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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 24, 2018 10:57:21 GMT -5
The first time around everyone thought dean was gonna turn, but we got swerved and Seth turned, but i figured there was gonna be a turn after the extreme rules ppv they had nothing left to do. When Ambrose turned yeah it was built up and everything but nobody would have expected them to do it that night
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Post by Tenshigure on Oct 24, 2018 10:59:05 GMT -5
I don't think the turn was the surprise, but the timing of it certainly was considering the WWE rarely are "on the ball" when it comes to such an action. The Dean turn this Monday was one of the rare moments where it made perfect sense and contributed to the overall feeling of the show that EVERYTHING on Raw is going to change with the power vacuum being left behind by Roman.
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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 24, 2018 11:10:01 GMT -5
Rollins because before the Shield broke up people thought he’d be stuck in the mid card.
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Post by ayumidah on Oct 24, 2018 11:36:39 GMT -5
The turn itself, Seth's. The actual coldness and brutality of it, Dean's.
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Post by Albino Heat on Oct 24, 2018 12:00:52 GMT -5
I think most were expecting Ambrose to break up the Shield, Roman to fight him and Seth to be the mid card face. Seth bring the traitor was a nice surprise.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 24, 2018 12:43:02 GMT -5
Seth was more shocking. People expected when the Shield was breaking up it was going to be Ambrose and Rollins was going to be stuck in the midcard as a high flying babyface
The only shocking thing about Ambrose turn was the timing of it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 12:46:24 GMT -5
Seth's.
People expected Ambrose was going to be the one that turned and for the secondary option people expected it to be Ambrose and Rollins together. Nobody expected it to be Rollins betraying the both of them let alone at the time it happened. They had just gotten over a potential breakup issue, they had just turned face, they had beaten Evolution, they were at the top of their game and they hadn't really had any real major storylines as singles guys besides that Punk stuff so yeah, it was wild.
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Post by sportatorium on Oct 24, 2018 12:50:09 GMT -5
Seth- There wasn’t any real foreshadowing and it came after the won their feud with Evolution. The timing of Dean’s with Roman’s announcement was shocking, but they’ve been planting the seeds for weeks and not really trying to make it a surprise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 13:44:06 GMT -5
As well done as it was, the only shocking thing about Dean's turn was the timing of it. I don't really remember people expecting Seth to be the one to turn when The Shield first broke up, so I'd have to say him.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 24, 2018 14:07:40 GMT -5
The turn itself, Seth's. The actual coldness and brutality of it, Dean's. Seth turn came out of nowhere ,Dean was already telegraphed and set up. But I dont think anyoen expected the Brutality that was Dean's turn.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 24, 2018 14:09:58 GMT -5
Seth's came out of nowhere. They did not plant seeds that Seth might turn on them. Dean's came after weeks of "Will he or won't he" angles.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Oct 25, 2018 6:33:50 GMT -5
Seth's wasn't expected.
Dean's was.
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Post by chronocross on Oct 25, 2018 6:53:29 GMT -5
As mentioned Seth's turn came out of nowhere, Evolution had lost two straight matches to the Shield and Batista walked out, there was nothing hinting that Seth would turn at all, unlike Dean's turn which had been hinted at for over a month now.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 25, 2018 12:32:27 GMT -5
Dean's definitely benefits from the timing with Roman's announcement. But it sounds like they've been treating it for a few weeks, and a lot of people were saying even before he returned, Dean would be turning heel. Seth wasn't even the one people were expecting to turn in the aftermath of their match with Evolution, everyone was expecting it to be either Dean or Roman, so having it be Seth, especially when they were at the height of their face turn, shook everyone up.
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