Explain the Bealuh pregnancy angle to me...

[bmfjules]

I'm watching ECW 1996 which opens with the big reveal that Beulah McGillicutty is pregnant and the baby is Tommy Dreamer's and not Ravens or Stevie Richards.

Later that year Shane Douglas reveals that Beulah was not pregnant but was having a lesbian affair with Kimona the entire time. Dreamer makes out with them both and the Raven/Dreamer feud continues on.

Okay.

So, what was the point of the original pregnancy claim? How is Bealuh not the heel here? I kind of feel like this angle sort of outsmarted itself unless I'm missing something.

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She's not the heel because that audience liked the lesbian affair angle.

[Deleted]

Beulah made the announcement knowing it would send Raven into a rage, but also knowing Tommy would be there to protect her; to take her away from his coven.

With Beulah no longer with him, Raven's world was shaken. The one thing he could count on, the one thing that brought a sense of inner peace was no longer there. (If you wanna think about how the feud started as a summer camp thing "from years before".)

To me, this was less about Beulah faking a pregnancy. It's about the catalyst that resulted in Raven's further downward spiral into depravity.

[Tiger Millionaire]

It was the late 90s, if things didn't make sense, you just threw some lesbians in there.

[EvenBaldobombHasAJob]

"Mommy, I'm the edgiest of the edgelords!"

[MrElijah]

If anything, it shows how low Shane would reach to win the World Title.

[James Fabiano]

I think there was a throwaway line during a recap of the event it happened in, House Party '96. Joey says words to the effect of, "Beulah found a way out of Raven's nest!" So it was a lie.

If I can add a little booking of my own, yes, they could have mentioned that Shane Douglas was the first one, somehow, to find out about the so-called pregnancy, and told Tommy. That way it could indeed be implied that he started the whole lie to not only shake up Dreamer, but make his path to the world title easier by eliminating Raven too. Little did he know it could potentially be easier than he thought, as Raven would win the world title shortly after. The monkey wrench was when it didn't upset Tommy. Perhaps as much as he disliked him, Raven found humor somehow in Shane's plan failing, and that well, Tommy wasn't "man enough" to impregnate his ex. Thus, Raven managed to retain against Shane, who was swept away in a feud for the TV title, where his heel self resurfaced. Raven would then re-power himself using Sandman's family. But that's another story for another day.

Yes the moment itself was memorable, but a bit dumb when you consider there was a show a week earlier where Tommy piledrove Beulah yet again. (now imagine if they DID go with the Shane angle I suggested...and Tommy just didn't know. A few possibilities with that one...)

[Defrebel - White Pony]

She was pregnant with Michael, leave her alone.

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Jan 2, 2019 16:29:13 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

I think there was a throwaway line during a recap of the event it happened in, House Party '96. Joey says words to the effect of, "Beulah found a way out of Raven's nest!" So it was a lie.

If I can add a little booking of my own, yes, they could have mentioned that Shane Douglas was the first one, somehow, to find out about the so-called pregnancy, and told Tommy. That way it could indeed be implied that he started the whole lie to not only shake up Dreamer, but make his path to the world title easier by eliminating Raven too. Little did he know it could potentially be easier than he thought, as Raven would win the world title shortly after. The monkey wrench was when it didn't upset Tommy. Perhaps as much as he disliked him, Raven found humor somehow in Shane's plan failing, and that well, Tommy wasn't "man enough" to impregnate his ex. Thus, Raven managed to retain against Shane, who was swept away in a feud for the TV title, where his heel self resurfaced. Raven would then re-power himself using Sandman's family. But that's another story for another day.

Yes the moment itself was memorable, but a bit dumb when you consider there was a show a week earlier where Tommy piledrove Beulah yet again. (now imagine if they DID go with the Shane angle I suggested...and Tommy just didn't know. A few possibilities with that one...)

Beulah blinded him with hair spray causing him to lose the match before he piledrove her.

Yeah, it's goofy as heck.

[James Fabiano]

Jan 2, 2019 17:03:07 GMT -5 @sandman said:

Jan 2, 2019 16:29:13 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

I think there was a throwaway line during a recap of the event it happened in, House Party '96. Joey says words to the effect of, "Beulah found a way out of Raven's nest!" So it was a lie.

If I can add a little booking of my own, yes, they could have mentioned that Shane Douglas was the first one, somehow, to find out about the so-called pregnancy, and told Tommy. That way it could indeed be implied that he started the whole lie to not only shake up Dreamer, but make his path to the world title easier by eliminating Raven too. Little did he know it could potentially be easier than he thought, as Raven would win the world title shortly after. The monkey wrench was when it didn't upset Tommy. Perhaps as much as he disliked him, Raven found humor somehow in Shane's plan failing, and that well, Tommy wasn't "man enough" to impregnate his ex. Thus, Raven managed to retain against Shane, who was swept away in a feud for the TV title, where his heel self resurfaced. Raven would then re-power himself using Sandman's family. But that's another story for another day.

Yes the moment itself was memorable, but a bit dumb when you consider there was a show a week earlier where Tommy piledrove Beulah yet again. (now imagine if they DID go with the Shane angle I suggested...and Tommy just didn't know. A few possibilities with that one...)

Beulah blinded him with hair spray causing him to lose the match before he piledrove her.

Yeah, it's goofy as heck.

First, two different matches. Second, that was like the first time he did it, no? Before he made it a habit throughout 1995.

[Aceorton]

Jan 1, 2019 8:06:02 GMT -5 @sandman said:

(If you wanna think about how the feud started as a summer camp thing "from years before".)

I forgot about the insane backstory there. Two rival boys grow up to become violent professional wrestlers (one of them a cult leader) and resume their feud. For all that I loved about ECW, the creative storytelling was often some of the worst.

It wasn't realistic like in the WWF, where a child set a fire in a funeral home that killed his parents and grew up to become a 6-10 professional wrestler who controls the lights and shoots lightning, alternately feuding and teaming with his deformed, masked half-brother who's also a 6-10 professional wrestler and sets off flaming explosions.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

That was the moment the Raven-Dreamer feud jumped the shark.

It also made Douglas look bad and he lingered until forming the triple threat.

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Jan 3, 2019 10:06:45 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

Jan 2, 2019 17:03:07 GMT -5 @sandman said:

Beulah blinded him with hair spray causing him to lose the match before he piledrove her.

Yeah, it's goofy as heck.

First, two different matches. Second, that was like the first time he did it, no? Before he made it a habit throughout 1995.

My bad, I misread the results.