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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 23, 2018 23:33:23 GMT -5
...but which version do you find the MOST awkward? This could be because of performers, their delivery, etc. etc.
I'm going with the one with James Taylor for starters...forget the female vocalist. Just weird to hear him in that role.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 23, 2018 23:40:25 GMT -5
Uh, there's one where they're talking in between the singing part and the dude goes "Why don't you just go home then?!" and it almost sounds like they're turning it into a legit argument.
I don't know which one it is, and I'm not willing to go listen to a bunch of them to figure it out. F*** that song.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2018 1:00:02 GMT -5
I don't like the song, really, but it's moreso awkward the newer it is.
Originally, it's got the context of "we both would like me to stay, but socially, I'd need some really solid excuses so people don't call me a whore".
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Post by Shark on Nov 24, 2018 1:22:52 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong!
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 24, 2018 1:42:18 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Not as bad as comics that sexualize Santa:
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Post by Fade on Nov 24, 2018 1:56:37 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ.
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Post by Shark on Nov 24, 2018 2:35:56 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ. Depending on the singer, it can sound very nice. But there's one version I hear that is just sooooo creepy. The singer sings it in such a high register, it sounds like a 7 year old singing this seductive song to Santa. A lot of Christmas songs are weird. "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" is about a boy who sees his mom making out with Santa and thinks about the fight that would have broken out if his dad caught them. The Rudolph song lists the other reindeer saying that we know all of them, but asks if we remember the "most famous reindeer of all". Why would we know the other reindeer, but forget the most famous reindeer ever?
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Post by Kyn on Nov 24, 2018 2:50:13 GMT -5
There's a cover of Baby, It's Cold Outside on the Pitch Perfect 3 soundtrack done by two women, which is kind of my guilty pleasure Christmas song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 2:57:14 GMT -5
Eh it's far from the weirdest Christmas song implication. The context of its time frame makes it pretty clear it's not really about a woman who doesn't want to stay it's just the social contexts of the time that she can't.
I've never even heard a version that sounded particularly weird. Most of them come off sounding like the woman is just trying to be coy. I guess if there's one where the dude is more like Sean Connery's Bond then I'd have a problem with it. Otherwise it's just a shitty song.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 24, 2018 3:07:00 GMT -5
The Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews version is pretty awkward, since he - unfairly or not, your mileage may vary - comes across pretty rapey a lot of the time, and an ageing lothario singing about plying booze on a woman who's had much-publicised battles with alcoholism is not a good look.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2018 3:32:39 GMT -5
Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ. Depending on the singer, it can sound very nice. But there's one version I hear that is just sooooo creepy. The singer sings it in such a high register, it sounds like a 7 year old singing this seductive song to Santa. A lot of Christmas songs are weird. "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" is about a boy who sees his mom making out with Santa and thinks about the fight that would have broken out if his dad caught them. The Rudolph song lists the other reindeer saying that we know all of them, but asks if we remember the "most famous reindeer of all". Why would we know the other reindeer, but forget the most famous reindeer ever? With I Saw Mommy, I think the idea is that the kid saw his mom, well, kiss "Santa", but it's just their dad playing the part and setting out presents. Does make it sound like the parents are into roleplay, but whatever makes their marriage work. I am not really sure if that's what they're going for with "Santa Baby", singing to their lover with the pretense that they're "Santa", but maybe some women would just be down to f*** Santa. I've been flirted with considerably more while bearded than without one, so some women just dig beards.
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Post by Shark on Nov 24, 2018 4:13:10 GMT -5
Depending on the singer, it can sound very nice. But there's one version I hear that is just sooooo creepy. The singer sings it in such a high register, it sounds like a 7 year old singing this seductive song to Santa. A lot of Christmas songs are weird. "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" is about a boy who sees his mom making out with Santa and thinks about the fight that would have broken out if his dad caught them. The Rudolph song lists the other reindeer saying that we know all of them, but asks if we remember the "most famous reindeer of all". Why would we know the other reindeer, but forget the most famous reindeer ever? With I Saw Mommy, I think the idea is that the kid saw his mom, well, kiss "Santa", but it's just their dad playing the part and setting out presents. Does make it sound like the parents are into roleplay, but whatever makes their marriage work. I am not really sure if that's what they're going for with "Santa Baby", singing to their lover with the pretense that they're "Santa", but maybe some women would just be down to f*** Santa. I've been flirted with considerably more while bearded than without one, so some women just dig beards. Oh yeah, I know that's what the song is about, but it still leaves the kid with the impression his mom is cheating on his father.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 24, 2018 6:41:38 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ. My problem with it is that its the laziest, most cliched song that a female artist can put on their Christmas album.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 24, 2018 6:54:53 GMT -5
With I Saw Mommy, I think the idea is that the kid saw his mom, well, kiss "Santa", but it's just their dad playing the part and setting out presents. Does make it sound like the parents are into roleplay, but whatever makes their marriage work. I am not really sure if that's what they're going for with "Santa Baby", singing to their lover with the pretense that they're "Santa", but maybe some women would just be down to f*** Santa. I've been flirted with considerably more while bearded than without one, so some women just dig beards. Oh yeah, I know that's what the song is about, but it still leaves the kid with the impression his mom is cheating on his father. The Jackson 5 version is cringeworthy given what we know about Joseph Jackson
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Post by ToyfareMark on Nov 24, 2018 7:19:36 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ. It's a joke, the song is basically a joke.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 24, 2018 8:26:06 GMT -5
Uh, there's one where they're talking in between the singing part and the dude goes "Why don't you just go home then?!" and it almost sounds like they're turning it into a legit argument That sounds awful and misses the entire point of the song completely. Its made pretty clear in the song the woman actually wants to stay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 8:48:37 GMT -5
It's not as bad to me as the ones that are more overtly sexual in tone about Santa. Like Santa Baby is awful. It literally ends with the singer saying she wants Santa to come down her chimney. Christmas in the Sand is worse thanks to the lyric, "He said 'You look naughty, but I'm sure you're nice". Songs that sexualize Santa are just wrong! Not as bad as comics that sexualize Santa: His gut looks like a giant tit
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2018 9:09:05 GMT -5
Not as bad as comics that sexualize Santa: His gut looks like a giant tit I mean, it does jiggle like a bowl full of jelly, so...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 9:10:47 GMT -5
Depending on the singer, it can sound very nice. But there's one version I hear that is just sooooo creepy. The singer sings it in such a high register, it sounds like a 7 year old singing this seductive song to Santa. A lot of Christmas songs are weird. "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" is about a boy who sees his mom making out with Santa and thinks about the fight that would have broken out if his dad caught them. The Rudolph song lists the other reindeer saying that we know all of them, but asks if we remember the "most famous reindeer of all". Why would we know the other reindeer, but forget the most famous reindeer ever? I've been flirted with considerably more while bearded than without one, so some women just dig beards.
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Post by Fade on Nov 24, 2018 10:35:52 GMT -5
Mother f***ing this! What the f*** is with "Santa Baby"?! Christ. It's a joke, the song is basically a joke. I know but hearing it as a kid, in school no less, and the girl is DTF Santa, it's a little startling.
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