHAOS had the excuse of being more of a stable in the sports sense of the word than a band of brothers. Omega had, frankly, had trouble being taken seriously as the heir to AJ, since yeah, big shoes to fill, but he'd put in a lot of effort and had grown quite a bit. Had a string of amazing matches, too. Lost any that mattered, but hey, the matches were good! Omega was in considerable danger of crossing into Dolph Ziggler territory, with no real prizes to cement his rule. Enter Cody, who secured the Ring of Honor championship, quickly set about sowing discord, calling into question A. Omega's ability to get it done, and B. his commitment to looking out for the others. Omega would secure the US title and defeated the emboldened Tama Tonga, who had been buying into Cody's murmurs so he managed to protect his rule, at least, for the time being. The rest, we all know by now. If anyone was unsatisfied with the payoff, or felt it dragged too long, I get it, even if I don't agree. But I think it'd be difficult to dispute that Cody injected a badly needed relevance and intrigue into what had become a stagnant group. Obviously, Cody's spot could have been given to someone else by Gedo, but I don't think it'd have worked nearly as well. It needed to be an outsider, and it needed to be someone who could reasonably buy getting under the Elite's skin. Cody had every tool necessary for the job. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 2, 2019 7:10:52 GMT -5
To think of the butterfly effect moment that has lead to this... Like, this whole thing basically starts from "No, we want you keep playing this Stardust character until further notice".
Would Rhodes have stayed in WWE if he was allowed to revert back to playing himself? Would he still have left regardless? It's bloody interesting to think about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 7:33:38 GMT -5
To think of the butterfly effect moment that has lead to this... Like, this whole thing basically starts from "No, we want you keep playing this Stardust character until further notice". Would Rhodes have stayed in WWE if he was allowed to revert back to playing himself? Would he still have left regardless? It's bloody interesting to think about. I was literally thinking about this yesterday. They kept Cody performing as Stardust, and they didn't lock down the Young Bucks because they didn't shake Booker T's hand. It's crazy. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 2, 2019 8:01:33 GMT -5
I feel kind of bad for Kenny; one would imagine this isn't the easiest decision for him to make. If he joins the crew under an AEW contract, one would imagine he can't stick around in New Japan, right? As a Japanese citizen who's been passionately working the puro scene for so many years, he probably feels a bit conflicted beyond just the money. I don’t think he’s actually a Japanese citizen unless they made some special exception for him as a celebrity as some countries have done. I’ve researched the citizenship/dual citizenship requirements of countries a lot and the last time I checked you can only gain Japanese citizenship by birth as they do not allow naturalization. I don’t know much about Japanese residency requirements other than that. He may be a permanent resident or on a work visa. |
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 2, 2019 8:10:34 GMT -5
I feel kind of bad for Kenny; one would imagine this isn't the easiest decision for him to make. If he joins the crew under an AEW contract, one would imagine he can't stick around in New Japan, right? As a Japanese citizen who's been passionately working the puro scene for so many years, he probably feels a bit conflicted beyond just the money. I don’t think he’s actually a Japanese citizen unless they made some special exception for him as a celebrity as some countries have done. I’ve researched the citizenship/dual citizenship requirements of countries a lot and the last time I checked you can only gain Japanese citizenship by birth as they do not allow naturalization. I don’t know much about Japanese residency requirements other than that. He may be a permanent resident or on a work visa. I’m not sure about Kenny’s status but a foreigner can absolutely gain naturalized citizenship if they meet requirements. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 2, 2019 8:16:35 GMT -5
I don’t think he’s actually a Japanese citizen unless they made some special exception for him as a celebrity as some countries have done. I’ve researched the citizenship/dual citizenship requirements of countries a lot and the last time I checked you can only gain Japanese citizenship by birth as they do not allow naturalization. I don’t know much about Japanese residency requirements other than that. He may be a permanent resident or on a work visa. I’m not sure about Kenny’s status but a foreigner can absolutely gain naturalized citizenship if they meet requirements. Awe okay I see. Found this: www.immigrationattorney.jp/index.php?Japanese%20CitizenshipNot sure how accurate it is as it was the first thing that came up on Google. Dual citizenship is what they don’t allow according to it. So unless Kenny dropped his Canadian citizenship or the Japanese government made some kind of exception for him he wouldn’t be a citizen. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 2, 2019 8:23:51 GMT -5
I don’t think he’s actually a Japanese citizen unless they made some special exception for him as a celebrity as some countries have done. I’ve researched the citizenship/dual citizenship requirements of countries a lot and the last time I checked you can only gain Japanese citizenship by birth as they do not allow naturalization. I don’t know much about Japanese residency requirements other than that. He may be a permanent resident or on a work visa. I’m not sure about Kenny’s status but a foreigner can absolutely gain naturalized citizenship if they meet requirements. Said requirements: Also, here's Kenny talking about how he's now a Japanese citizen and where he considers home: |
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 2, 2019 8:56:27 GMT -5
Sources are claiming that Tony Khan is fronting up $100m for AEW, and that they're in talks with Turner Broadcasting to air on TBS or TNT.
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