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Post by The Ichi on Jan 6, 2019 15:20:35 GMT -5
Some of what he said is true, particularly regarding the lack of defined faces and heels. The Jim Neidhart stuff was right on the money, too. The rest though, yikes.
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Post by schizo on Jan 6, 2019 15:35:24 GMT -5
Some of what he said is true, particularly regarding the lack of defined faces and heels. That and I also agree with him about Daniel Bryan's heel turn. Just because he's good at it doesn't mean it's a good idea, particularly when there is that lack of defined, clear-cut faces. This mindset is weird. Because he's good at it he shouldn't do it?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 6, 2019 15:47:22 GMT -5
That and I also agree with him about Daniel Bryan's heel turn. Just because he's good at it doesn't mean it's a good idea, particularly when there is that lack of defined, clear-cut faces. This mindset is weird. Because he's good at it he shouldn't do it? No, the argument is he shouldn't do it because there's no babyfaces to step up to his level to take his place.
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Post by schizo on Jan 6, 2019 15:52:33 GMT -5
This mindset is weird. Because he's good at it he shouldn't do it? No, the argument is he shouldn't do it because there's no babyfaces to step up to his level to take his place. Styles? Ali?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 6, 2019 15:54:00 GMT -5
No, the argument is he shouldn't do it because there's no babyfaces to step up to his level to take his place. Styles? Ali? The Styles feud hasn't got that long left, and as good as Ali is, he's not rocketing to main event status any time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 15:54:00 GMT -5
No, the argument is he shouldn't do it because there's no babyfaces to step up to his level to take his place. Styles? Ali? The cupboard's a little bare right now, but there are plenty of future babyface challengers for Bryan. They'd just have to move some guys around. They could move Balor to SD, turn Owens face and move him or call up someone like Aleister Black.
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Post by Shark on Jan 6, 2019 16:18:06 GMT -5
Bryan turning also opens up the door for someone else to step up. That's actually very good. He said the same thing about Becky. He said she should drop The Man gimmick and go back to the white meat babyface. Being a white meat babyface wasn't doing anything for Becky. She gets an attitude change and now she's the biggest thing in WWE. It would be really stupid to have her stop doing what got her over and revert her back to a gimmick that was no longer working.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 6, 2019 16:46:25 GMT -5
Bryan turning also opens up the door for someone else to step up. That's actually very good. He said the same thing about Becky. He said she should drop The Man gimmick and go back to the white meat babyface. Being a white meat babyface wasn't doing anything for Becky. She gets an attitude change and now she's the biggest thing in WWE. It would be really stupid to have her stop doing what got her over and revert her back to a gimmick that was no longer working. Don't get me wrong I like her new persona better but I wouldn't say her old one wasn't working. They just simply weren't pushing her or doing anything with it. Throughout her whole face run until they turned her at Summerslam, she always consistently got good reactions despite not having the booking backing her up. It wasn't a case like Bayley where her popularity clearly started to wain when they started booking her poorly.
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Post by Shark on Jan 6, 2019 17:09:19 GMT -5
Bryan turning also opens up the door for someone else to step up. That's actually very good. He said the same thing about Becky. He said she should drop The Man gimmick and go back to the white meat babyface. Being a white meat babyface wasn't doing anything for Becky. She gets an attitude change and now she's the biggest thing in WWE. It would be really stupid to have her stop doing what got her over and revert her back to a gimmick that was no longer working. Don't get me wrong I like her new persona better but I wouldn't say her old one wasn't working. They just simply weren't pushing her or doing anything with it. Throughout her whole face run until they turned her at Summerslam, she always consistently got good reactions despite not having the booking backing her up. It wasn't a case like Bayley where her popularity clearly started to wain when they started booking her poorly. I wasn't saying she wasn't still over or wasn't popular. That gimmick just had a ceiling.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jan 6, 2019 19:58:05 GMT -5
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 7, 2019 13:06:56 GMT -5
He's also right about tag teams not having a unified identity.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2019 17:10:20 GMT -5
He's also right about tag teams not having a unified identity. Looking at the roster, all but two of the tag teams do actually have a uniform look. Gallows/Anderson and Slater/Rhyno are the only teams that don't. So while I agree with the point he's making, it's barely applicable to WWE.
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Post by Shark on Jan 7, 2019 17:26:56 GMT -5
He's also right about tag teams not having a unified identity. Looking at the roster, all but two of the tag teams do actually have a uniform look. Gallows/Anderson and Slater/Rhyno are the only teams that don't. So while I agree with the point he's making, it's barely applicable to WWE. Gallows and Anderson at least have enough similarities in their looks that you can tell they're a team.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 8, 2019 18:41:47 GMT -5
Doesn't he have any nonsensical lawsuits to join somewhere?
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